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Ardennes Classics Discussion
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| rodda |
Posted on 29-08-2009 02:51
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 Ricco earning his massive salary there!
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| SotD |
Posted on 29-08-2009 07:50
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5th for Sammy is decent... I really need some hilly helpers it seems. My 2nd best riders are out of the top 50. Not that they should do any better, but I guess I should've kept Ulissi for some extra points in these races... |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-08-2009 11:03
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Considering the fact that my team absolutely sucks in hilly races, coming in third in the team ranking of Liege - Bastogne - Liege is excellent. Pozzovivo did much better than expected. |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 29-08-2009 11:55
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Wow, Valverde has been awful this year.
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| mattiasgt |
Posted on 29-08-2009 12:05
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mb2612 wrote:
Wow, Valverde has been awful this year.
Maybe he would needed a great helper to protect him.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 29-08-2009 12:29
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1st, 2nd and 1st for Schleck .. cant really complain 
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Posted on 29-08-2009 12:33
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Ind. Rankings
With 627pts in 3 races, Frank Schleck has built on his previous tally from Paris-Nice and Vuelta al Pais Vasco to storm into the lead. Boonen only drops to 2nd though with Samuel Sanchez unable to pass him. Ignoring, Pais Vasco, Filippo Pozzato has scored in the last 7 races and is now 5th, just ahead of Luis Leon Sanchez who has scored in the 5 last non-cobbled races. With 404 and 422 pts respectively, Hagen and Ricco were the next best Ardennes scorers after Schleck, and that see them rise up to 7th and 14th
1 Frank Schleck LUX Accumalux-Huez 1189
2 Tom Boonen BEL Warner Brothers 1048
3 Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez ESP Festina - Seiko 1021
4 Marcus Burghardt GER Wikipedia 867
5 Filippo Pozzato ITA Crédit Lyonnais 827
6 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil ESP Rabobank 735
7 Edvald Boasson Hagen NOR Team B&O 733
8 Robert Gesink NED Rabobank 721
9 Alessandro Ballan ITA SIC Radical - Timberland 715
10 Daniele Bennati ITA La Gazzetta dello Sport 684
11 David Zabriskie USA Wikipedia 662
12 Fabian Cancellara SWI Unicef RT 649
13 Gert Steegmans BEL Rabobank 612
14 Riccardo Ricco ITA White Bear - Wild Horse 567
15 Jérôme Baugnies BEL Lipton Ice Tea 472
16 Nick Nuyens BEL Domina Vacanze 443
17 Sylvain Chavanel FRA British Airways - Martini 441
18 Danilo Di Luca ITA La Gazzetta dello Sport 432
19 Lars Boom NED Virgin Media - Caisse d'Epargne 432
20 Vincenzo Nibali ITA Domina Vacanze 421
21 Diego Ulissi ITA Philips - Hummel 410
22 Przemyslaw Niemiec POL Lipton Ice Tea 409
23 Lars Croket BEL White Bear - Wild Horse 395
24 Jaroslav Popovych UKR Unicef RT 382
25 Andrey Kashechkin KAZ Lipton Ice Tea 367
26 Frederik Nolf BEL Festina - Seiko 352
27 Thor Hushovd NOR Festina - Seiko 322
28 Maxime Vantomme BEL Philips - Hummel 317
29 Maxime Monfort BEL White Bear - Wild Horse 310
30 Joaquin Rodriguez Oliver ESP Virgin Media - Caisse d'Epargne 307
31 Juan-Antonio Flecha ESP Warner Brothers 304
32 Carlos Barredo ESP Warner Brothers 303
33 Vladimir Gusev RUS Philips - Hummel 294
34 Carlos Castaño ESP Festina - Seiko 285
35 Jerome Coppel FRA Wikipedia 271
36 Jonathan Bellis GBR British Airways - Martini 259
37 Damiano Cunego ITA La Gazzetta dello Sport 243
38 Michael Rogers AUS La Gazzetta dello Sport 218
39 Nikolas Maes BEL Wikipedia 211
40 Aleksandr Serebriakov RUS Virgin Media - Caisse d'Epargne 208
41 Vladimir Karpets RUS American Suzuki 207
42 Jan Bakelants BEL Rabobank 197
43 Rubén Plaza ESP Virgin Media - Caisse d'Epargne 197
44 Thomas Lövkvist SWD Eurosport 197
45 Taylor Phinney USA Virgin Media - Caisse d'Epargne 195
46 Matej Mugerli SLO La Gazzetta dello Sport 189
47 Vitor Rodrigues POR Lipton Ice Tea 176
48 Domenico Pozzovivo ITA Philips - Hummel 175
49 Evert Verbist BEL Domina Vacanze 167
50 Francisco Perez Sanchez ESP Lipton Ice Tea 167
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 29-08-2009 12:44
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Team Rankings
Rabobank are continuing to lead, pulling away from Wikipedia and only losing 41 pts to Festina in the Ardennes. With 519 pts, La Gazetta were the 4th best team in the Ardennes and are back up to 4th, closing in on their rivals ahead of their main season goal the Giro. Thanks to Schleck, Accumalux were the highest scoring team over these 3 races with a whopping 762 points gathered - and this sees them rocket up to 8th from 15th. White Bear - Wild Horse were also on the up, from 16th to 10th, as they gathered 633 pts, putting just ahead of the 3rd best team, B&O, who got 555.
Credit Lyonnais, Domina Vacanze and Unicef are the teams dropping down a little - and it couldve been worse for Unicef if not for Popovych in Liege. SIC Radical are starting to pull out a gap away from relegation in 15th to leave American Suzuki and British Airways scrapping for the 2nd relegation spot and Eurosport continuing to try to catch up - those 3 teams gained 127, 123 and 128 pts respectively, barely more than the minimum score of 120. Although with only 7 riders in Liege, the minimum possible score for now 5th placed Warner Brothers was 115 - and thats what they got.
1 Rabobank 3202
2 Wikipedia 2819
3 Festina - Seiko 2755
4 La Gazzetta dello Sport 2550
5 Warner Brothers 2473
6 Lipton Ice Tea 2424
7 Virgin Media - Caisse d'Epargne 2181
8 Accumalux-Huez 2123
9 Philips - Hummel 1985
10 White Bear - Wild Horse 1952
11 Team B&O 1927
12 Crédit Lyonnais 1924
13 Domina Vacanze 1877
14 Unicef RT 1850
15 SIC Radical - Timberland 1718
16 American Suzuki 1489
17 British Airways - Martini 1407
18 Eurosport 1062
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 29-08-2009 12:54
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Things not looking good for Eurosport. No riders to challenge in the hills or on the cobbles - plenty of decent stage racers, so hopefully we'll start to catch up a little.
Aother great result for Piti at LBL.  |
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| SotD |
Posted on 29-08-2009 17:07
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Hmm not entirely happy about the 3 hilly classics. 8th, 5th and 7th. I really hoped to get atleast one top 3 result, but I think I have to give the blame to myself here, for not having a decent hilly helper for Sammy. I should've put in Castaño or so to support him, and as Carlos has been used for other races in which he is not my no. 1 captain it has to be called bad management.
I'll know that for next year.
Atleast we are still 3rd in both ranks, with a decent shot at taking back on Wikipedia, if we should end up beating Trofimov. Rabobank is easing away while La Gazzetta will overtake us by a huge margin after the Giro. Warner Brothers will continue to lose ground now, and we can only hope for Lipton to do so aswell...
As Samuel Sánchez is riding, and most probably will end in top 20 GC there's a good shot chance that he could get into 2nd after this race, but 1st will be impossible I'm afraid. Would be fun to lead at some point |
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| dave92 |
Posted on 29-08-2009 17:50
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wow, really didnt expect to hold on to second, after Romandie the Giro will see me plummet, but there is a nice run of races after that
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| niconico |
Posted on 29-08-2009 19:48
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Great Ardennes debut for Hagen, unfortunately he couldn't match Schleck.
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| jolly_antunes |
Posted on 30-08-2009 11:02
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Can't say i'm disapointed, because i just don't have a team for this type of races.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 30-08-2009 11:07
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Out of interest, what ratio of hills vs. mountains are you using for the Ardennes?
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 30-08-2009 11:08
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Im fairly sure the setting in game for them is 0.15
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 30-08-2009 15:10
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Im fairly sure the setting in game for them is 0.15
That explains alot, I had assumed it was 0.5 and was hence quite confused.
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