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| JDC |
Posted on 03-05-2009 22:59
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What the hell, a budget of 1,373,696,896$. I didn't know the US dollar was devaluated that much. 
And what's with those rider stats? It's like everyone is a superman. Even old Voigt is still 81 AVG. |
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| Macquet |
Posted on 04-05-2009 00:22
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Yes, but everyone's stats are equally inflated so the only thing that makes this remarkable is the modifications made to the budget. |
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Posted on 04-05-2009 07:20
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JDC wrote:
What the hell, a budget of 1,373,696,896$. I didn't know the US dollar was devaluated that much.
And what's with those rider stats? It's like everyone is a superman. Even old Voigt is still 81 AVG.
not only Voigt. Sastre, Leipheimer and even Basso are still one of the bests. Gesink is nowhere but Andy is the best 
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| t-baum |
Posted on 04-05-2009 16:03
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TDU Stage 2
Kind of a hill stage today, should be good for EBH and thor.
A break of 7 went up the road.
This is it for Molist though, he simply isn't strong enough to stay with the pack.
The break had a falf minute going over the second to last climb, and Nuyens attacks!
But he's caught and Edvald is there starting the sprint.
Edvald comes up short though and he ends up second.
Rank Name Team Time
1 Vincent Jérôme Bbox Bouygues Télécom 3h29'38
2 Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
3 Sep Vanmarcke Team Saxo Bank s.t.
4 Sören Hofmann Team Milram s.t.
5 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream s.t.
6 Janek Tombak Lampre - N.G.C s.t.
7 Gert Steegmans Liquigas s.t.
8 Thor Hushovd Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
9 José JoaquÃn Rojas Amore & Vita - McDonald's s.t.
10 Murilo Fischer AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
GC
Rank Name Team Time
1 Vincent Jérôme Bbox Bouygues Télécom 6h38'54
2 Matteo Carrara Astana Cycling Team s.t.
3 Pedro Merino Euskaltel - Euskadi + 1
4 Ilias Periklis Amore & Vita - McDonald's s.t.
5 Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Columbia - High Road + 2
6 Wesley Sulzberger Garmin - Slipstream s.t.
7 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream + 4
8 Sep Vanmarcke Team Saxo Bank s.t.
9 Luciano Pagliarini Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
10 Bruno Lima Lampre - N.G.C + 5
KOM
Rank Name Team Mountain General
1 Pedro Merino Euskaltel - Euskadi 0 4
2 Richard England Amore & Vita - McDonald's 4 4
3 Daniel McConnell Adria Mobil 2 2
4 Benjamin Brooks Team AIS 0 2
5 Dominik Roels Team Milram 0 1
6 Sebastian Balck Team Saxo Bank 1 1
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Posted on 04-05-2009 17:56
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TDU Stage 3
A break of 7 eventually went up the road.
But they are caught and we are in perfect position as we start the last few KM.
Last KM, here comes Thor!
But he blows it in the last few meteres. A photo finish between Napolitono and Ongarato.
Stage
Rank Name Team Time
1 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream 3h04'05
2 Alberto Ongarato LPR Brakes Farnese Vini s.t.
3 Guennadi Mikhailov Team Katusha s.t.
4 Sébastien Chavanel Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
5 Thor Hushovd Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
6 Matteo Carrara Astana Cycling Team s.t.
7 Dominique Rollin Team Milram s.t.
8 Murilo Fischer AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
9 Wim Stroetinga Team Milram s.t.
10 Kurt Hovelynck Liquigas s.t.
11 Graeme Brown Rabobank s.t.
12 Matthew Goss Team Saxo Bank s.t.
13 Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
14 Janek Tombak Lampre - N.G.C s.t.
15 Leif Hoste Lampre - N.G.C s.t.
16 Francesco Chicchi Team Katusha s.t.
17 Denis Galimzyanov Team Katusha s.t.
18 Robert Wagner Team Milram s.t.
19 Vincent Jérôme Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
20 Emanuelle Bindi Lampre - N.G.C s.t.
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Rank Name Team Time
1 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream 9h42'57
2 Matteo Carrara Astana Cycling Team + 2
3 Vincent Jérôme Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
4 Ilias Periklis Amore & Vita - McDonald's + 3
5 Pedro Merino Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
6 Alberto Ongarato LPR Brakes Farnese Vini + 4
7 Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
8 Wesley Sulzberger Garmin - Slipstream s.t.
9 Graziano Gasparre Amore & Vita - McDonald's s.t.
10 Pedro Horrillo Liquigas + 5
11 Guennadi Mikhailov Team Katusha + 6
12 Luciano Pagliarini Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
13 Sep Vanmarcke Team Saxo Bank s.t.
14 Rafal Ratajczyk Lampre - N.G.C s.t.
15 Renaud Dion Adria Mobil s.t.
16 Leigh Howard Drapac Porsche Cycling s.t.
17 Bruno Lima Lampre - N.G.C + 7
18 Nazareno Guido LPR Brakes Farnese Vini s.t.
19 Thor Hushovd Team Columbia - High Road + 8
20 Sébastien Chavanel Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
Points
Rank Name Team Points
1 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream 25
2 Guennadi Mikhailov Team Katusha 20
3 Thor Hushovd Team Columbia - High Road 16
4 Matteo Carrara Astana Cycling Team 15
5 Murilo Fischer AG2R La Mondiale 13
6 Sébastien Chavanel Bbox Bouygues Télécom 18
7 Janek Tombak Lampre - N.G.C 7
8 Matthew Goss Team Saxo Bank 9
9 Alberto Ongarato LPR Brakes Farnese Vini 22
10 Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Columbia - High Road 8
KOM
Rank Name Team Mountain General
1 Pedro Merino Euskaltel - Euskadi 0 4
2 Richard England Amore & Vita - McDonald's 0 4
3 Luke Davison Team AIS 4 4
4 Daniel McConnell Adria Mobil 0 2
5 Benjamin Brooks Team AIS 0 2
6 Pedro Horrillo Liquigas 2 2
7 Dominik Roels Team Milram 0 1
8 Sebastian Balck Team Saxo Bank 0 1
9 Renaud Dion Adria Mobil 1 1
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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Posted on 04-05-2009 20:20
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TDU Stage 4
Break goes breaks caught, time to sprint!
Nuyens is leading EBH and Thor as we start the sprint
Last KM now, it looks like there's no chance for us to lose!
Our first win of the year!
And Edvald moves into the leaders jersey!
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Rank Name Team Time
1 Thor Hushovd Team Columbia - High Road 3h03'35
2 Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
3 Murilo Fischer AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
4 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream s.t.
5 Matteo Carrara Astana Cycling Team s.t.
6 Gert Steegmans Liquigas s.t.
7 Sébastien Chavanel Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
8 Matthew Goss Team Saxo Bank s.t.
9 René Mandri AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
10 Guennadi Mikhailov Team Katusha s.t.
11 Daniele Bennati Liquigas s.t.
12 Kurt Hovelynck Liquigas s.t.
13 Nick Nuyens Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
14 Dominique Rollin Team Milram s.t.
15 Sep Vanmarcke Team Saxo Bank s.t.
16 Jonathan Bellis Team Saxo Bank s.t.
17 Janek Tombak Lampre - N.G.C s.t.
18 Davide Viganò Fuji - Servetto s.t.
19 Leif Hoste Lampre - N.G.C s.t.
20 Wim Stroetinga Team Milram s.t.
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Rank Name Team Time
1 Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Columbia - High Road 12h46'32
2 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream s.t.
3 Thor Hushovd Team Columbia - High Road + 2
4 Matteo Carrara Astana Cycling Team s.t.
5 Vincent Jérôme Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
6 Pedro Merino Euskaltel - Euskadi + 3
7 Ilias Periklis Amore & Vita - McDonald's s.t.
8 Wesley Sulzberger Garmin - Slipstream + 4
9 Alberto Ongarato LPR Brakes Farnese Vini s.t.
10 Graziano Gasparre Amore & Vita - McDonald's s.t.
11 Pedro Horrillo Liquigas + 5
12 Pablo Urtasun Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
13 Nazareno Guido LPR Brakes Farnese Vini s.t.
14 Murilo Fischer AG2R La Mondiale + 6
15 Guennadi Mikhailov Team Katusha s.t.
16 Sep Vanmarcke Team Saxo Bank s.t.
17 Rafal Ratajczyk Lampre - N.G.C s.t.
18 Luciano Pagliarini Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
19 Leigh Howard Drapac Porsche Cycling s.t.
20 Renaud Dion Adria Mobil s.t.
Points
Rank Name Team Points General
1 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream 18 79
2 Thor Hushovd Team Columbia - High Road 25 66
3 Matteo Carrara Astana Cycling Team 16 56
4 Murilo Fischer AG2R La Mondiale 20 55
5 Guennadi Mikhailov Team Katusha 11 54
6 Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Columbia - High Road 22 52
7 Sébastien Chavanel Bbox Bouygues Télécom 14 47
8 Matthew Goss Team Saxo Bank 13 45
9 Gert Steegmans Liquigas 15 37
10 Janek Tombak Lampre - N.G.C 4 36
11 Dominique Rollin Team Milram 7 36
12 Sep Vanmarcke Team Saxo Bank 6 33
13 Alberto Ongarato LPR Brakes Farnese Vini 0 31
14 Kurt Hovelynck Liquigas 9 27
15 Vincent Jérôme Bbox Bouygues Télécom 0 27
16 Daniele Bennati Liquigas 10 26
17 Wesley Sulzberger Garmin - Slipstream 0 25
18 Sören Hofmann Team Milram 0 18
19 Wim Stroetinga Team Milram 1 16
20 Davide Viganò Fuji - Servetto 3 13
Edited by t-baum on 04-05-2009 20:21
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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Posted on 05-05-2009 03:36
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TDU Stage 5
Finally the penultimate stage, Vanendert is favorite for Willunga hill.
A break of 14 went up the road and with 75 KM left they still had 8 minutes, time to wick it up.
They come to the bottom of the hill with still 4 and a half minutes, it doesn't look good for the peleton as of now.
Over the top Cadel and Jelle have attacked over the top with a few other riders, the break remains at 2 minutes.
Going under the flag the break is within site for the chasers but they are just out of reach.
Belda from Caisse manages to take the win.
Stage
Rank Name Team Time
1 David Belda Caisse d'Epargne 3h27'12
2 Renaud Dion Adria Mobil s.t.
3 Erlantz Gaisán Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
4 Richie Porte Drapac Porsche Cycling s.t.
5 Julien Laidoun Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
6 Kurt Hovelynck Liquigas s.t.
7 Robert Wagner Team Milram s.t.
8 Cameron Wurf Amore & Vita - McDonald's s.t.
9 Wim De Vocht Silence - Lotto s.t.
10 Edgar Nohales Team Katusha s.t.
11 Steven Cozza Garmin - Slipstream s.t.
12 Stuart Shaw Team AIS s.t.
13 Joaquin Novoa Cervélo Test Team s.t.
14 Kurt-Asle Arvesen Euskaltel - Euskadi + 53
15 Laurent Lefèvre AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
16 Maarten Tjallingii Cervélo Test Team s.t.
17 Fabian Cancellara Team Saxo Bank s.t.
18 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream s.t.
19 Nick Nuyens Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
20 Thomas Voeckler Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
21 Matteo Carrara Astana Cycling Team s.t.
22 Jelle Vanendert Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
23 Vladimir Efimkin Caisse d'Epargne s.t.
24 Mauro Facci Team AIS s.t.
25 Rigoberto Urán LPR Brakes Farnese Vini s.t.
26 Cadel Evans Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
27 Vladimir Gusev Team Katusha s.t.
28 Stijn Ennekens Rabobank s.t.
29 Björn Leukemans Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
GC
Rank Name Team Time
1 Renaud Dion Adria Mobil 16h13'45
2 Robert Wagner Team Milram + 4
3 Wim De Vocht Silence - Lotto s.t.
4 Erlantz Gaisán Euskaltel - Euskadi + 5
5 Kurt Hovelynck Liquigas s.t.
6 Steven Cozza Garmin - Slipstream + 7
7 Edgar Nohales Team Katusha s.t.
8 Richie Porte Drapac Porsche Cycling s.t.
9 Joaquin Novoa Cervélo Test Team s.t.
10 Stuart Shaw Team AIS s.t.
11 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream + 52
12 Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
13 Matteo Carrara Astana Cycling Team + 54
14 Thor Hushovd Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
15 Vincent Jérôme Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
16 Pedro Merino Euskaltel - Euskadi + 55
17 Ilias Periklis Amore & Vita - McDonald's s.t.
18 Wesley Sulzberger Garmin - Slipstream + 56
19 Alberto Ongarato LPR Brakes Farnese Vini s.t.
20 Graziano Gasparre Amore & Vita - McDonald's s.t.
21 Pedro Horrillo Liquigas + 57
22 Pablo Urtasun Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
23 Nazareno Guido LPR Brakes Farnese Vini s.t.
24 Stijn Ennekens Rabobank + 58
25 Guennadi Mikhailov Team Katusha s.t.
26 Murilo Fischer AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
27 Sep Vanmarcke Team Saxo Bank s.t.
28 Rafal Ratajczyk Lampre - N.G.C s.t.
29 Leigh Howard Drapac Porsche Cycling s.t.
30 Francesco Rivera Lampre - N.G.C + 59
Points
Rank Name Team Points General
1 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream 3 82
2 Thor Hushovd Team Columbia - High Road 0 66
3 Matteo Carrara Astana Cycling Team 0 56
4 Murilo Fischer AG2R La Mondiale 0 55
5 Guennadi Mikhailov Team Katusha 0 54
6 Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Columbia - High Road 0 52
7 Sébastien Chavanel Bbox Bouygues Télécom 0 47
8 Matthew Goss Team Saxo Bank 0 45
9 Kurt Hovelynck Liquigas 17 44
10 Gert Steegmans Liquigas 0 37
11 Janek Tombak Lampre - N.G.C 0 36
12 Dominique Rollin Team Milram 0 36
13 Sep Vanmarcke Team Saxo Bank 0 33
14 Alberto Ongarato LPR Brakes Farnese Vini 0 31
15 Vincent Jérôme Bbox Bouygues Télécom 0 27
16 Daniele Bennati Liquigas 0 26
17 Renaud Dion Adria Mobil 23 25
18 Wesley Sulzberger Garmin - Slipstream 0 25
19 David Belda Caisse d'Epargne 25 25
20 Robert Wagner Team Milram 17 24
KOM
Rank Name Team Mountain General
1 Cameron Wurf Amore & Vita - McDonald's 2 4
2 Pedro Merino Euskaltel - Euskadi 0 4
3 Richard England Amore & Vita - McDonald's 0 4
4 Luke Davison Team AIS 0 4
5 Bert Grabsch Quick·Step 0 4
6 David Belda Caisse d'Epargne 4 4
7 Daniel McConnell Adria Mobil 0 2
8 Benjamin Brooks Team AIS 0 2
9 Pedro Horrillo Liquigas 0 2
10 Dominik Roels Team Milram 0 1
11 Sebastian Balck Team Saxo Bank 0 1
12 Renaud Dion Adria Mobil 0 1
13 Peter Kennaugh Cervélo Test Team 0 1
14 Erlantz Gaisán Euskaltel - Euskadi 1 1
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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Posted on 05-05-2009 08:52
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Adria Mobil participates on TdU and will win the race?  |
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Posted on 06-05-2009 22:35
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TDU Stage 6
Last day today, will be just a short flat criterium to end the week.
After what seemed like every single team except Adria Mobile put in an attack a front group of 8 formed that included cadel, with a few scatterd chasers.
But Adria suprised everyone and reeled the pack in, bunch sprint.
3k to go.
Bennati wins a super close sprint with Napolitano.
Stage
Rank Name Team Time
1 Daniele Bennati Liquigas 1h51'27
2 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream s.t.
3 Matthew Goss Team Saxo Bank s.t.
4 Thor Hushovd Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
5 Bruno Lima Lampre - N.G.C s.t.
6 Wim Stroetinga Team Milram s.t.
7 Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
8 Sébastien Chavanel Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
9 Gert Steegmans Liquigas s.t.
10 Murilo Fischer AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
11 Guennadi Mikhailov Team Katusha s.t.
12 Francesco Chicchi Team Katusha s.t.
13 Jan Bakelants Team Katusha s.t.
14 Dominique Rollin Team Milram s.t.
15 Luciano Pagliarini Bbox Bouygues Télécom s.t.
16 Yoann Offredo AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
17 Rafal Ratajczyk Lampre - N.G.C s.t.
18 Jonathan Bellis Team Saxo Bank s.t.
19 Matteo Carrara Astana Cycling Team s.t.
20 Davide Viganò Fuji - Servetto s.t.
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Rank Name Team Time
1 Renaud Dion Adria Mobil 18h05'12
2 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream + 48
3 Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Columbia - High Road + 52
4 Daniele Bennati Liquigas + 54
5 Thor Hushovd Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
6 Matteo Carrara Astana Cycling Team s.t.
7 Matthew Goss Team Saxo Bank + 58
8 Murilo Fischer AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
9 Guennadi Mikhailov Team Katusha s.t.
10 Rafal Ratajczyk Lampre - N.G.C s.t.
11 Francesco Rivera Lampre - N.G.C + 59
12 Gert Steegmans Liquigas + 1'00
13 Jan Bakelants Team Katusha s.t.
14 Dominique Rollin Team Milram s.t.
15 Jonathan Bellis Team Saxo Bank s.t.
16 René Mandri AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
17 Nick Nuyens Team Columbia - High Road s.t.
18 Davide Viganò Fuji - Servetto s.t.
19 Yoann Offredo AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
20 Ashley Humbert AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
Points
Rank Name Team
1 Danilo Napolitano Garmin - Slipstream
2 Thor Hushovd Team Columbia - High Road
3 Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Columbia - High Road
4 Murilo Fischer AG2R La Mondiale
5 Matthew Goss Team Saxo Bank
6 Guennadi Mikhailov Team Katusha
7 Sébastien Chavanel Bbox Bouygues Télécom
8 Matteo Carrara Astana Cycling Team
9 Daniele Bennati Liquigas
10 Gert Steegmans Liquigas
11 Kurt Hovelynck Liquigas
12 Dominique Rollin Team Milram
13 Janek Tombak Lampre - N.G.C
14 Sep Vanmarcke Team Saxo Bank
15 Wim Stroetinga Team Milram
16 Alberto Ongarato LPR Brakes Farnese Vini
17 Vincent Jérôme Bbox Bouygues Télécom
18 Renaud Dion Adria Mobil
19 Wesley Sulzberger Garmin - Slipstream
20 David Belda Caisse d'Epargne
KOM
Rank Name Team Mountain General
1 Cameron Wurf Amore & Vita - McDonald's 0 4
2 Pedro Merino Euskaltel - Euskadi 0 4
3 Richard England Amore & Vita - McDonald's 0 4
4 Luke Davison Team AIS 0 4
5 Bert Grabsch Quick·Step 0 4
6 David Belda Caisse d'Epargne 0 4
7 Daniel McConnell Adria Mobil 0 2
8 Benjamin Brooks Team AIS 0 2
9 Pedro Horrillo Liquigas 0 2
10 Dominik Roels Team Milram 0 1
11 Sebastian Balck Team Saxo Bank 0 1
12 Renaud Dion Adria Mobil 0 1
13 Peter Kennaugh Cervélo Test Team 0 1
14 Erlantz Gaisán Euskaltel - Euskadi 0 1
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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Posted on 07-05-2009 00:23
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Posted on 07-05-2009 03:46
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This story is dead
but look for something on May 09th.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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Posted on 07-05-2009 08:31
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t-baum wrote:
This story is dead
but look for something on May 09th.
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Posted on 07-05-2009 16:08
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Because i hate going so slow in carers, i like blitzing through them.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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Posted on 07-05-2009 17:42
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so you should think if you really want to make story, when you have lack of patience 
Edited by beagle on 07-05-2009 17:42
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Posted on 07-05-2009 18:07
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Hey besides waggy im the forum fuck up here, its what i do.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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