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rodda
suck balls Boonen.
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JDC
Apparently Boonen tested 3 times positive. The first time was in November 2007. However, this first test was never reported, since UCI didn't think they were obliged to report this to the police.

Meanwhile Boonen has given a reaction to the news. He says that he doesn't have a drug problem, but rather an alcohol problem. He states that he was so drunk then, that it felt as if someone else inside his head had done it. He has also said he will try to find professional help.
 
alexkr00
yeah he said that his problem is with the alcohol. That's were he really needs help.
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Macquet
In regards to the poll on the home page, I think that Quickstep should suspend Boonen and demand he seek treatment, as far as the UCI is concerned, if there is a "ban" then of course he should be suspended, but while it is illegal, this particular substance may or may not be banned, as strange as that may be. I'm not sure what substances are on the UCI's banned list, I would find it hard to imagine that cocaine is not.
 
JDC
Cocaine is only illegal for the UCI when you are caught during competition, not outside competition. In Boonen's case he just broke the law. (which is also bad of course)
 
Macquet
So by law he should not be suspended by the UCI, Quickstep has every right to suspend him for failure to uphold his contract, maintain a standard of behavior, etc.

 
doddy13
Macquet wrote:
So by law he should not be suspended by the UCI, Quickstep has every right to suspend him for failure to uphold his contract, maintain a standard of behavior, etc.



In cycling rules, he's done nothing wrong. What the team can do doesn't matter, they can do what they like too.

In the law, he should probally get jail time, but won't.
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doddy13
KenL wrote:
Boonen faces a one- to six-month suspension from the International Cycling Union (UCI) for damaging the sport's reputation. The cycling union can't act against him on anti-doping grounds, but may still take action on sporting grounds.

But he's not ruined the image of the sport, just himself.

Surely we should tag on 6 months on to the dopers suspension for damaging the sports image.
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doddy13
Cocaine is treated as performance enhancing if taking in competition. Boonen is positive, out of competition.

It would probally hurt boonen more if he was banned during spring classics season.
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Juan
KenL wrote:
True, doddy...on all accounts...but maybe the message would get to Boonen a little better if he knew the penalty was 2 years for in-and-out of competition testing as it is with Cera and such...

Yes, a Spring-Classics suspension would hurt Boonen deeply...but a suspension during the Grand Tours would hurt the Quickstep sponsors the most with their STAR missing. In the end it is about image to the Sponsors and when you are denied the lime-light for a silly action by a rider you may begin to question your sponsorship decisions. Hopefully, Pineau and Syl. Chavanel can provide enough lime-light through break-aways and possible stage wins to keep sponsors happy.

Devolder ?
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issoisso
KenL wrote:
Stijn Devolder is going to be a great GC contender eventually....


He's 30 years old. He's never going to be a GC contender Frown
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Xavier
I think Devolder will do ok, but not fight for victory obviously
TV news just reported that Boonen wont get sacked Sad but the meeting is still going
they say he will be fined heavily, and will have to supply DNA samples on a regular base to QS to prove that hes cocaine-free, and will also have to go to a psychologist on a regulare base
pff, cant believe he will get off that easily
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JDC
@ KenL: Van Den Broeck, Monfort, Seeldraeyers, or maybe even De Greef.
 
issoisso
KenL wrote:
Why not?... Vande velde...Leipheimer were always the brides-maids with respective teams until now that they are in their 30's. They are considered threats for GC's more now than ever. (Vande Velde out of Giro).


Vande Velde was a tremendous prospect who had the white jersey in the Tour de France for a few stages. Then he had many injuries of which he only completely recovered in 2008, and despite all the injuries still managed to place very well in stage races while working for others.

His talent was never in doubt.

Leipheimer was 3rd in the Vuelta as a neo-pro.

KenL wrote:
Devolder is a QS Captain and it is time to shine or become a domestique for a new Captain. Who is Belgiums next big GC man going to be...Roelandts?


"Belgium" is irrelevant. Devolder hasn't come anywhere close to doing what either Leipheimer or Vande Velde had done at his age in Grand Tours.


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@ KenL: Van Den Broeck, Monfort, Seeldraeyers, or maybe even De Greef.


Van Den Broeck is unlikely. Monfort, no chance. Seeldraeyers or De Greef, maybe. This giro is critical to see what they might be able to do one day.
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issoisso
It's not looking good for QuickStep in terms of future: their youth teams aren't what they used to be, and their crown jewel Bakelandts was "robbed" by Lotto.
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ruben
issoisso wrote:
It's not looking good for QuickStep in terms of future: their youth teams aren't what they used to be, and their crown jewel Bakelandts was "robbed" by Lotto.

Bakelandts is riding for Topsport Vlaanderen...not Lotto

And Quick Step 'stole' Cornu from Lotto btw.
 
issoisso
Ruben wrote:
issoisso wrote:
It's not looking good for QuickStep in terms of future: their youth teams aren't what they used to be, and their crown jewel Bakelandts was "robbed" by Lotto.

Bakelandts is riding for Topsport Vlaanderen...not Lotto

And Quick Step 'stole' Cornu from Lotto btw.


Bakelandts has a contract with Lotto and is on loan at Topsport for 12 months.

As a sort of revenge, QuickStep "stole back" Cornu, and more importantly, Devenyns.
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Jaap90
Quick Step give Boonen only a financial fine.
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issoisso
Of course. They'll never get rid of the chicken that lays the golden eggs.

Get the man some help.
 
stuartmcstuart
KenL wrote:
I always thought QS was the more savy of the Belgium squads but if they keep allowing such jewels as Bakelandts to be robbed then maybe it is Lotto who is the more savy?

Do you think QS has made a critical error in year after year putting all their eggs in the Tom Boonen basket without trying to develope a true GCer?


But for a Belgian team, the biggest Belgian rider who performs well during classics season is worth a hell of a lot. Obviously a GC rider may provide more international exposure, but the importance of that (currently) week in April to QS is tantamount to everything else.
 
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