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| Halvor |
Posted on 21-09-2008 20:15
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The doping is a bad thing, but on another side, the sport is funnier to watch.... |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 21-09-2008 21:11
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Merckx, Coppi and Indurain. Never liked Armstrong..to systematic.
Lemond..has character.
Ulle as one greatest talent ever. |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 21-09-2008 21:15
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mesq wrote:
btw: does anyone else hate Bernard Hinault with a passion? 
No, but I hate Jaques Anquteil with a passion |
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| aavf |
Posted on 21-09-2008 21:19
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Merckx. Gotta mention Ullrich as the one who made me like Cycling, i'll never forget his win at the Tour 97 in Andorra, that was the day i started love Cycling. |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 22-09-2008 00:21
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cozza *runs*
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 22-09-2008 01:05
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Levi4life wrote:
cozza *runs*
I'd nominate him for greatest cyclist in the facial hair category |
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| mesq |
Posted on 22-09-2008 08:53
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issoisso wrote:
mesq wrote:
Don't get me wrong...Indurain was truly a class act. But I've always seen him as a timetrial specialist, rather than a complete all-round rider. He wasn't much of a climber, for instance.
Because he came to the Tour dead tired from winning the Giro, so he limited his losses in the mountains. Saying he wasn't much of a climber in those years would be strange considering only Pantani and a couple others could drop him, and even then only because he decided not to try to follow, and they never won more than a few seconds per mountain stage.
After that, he stopped doing the Giro to win and went full-out for the Tour.
The result was that he regularly dropped Pantani, Riis and all the other climbers.
He was a fantastic climber 
Of course, having one of the most packed set of water carriers ever assembled to tow him up the climbs has nothing to do with it 
Anyway, Indurain is surely in my Top 10 all-time list, but I would never rank him as high as Merckx and Lance. If I knew more about Coppi, he could challenge Merckx for the top spot, so he closes up the top 3.
Merckx
Armstrong
Coppi
Vlaeminck
Gimondi
Indurain
Pantani
Poulidor
Bartali
Kelly
Honourable mentions go to Charly Gaul, and Joaquim Agostinho.
Edited by mesq on 22-09-2008 08:59
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| mesq |
Posted on 22-09-2008 08:56
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Deadpool wrote:
mesq wrote:
btw: does anyone else hate Bernard Hinault with a passion?
No, but I hate Jaques Anquteil with a passion
I don't know what gives with French riders, since their best always came in second, while their not-so-good managed to scrap ten wins. Bad Karma must have ensued. |
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| Rin |
Posted on 22-09-2008 09:18
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Mario Cipollini , if he had been started 2000-2003 at the Tour de France , Cipollini would be much more mentioned because I think especially 2002 , he would have won much more TDF stages and would´ve been better in the statistics , he dominated sprinting and made the sprinting train very effective |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 22-09-2008 09:38
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F_Schleck wrote:
The doping is a bad thing, but on another side, the sport is funnier to watch.... It's not. Definitely not. The faster they ride, the more dragging they get, the more cowardly they ride. The less failures they get.
Of course if you add one dopehead in a peloton of clean riders he'll shatter the field big time, so it will be more spectacular in a way, but would it be that fun to hold a cycling race in the middle of a MotoGP Grand Prix ? I'd enjoy it for 10 seconds... |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 22-09-2008 09:44
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tomzk111 wrote:
So, guys, who do you reckon the best pro cyclist is/was?
Merckx, Anquetil, Coppi, Armstrong etc....??
For me its got to be Merckx as he won so much in his day, what do the rest of you think? Before answering that, "the best" should be defined. The best palmares ? Give a scale point to every race, knowing that their values evolved throughout eras, then count everyone's points. Then Merckx was probably the best, right in front of Hinault. But, Coppi, Bartali, Robic, Vietto and so on had their careers ruined by WW2. They lost many years then.
Then there are generations of riders with a lack of utterly strong riders, which makes it easier for one of them to dominate everything. Hinault had more competition than Merckx for example.
Then again, cycling has evolved. We're in an era of specialisation. You cannot be a do-it-all rider any more at one time. Jalabert did it all, but at different times of his career and without being the very strongest in one particular domain.
The best in the sense of "the strongest", that might be Ullrich or Riis, or maybe Jalabert in 1995-1998. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 22-09-2008 10:39
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Lol @ the guy saying Indurain wasn't much of a climber. I've seen videos of Indurain riding so hard on a mountain he simply dropped Pantani, Virenque, Riis etc... |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 22-09-2008 11:13
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Indeed how the hell he manage to win..Tdf so many times if he cant climb. |
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| rodda |
Posted on 22-09-2008 11:30
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i hate these threads 
i'm sure we have had about 238372842 exactly the same haha
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 22-09-2008 11:32
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Lol, i suppose its something to do if theres nothing else going on.
I always find it hard to name the greatest cyclist there are so many to choose. What makes them the greatest, results, the way they did it, how they were after etc. |
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| rodda |
Posted on 22-09-2008 12:39
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and thats the conclusion we always come to haha
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| Stairs |
Posted on 22-09-2008 13:49
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Now, hold your breath and tie your mouth: https://www.dailypeloton.com/displayar...p?pk=12131
Personally, I think Gustave Garrigou is the best ever. I loved watching him climbing those cols.
Never.
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 22-09-2008 14:34
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I also think That Thys should be mentioned, he could "easily" have been the first with 5 TDF wins, as WW1 took 6 years or so away from him.
BenBarnes wrote:
Thor wears a live rattlesnake as a condom.
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| MacC |
Posted on 22-09-2008 15:12
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Sean Kelly |
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| Tommeke |
Posted on 22-09-2008 15:25
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Jan Ullrich was the best and Tony Martin will be the best! |
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