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The Great Big MG Survey - RESULTS IN FOUR PARTS
DarkWolf
I completed it. Interesting set of questions and I am curious to see how this turns out. Hopefully, this survey could make the MG grow. I followed from a distance and this is my first year taking part in it, but I already love it quite a bit.
 
SotD
A small "Note" text field below the 1-5 estimates would be nice. Like SN say my evaluation would have been very different for 5-7 years ago Smile

Very cool that you do this. Can't wait to see the responses Smile
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TheManxMissile
@SN / SotD - Yes answers would be different a few years ago for me too. I'll tuck away an idea of a version with a view looking back in time.
Found it much easier to keep it shorter and more dialled in on my initial questions. But if there's enough interest i'm hoping to keep coming back to explore new areas and ideas Smile

@All - Thanks for taking part and being interested!
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valverde321
Submitted. Interested to see how the responses go. Some fun ones in there, and some good discussion starters (or maybe re-starters) Pfft
 
TheManxMissile
Just wanted to say a MASSIVE thank you to the 31 responses so far Shock That's already a big portion of the game and i'm loving it!
There's a ton to look at and work from on the written answers, especially those of you whore wrote a full paragraph. It's so good to see genuine and honest answers.

I won't go into any details here, way too much to properly study and work on. And i want to leave it a few weeks to give as many managers a chance to answer without any bias.
However i have to say, i'm surprised at how often we play PCM on average...

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@Sammy - Already a load of great suggestions for Part 2 questions, and i can definitely see enough interesting areas for maybe even a Part 3. But it won't be soon, i'm planning to spread this out across the season to keep my own MG interest going strong

@DarkWolf - Old or new manager, your opinion is just as valid as any other. And maybe this can inspire some other user contributions as well to keep the game strong and healthy.

@Valv - I can see some potentially controversial discussions to come, and i wanted a couple of light hearted questions just to be fun. Certainly seems most managers got that based on their responses.
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TheManxMissile
Up to 38 responses now. This is mostly just a bump and reminder for those remaining managers you can participate in this.

A results/review/dicussion of the Pilot Survey will come once we're a few races into the actual season Smile
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TheManxMissile
I would guess about 1-2 weeks before you all get to see the results of this first survey experiment. 42 responses so far, and out of 61 Managers that's an impressive return. Still time for the remaining 21 of you to contribute Smile
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TheManxMissile
The MG Pilot Survey - Results Part One


How old are you?
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For me the main point to note is that we have no U18's in the game currently. This surprised me for sure as i was convinced we had a couple. Not much else to say.


Where are you from?
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Rule Britannia! Not overly surprising that the English-speaking nations top the charts. But Germans and Norwegians are right amongst our top users. I'm surprised by the Romanian representation! Not a great showing for the traditional cycling nations, but most of those PCM fans will be on other language forums.


Do you regularly play PCM? (not including MG reporting)
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We do not play PCM. There'll definitely be a follow up in Survey #2 to get more reasons why we don't play PCM but will take part in the MG.


Do you take part in ICL/RTG/Other Community PCM Games?
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This also gives good room for a follow up in a future survey part as to why/why not. Pretty evenly split so no conclusions to draw without that more in depth follow up.


How big a fan of cycling are you? (1: Not really, 5: Massive)
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Full support to the one person who doesn't really like cycling but still plays the MG! Not a surprise we are mostly fairly good cycling fans, but don't overlook that the lower end of the scale does make up almost 1/5 managers. This gives the impression that the community and interaction aspect does matter, and more on this in later questions.


Do you play other non-PCM sports management games (e.g. Football Manager)?
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We like sports management games! Shouldn't be a surprise on a sports management game forum. In a later survey this will link up with Q3 as we figure out why we play lots of other games and not PCM.


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-Not all %'s add up to 100, this is due to basic rounding
-I adjusted some of the location answers to fit the overall Nationality format
-For the Age question i combined the 40-49 & 50+ ansers for simplicity

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TheManxMissile
The MG Pilot Survey - Results Part Two


Is your team based in your own country?
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You could have figured this our from Q2 and looking at the Manager List. Most of us have gone overseas to base our teams, but not by much.


Do you have a personal link to your teams sponsors?
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Most of us have gone searching for our sponsors, but it's a bigger proportion than i expected which went for something a connection. And i can say that interestingly some managers didn't base a team in their own country but still had a personal connection to those sponsors.


Why did you pick your teams sponsors?
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This is obviously harder to quantify. The two primary themes which came through were "Fun" and "Local" as these cover about half of the responses. The personal connection also popped up in about 25% of answers. "Random" is also notable in a good 5 answers. It's worth nothing a connection to favorite teams and other sports, being more common than a random choice.
Being the question which spawned this whole idea i loved reading this, and a massive thank you to those managers who wrote whole paragraphs, gave some personal sorties, and just generally were very open and honest with their reasons.


Do you sign riders based on their real life skills/results/personality?
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Shoutout to the honest 9 of you! I thought there would be more Yes answers here given how many teams are based on a personal/local connection. But ultimately winning matters i guess.


How important is it for other managers to comment on your team?
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A significant majority in the 3+ area, the community and interaction aspect of the MG is clearly a factor for most of us. But it's not make-or-break and a good portion of players are just happy playing and doing their own thing.


Notes:
-Not all %'s add up to 100, this is due to basic rounding

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TheManxMissile
The MG Pilot Survey - Results Part Three


How important is Role Playing to you?
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Not too shocking, we mostly like to Role Play a lot. Although full credit to the 3 honest managers who are here to win!


How important is Power Playing to you?
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This isn't a direct mirror of the above question on RP. It's close but even with a strong interest in RP there are more managers who want to do well than just create a story line.


If you prefer RP or Power Gaming, why? What motivates your approach to the game?
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That's all the replies in full, as these are a lot less identifying of the manager & contain less personal information. I know this was a key question for most of you coming. There is a lot to digest and figure out here.
For me it's interesting that the answers in general feel a lot more balance in RP vs PG than the ranking questions above which leant more RP. The honesty is always appreciated. I also find it interesting that a number of answers make reference to changing attitudes over time from PG to RP, and even from RP to PG.
Definitely a few talking points to pick out & work into some questions on a future survey.


Do you have a long term, 3+ year, plan for your team?
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For me i thought slightly more managers were winging it on a year-to-year basis, but it's interesting to see so many of the players are commited to the long term. Certainly this gives the MGUCI some confidence in long term fixes to game issues, and knowing there should still be a strong player base for years to come.


Do you keep multiple spreadsheets/documents about your MG team?
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We do have one manager with a 3+ year plan but doesn't have multiple files for it, i assume they have a good memory. But again it's a good showing of a commited player base who are invested strongly in the game for the future. Both this and the question above should put a big smile on the faces of CT/SN/Roturn and the others who worked hard to create the MG & work hard to keep it going year-on-year.


Notes:
-Not all %'s add up to 100, this is due to basic rounding
-If you don't want your full answer to Q3 visible please let me know
-I have not edited in anyway the Q3 answers

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TheManxMissile
The MG Pilot Survey - Results Part Four


Who is your favoruite MG cult rider?
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The answers to this were a mess, but it's a clear win for Amadou Bakari! Way too many of you picked your own riders.


If you could freely make any change at all to the MG, what would it be and why?
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I like that a good number of you embraced the freedom of this question. Definitely concepts in here we wouldn't see appear in the yearly "Suggestions" thread, some of them for a good reason. But maybe there are few thoughts in here, especially the repeated ones, that could be explorede further.
I won't analyse more than that, apart from i'm happy to see some others getting on board with my reset idea.


For a Survey Part 2, what question would you want to ask?
I'm not going to list the answers to this or particularly talk about it. I've noted the themes and good questions, and it has definitely helped going forwards!


If you could add any Cycling Legend (e.g. Merckx, Anquetil, Coppi etc) to your MG team who would it be?
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You have spoken, next season Fabian Cancellara returns to the MG along with Marco Pantani!


Notes:
-Not all %'s add up to 100, this is due to basic rounding
-I have not edited in anyway the Q2 answers

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alexkr00
Wait, 3 people from Romania? Shock

I thought we were only two. I wonder who the third one is Grin
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Croatia14
Lovely work! Thanks to TMM for organizing it and to all others for participating actively!
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SotD
Very interesting read. Also it’s a give away which danes didn’t participate, as there’s 3 and not 1 as far as I know :-)
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TinxiaS
Nice work TheManxMissile.
It's nice to see different opinions on the game Grin
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Ulrich Ulriksen
Thanks for doing this. Definitely some themes in the suggestions. A lot of people who clearly care for the future of the game. Echo the thanks to CT/SN/Roturn for creating it.
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TheManxMissile
@Alex - I thought there was only 1, so this was big news to me.
@Croatia - There'll be more to come as the season continues Smile
@SotD - We also know there's an African who didn't participate. But we got a strong showing from the current managers.
@Tinxia - Just read any previous Suggestions thread, people are passionate in their differences. But what this shows above all is that we just want a good game for as many people as possible.
@Ulrich - Work is already underway on the next survey, but not until the new year
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knockout
Thanks for doing this. Was a good read. The RP vs Power Play question was the most interesting one to me and i loved how different the answers were there.


I love how you can match some of the texts so easily to certain managers but were posted anonymously Pfft
A Big Thank You To All MG Reporters!

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jandal7
Can’t believe my answer about why my sponsor was chosen was too identifiable, I’m sure loads of people have been asked to cease and desist by a company on twitter Pfft

Really cool and interesting to read, great effort TMM thanks for doing this!
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DarkWolf
alexkr00 wrote:
Wait, 3 people from Romania? Shock

I thought we were only two. I wonder who the third one is Grin


Allow me to introduce myself. Grin

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