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mb2612
rjc_43 wrote:
Good luck in those 5 races that you dominate... Whilst other riders get to race like double the amount. Wink

yeah, and given I really need Valverde to make my stage race goals, I am scared he will do almost no races this year
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mb2612 wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
Good luck in those 5 races that you dominate... Whilst other riders get to race like double the amount. Wink

yeah, and given I really need Valverde to make my stage race goals, I am scared he will do almost no races this year


Last year Devolder was only able to race in like 4 races, but he did so well in those 4 that he finished 2nd in the standings, a truly dominant year.
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mb2612
how many race days did he get, 35?
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stemple
mb2612 wrote:
how many race days did he get, 35?


i think it was 45. He raced De Ronde, Vuelta Venezuela, TdF, and i want to say Romandie or Suisse.
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rjc_43
Ha!! Valverde's not getting that much Wink
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rjc_43 wrote:
Ha!! Valverde's not getting that much Wink

wait, not getting 35 or 45 because I would acept 40 as ok any lower would seem to harsh to me.
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rjc_43
hahahahahaha, I guess you have to wait and see Wink All's fair in this game.
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mb2612 wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
Ha!! Valverde's not getting that much Wink

wait, not getting 35 or 45 because I would acept 40 as ok any lower would seem to harsh to me.


What's harsh is having to race against Valverde in the first placePfft
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rjc_43
Quite. You can fully expect him to win every single race he enters. So use him wisely. It was a choice you had to contemplate when signing him for the season. Everyone knew you'd have limited race days with a good rider. And it was mentioned that a new system of race days was being added that was fairer, based on rider averages.
You also have to remember that WildCard races don't count towards race days.
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mb2612
Well obviously I am biased, and hoping that i can influence the decision by stating what I hope happens. =)
I know wild card races don't count, I would be upset if he lost the individual title even if he won all his races, which I don't think he will do anyway with the advent of daily form and breakaways staying away.

Also I don't think it is unfair that I got him, it's not like I used my massive budget to buy him, he only cost me 650,000
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rjc_43
You clearly don't see the error in that sentance...

"it's not like I used my massive budget to buy him, he only cost me 650,000"

For 650,000 I have Bertagnolli and Nocentini. Combined race days, they have more than triple Valverde's.
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mb2612
rjc_43 wrote:
You clearly don't see the error in that sentance...

"it's not like I used my massive budget to buy him, he only cost me 650,000"

For 650,000 I have Bertagnolli and Nocentini. Combined race days, they have more than triple Valverde's.

given that I was given 5.3 million, its small change, if you want to turn this into an argument about who did the best deals I suspect my young talents will win but we will see at the end of the season whether Valverde was worth it.
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Levi4life
The master of getting the most out of your money is dave92. His Tinkoff team dominated in the first CT season, and as a first year PT team he smashed team's that should have been better. This year I think he is a prime candidate for a podium in the overall standings. His team is amazing.
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mb2612
Agreed on value for money although his lack of a top quality stage racer makes me wonder whether he can get a podium

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SportingNonsense
mb2612 wrote:
Agreed on value for money although his lack of a top quality stage racer makes me wonder whether he can get a podium


Uran Wink

And yes Vavlerde does have the least race days of anyone. A) Because of his average. B ) Because Top Conti riders have less than top ProTour riders
Edited by SportingNonsense on 03-05-2009 23:39
 
mb2612
SportingNonsense wrote:
mb2612 wrote:
Agreed on value for money although his lack of a top quality stage racer makes me wonder whether he can get a podium


Uran Wink

And yes Vavlerde does have the least race days of anyone. A) Because of his average. B ) Because Top Conti riders have less than top ProTour riders


Uran doesn't have the Hill stat to be considered top in my opinion, and yay if I have to be low I might as well be lowest, wildcards will probably mean he gets to race more than some riders though.
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rjc_43
mb2612 wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
You clearly don't see the error in that sentance...

"it's not like I used my massive budget to buy him, he only cost me 650,000"

For 650,000 I have Bertagnolli and Nocentini. Combined race days, they have more than triple Valverde's.

given that I was given 5.3 million, its small change, if you want to turn this into an argument about who did the best deals I suspect my young talents will win but we will see at the end of the season whether Valverde was worth it.


You sure about that? Wink
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mb2612
rjc_43 wrote:
mb2612 wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
You clearly don't see the error in that sentance...

"it's not like I used my massive budget to buy him, he only cost me 650,000"

For 650,000 I have Bertagnolli and Nocentini. Combined race days, they have more than triple Valverde's.

given that I was given 5.3 million, its small change, if you want to turn this into an argument about who did the best deals I suspect my young talents will win but we will see at the end of the season whether Valverde was worth it.


You sure about that? Wink

Grin I don't know but Tenorio and Madrazo will win GT's and I got them for about 200,000 each and I seem to recall you being annoyed about how high the price of your riders had been pushed.
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untal
mb2612 wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
mb2612 wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
You clearly don't see the error in that sentance...

"it's not like I used my massive budget to buy him, he only cost me 650,000"

For 650,000 I have Bertagnolli and Nocentini. Combined race days, they have more than triple Valverde's.

given that I was given 5.3 million, its small change, if you want to turn this into an argument about who did the best deals I suspect my young talents will win but we will see at the end of the season whether Valverde was worth it.


You sure about that? Wink

Grin I don't know but Tenorio and Madrazo will win GT's and I got them for about 200,000 each and I seem to recall you being annoyed about how high the price of your riders had been pushed.


When they have the quality to win GT's, and if you're still in CT, you'll probably can't afford their salary and you payed about 400,000 during some seasons for nothing.
Edited by untal on 03-05-2009 23:55
 
rjc_43
Aye, Ponzi and Caruso, who will win Single day classics I got both for about 200,000 each. I got annoyed because people were bidding on my domestique riders, which was meaning I was getting close to my limit on Ponzi and Caruso.

I would put us on equal levels for our top two youths, they have completely different uses, and we have different team aims. However I do have a shed load more youth who will be better. Rowes both at 80 sprint, Fenn at 79 cobble. Grippo and Diggle at or above 76 hill. Scarponi at 78 mountain, Costagli at 77. I think I'm covered for a fair few years to come.
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