|
Transfer Season Rules 2024
|
| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 27-08-2024 22:04
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 18187
Joined: 12-05-2012
PCM$: 0.00
|
Part of this confirmation did involve something very relevant, and i do wonder which variation was used for that (so horribly vague as to not give things away incase of late manager arrivals).
|
| |
|
|
| Blasing |
Posted on 28-08-2024 12:44
|
Neo-Pro
Posts: 279
Joined: 27-06-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
I am relatively new to the league and don't know all the history to this topic. But I just got informed that I have in some offers written JEWA Tirol and in some offers Jewa Tirol.
Come on guys, what is this discussion? All that is important in such an offer is that every other GM knows who has a bid on the rider. It absolutelty doesn't matter wheter a team name is in caps or not, as long as the team name itself is fully on display and understandable.
Be it JEWA or Jewa, be it GIANTS or Giants. This is a stupid discussion and it makes me think we are in preschool.
I will from now on write all offers as JEWA TIROL (as in the Transfers DB), but still I think it makes no difference wheter it's written in caps or not.
Be reasonable guys.
PS: Or does it make a difference for the admins in their work whether it is written in caps or not, as long the name itself is right?
Manager of JEWA TIROL Cycling Team
|
| |
|
|
| Nemolito |
Posted on 28-08-2024 12:46
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3370
Joined: 20-04-2020
PCM$: 425.00
|
Hey Blasing, just to make one thing clear, it actually does matter. Because if you write it exactly the same as in the DB, the code can pick up on it. If you don't, it requires (way) more manual work 
|
| |
|
|
| Blasing |
Posted on 28-08-2024 12:51
|
Neo-Pro
Posts: 279
Joined: 27-06-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Nemolito wrote:
Hey Blasing, just to make one thing clear, it actually does matter. Because if you write it exactly the same as in the DB, the code can pick up on it. If you don't, it requires (way) more manual work
Ok then it is a different thing. So even caps does matter?
Manager of JEWA TIROL Cycling Team
|
| |
|
|
| Nemolito |
Posted on 28-08-2024 12:56
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3370
Joined: 20-04-2020
PCM$: 425.00
|
They do, indeed 
|
| |
|
|
| Blasing |
Posted on 28-08-2024 12:56
|
Neo-Pro
Posts: 279
Joined: 27-06-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
I was just told me to repost my offers with the exact database name, so caps does matter. Will know for the future, thanks!
Manager of JEWA TIROL Cycling Team
|
| |
|
|
| roturn |
Posted on 30-08-2024 09:17
|
Team Manager
Posts: 22246
Joined: 24-11-2007
PCM$: 3900.00
|
Draft Order is also published now.
Don`t forget about the 2 Free CT Rider in case you are a CT manager.
Also read the rules for this regarding rider limit etc.
Duvel-Tsingtao
Zain-Omantel
Cervélo Test Team
Ethiopian Airlines
Glanbia
Spark Team NZ
Genii Hyundai N Cycling
Trans Looney Tunes
Newton Foundation p/b Zwift
Team Würth MODYF
Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team
Air New Zealand-Alfa Romeo
Euskadi-Murias
SEE Turtles
Simba Cement - Tanga Fresh
Babymetal
Hilcona Racing Team
Euskotren - Pays Basque |
| |
|
|
| jt1109 |
Posted on 30-08-2024 09:30
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3219
Joined: 23-07-2008
PCM$: 400.00
|
roturn wrote:
Draft Order is also published now.
Don`t forget about the 2 Free CT Rider in case you are a CT manager.
Also read the rules for this regarding rider limit etc.
Duvel-Tsingtao
Zain-Omantel
Cervélo Test Team
Ethiopian Airlines
Glanbia
Spark Team NZ
Genii Hyundai N Cycling
Trans Looney Tunes
Newton Foundation p/b Zwift
Team Würth MODYF
Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team
Air New Zealand-Alfa Romeo
Euskadi-Murias
SEE Turtles
Simba Cement - Tanga Fresh
Babymetal
Hilcona Racing Team
Euskotren - Pays Basque
Does the draft order Snake for the 2nd round Roturn (e.g. Euskotren pick 1st Round 2) or do we return back to the 1st pick for the 2nd round?
Thanks |
| |
|
|
| ivaneurope |
Posted on 30-08-2024 09:31
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 2934
Joined: 09-05-2011
PCM$: 300.00
|
jt1109 wrote:
roturn wrote:
Draft Order is also published now.
Don`t forget about the 2 Free CT Rider in case you are a CT manager.
Also read the rules for this regarding rider limit etc.
Duvel-Tsingtao
Zain-Omantel
Cervélo Test Team
Ethiopian Airlines
Glanbia
Spark Team NZ
Genii Hyundai N Cycling
Trans Looney Tunes
Newton Foundation p/b Zwift
Team Würth MODYF
Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team
Air New Zealand-Alfa Romeo
Euskadi-Murias
SEE Turtles
Simba Cement - Tanga Fresh
Babymetal
Hilcona Racing Team
Euskotren - Pays Basque
Does the draft order Snake for the 2nd round Roturn (e.g. Euskotren pick 1st Round 2) or do we return back to the 1st pick for the 2nd round?
Thanks
It's based on the serpentine system which means that Euskotren will have back-to-back picks
|
| |
|
|
| roturn |
Posted on 30-08-2024 09:36
|
Team Manager
Posts: 22246
Joined: 24-11-2007
PCM$: 3900.00
|
Yes. Snake. Duvel will have first pick in R1 and then last in R2.
Euskotren having the double pick.
So check yourself, what the minimum length of your draft list should have.
If your list is not long enough, you lose your spot, the draft goes on and you can only pick at the very end. |
| |
|
|
| roturn |
Posted on 30-08-2024 09:58
|
Team Manager
Posts: 22246
Joined: 24-11-2007
PCM$: 3900.00
|
Updated Draft Order:
Duvel-Tsingtao
Zain-Omantel
Cervélo Test Team
Ethiopian Airlines
Team Würth MODYF
Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team
Air New Zealand-Alfa Romeo
Euskadi-Murias
SEE Turtles
Simba Cement - Tanga Fresh
Babymetal
Hilcona Racing Team
Euskotren - Pays Basque
Glanbia
Spark Team NZ
Genii Hyundai N Cycling
Trans Looney Tunes
Newton Foundation p/b Zwift
Relegated teams below existing CT managers! |
| |
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 03-12-2024 17:14
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| Fabianski |
Posted on 04-09-2024 16:29
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4671
Joined: 29-09-2018
PCM$: 185.00
|
Well, I'm a bit late now, but still wanted to bring up the "Wisniowski case" again.
The situation: I had a deal with ember, Wisniowski for Tediashvili and 2M of cash. Both of us confirmed the deal, which hence was valid.
Later on, ember decided to accept a higher value offer, which was (iirc) plain cash, 2.75M, by Sykkel. As stated by the rules, ember posted a new deal and confirmed.
Sykkel confirmed as well, but with the wrong team name. I noticed the wrong confirmation line about 5 minutes before the initial deal's 24h were over, and sent a PM to Sykkel like 2m before the deadline, asking him to fix this mistake. He didn't make it in time. Hence, the new deal was not valid at this point in time, when the 24h of the initial deal were over.
The initial deal was declared void by ember, adding the link to the new deal. Which is perfectly valid.
As everyone had already arranged with the new situation, we tried to find a good solution, meaning that the goal was to make the new deal go through (as we had continued our transfer proceedings based on that one). The answer I finally got was that after invalidating the initial deal, the new deal partners had 24h to come up with a valid new deal. Which is what they did.
However, I just re-read the rules on that subject. And I found this:
9. Both teams in the new deal must confirm the deal before the original 24 hours have expired, using the correct confirmation format.
So, my question here is, what do I have to understand by "the original 24 hours"? Is it the 24h after both teams confirmed the initial (or previous) deal?
Or is it 24h hours after declaring the deal void, as was the final ruling by ManGame-Admin?
Just to say, I'm perfectly fine with the outcome, so I definitely don't want anything to be reverted or so. I just would like to have clarification on this situation, so that the rules are either even more explicit next year, or just applied as they are written. It wouldn't have been great for either of the three involved managers had the final deal been declared void and reverted, but as I interprete the rules, it would have been the correct decision. Any opinions on this?
|
| |
|
|
| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 04-09-2024 17:41
|
Team Manager
Posts: 33046
Joined: 08-03-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Didn't see any of this at the time, but from my perspective of when the rule was created:
- A deal is only voided after a replacement deal has been confirmed by both managers involved in the replacement deal.
- If it's in a new thread, then a linking post is required to be made in the original thread. This post isn't a declaration that voids the deal, it is notification that in another thread, the confirmation of another deal has voided this deal.
It would be sensible to have some scope for not strict enforcement in cases of genuine human error like this. But I'd say there could also be a reasonable argument that in a future repeat, you could have had the option to insist that the original deal stands - since it was not in fact voided within 24 hours. I feel like there has been equivalent in Free Agency - when an invalid bid has gone unnoticed, the team of the previous lead bid has had the option to refuse then 'inheriting' the rider.
I don't think it would be a good idea to allow a mechanism that a deal can be voided just by a post saying 'At some point in the next 24 hours, I'm going to confirm a different deal for this rider'.
|
| |
|
|
| knockout |
Posted on 04-09-2024 22:40
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 7737
Joined: 21-12-2010
PCM$: 400.00
|
Fabianski wrote:
I noticed the wrong confirmation line about 5 minutes before the initial deal's 24h were over, and sent a PM to Sykkel like 2m before the deadline, asking him to fix this mistake. He didn't make it in time. Hence, the new deal was not valid at this point in time, when the 24h of the initial deal were over.
The initial deal was declared void by ember, adding the link to the new deal. Which is perfectly valid.
As everyone had already arranged with the new situation, we tried to find a good solution, meaning that the goal was to make the new deal go through (as we had continued our transfer proceedings based on that one). The answer I finally got was that after invalidating the initial deal, the new deal partners had 24h to come up with a valid new deal. Which is what they did.
I think there are two ways to go here (for future cases):
1. We can be lenient and say that the 2nd deal was valid already due to genuine human error.
2. We can be strict and say that no new valid deal came together due to the error, resulting in the first deal not being cancelled and giving you the chance to get the deal if you havent moved on.
Spoiler i dont really want to share my prefered choice since i'm against the 24h period in the first place 
I however dont understand the logic of restarting the 24h timer with the need to "come up with a valid new deal" (unless its only for admin purposes only). What would have happened if they dont post another deal? Wisniowski remains with Aker? You have to wait a total of 48h before you know whats up? Feels like it opens up the options for some really weird things to happen that are further away from letter and spirit of the rules than whichever of the two options above is used.
A Big Thank You To All MG Reporters! |
| |
|
|
| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 05-09-2024 00:36
|
Team Leader
Posts: 7298
Joined: 11-04-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
Hoping for really quick clarification. For the CT draft list, do we upload to dropbox or PM to someone?
Sorry if it says somewhere. I checked the rules and couldn't see anything. Cheers
|
| |
|
|
| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 05-09-2024 07:41
|
Team Manager
Posts: 33046
Joined: 08-03-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Jakstar22 wrote:
Hoping for really quick clarification. For the CT draft list, do we upload to dropbox or PM to someone?
Sorry if it says somewhere. I checked the rules and couldn't see anything. Cheers
Dropbox and PM ManGame-Admin to say that it's there
Or just PM that account with a list within the PM
|
| |
|
![imgur.com/KlJUqDx.jpg[/img[img]]https://imgur.com/yUygrQ.jpg](https://imgur.com/KlJUqDx.jpg[/img[img]]https://imgur.com/yUygrQ.jpg)
