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Gusev caught by Damsgaard's program
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Posted on 25-07-2008 21:11
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Im shocked about Gusev to be honest... |
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Posted on 25-07-2008 21:17
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issoisso wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
I'd be interesting on Isso's knowledge on the matter though. He seems to have a slightly less blurred vision than some of us. 
less blurred, I doubt it. different, no doubt. but if my vision is right, it's bleak. it involves many many teams pretending to fight doping and doing the opposite under the table.
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Posted on 25-07-2008 21:18
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jacknic wrote:
issoisso wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
I'd be interesting on Isso's knowledge on the matter though. He seems to have a slightly less blurred vision than some of us.
less blurred, I doubt it. different, no doubt. but if my vision is right, it's bleak. it involves many many teams pretending to fight doping and doing the opposite under the table.
What does Area 51, the Kennedy assasination and pro cycling have in common?
The myths about each far surpass the simple reality of each?
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Posted on 25-07-2008 21:27
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"The myths about each far surpass the simple reality of each?"
Yeah well, that too. I am just amazed at the size of the conspiracy if what you are saying is right. That Gusev was sacrifised to make it look like the anti doping programme is for real.
Almost seems easier to just go clean |
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Posted on 25-07-2008 21:30
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issoisso wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
I'd be interesting on Isso's knowledge on the matter though. He seems to have a slightly less blurred vision than some of us.
less blurred, I doubt it. different, no doubt. but if my vision is right, it's bleak. it involves many many teams pretending to fight doping and doing the opposite under the table.
less blurred = unlike some of us you don't chop and change your stance. You stick by your thoughts/knowledge/myths and don't sway from them when someone else says something that sounds cool or better than what you said.
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Posted on 25-07-2008 21:36
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jacknic wrote:
"The myths about each far surpass the simple reality of each?"
Yeah well, that too. I am just amazed at the size of the conspiracy if what you are saying is right. That Gusev was sacrifised to make it look like the anti doping programme is for real.
Almost seems easier to just go clean
I was joking 
When I'm joking, you'll usually see a  sign
Fact is, I don't trust Damsgaard, much less Bruyneel. I might if the samples were drawn by UCI officials, instead of Damsgaard's people, but even then not so much, as many riders caught doping have said many times that they can evade suprise controls because usually insiders from the WADA or UCI inform them that the controls will be happening and when.
Edited by issoisso on 25-07-2008 21:37
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Posted on 25-07-2008 21:38
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rjc_43 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
I'd be interesting on Isso's knowledge on the matter though. He seems to have a slightly less blurred vision than some of us.
less blurred, I doubt it. different, no doubt. but if my vision is right, it's bleak. it involves many many teams pretending to fight doping and doing the opposite under the table.
less blurred = unlike some of us you don't chop and change your stance. You stick by your thoughts/knowledge/myths and don't sway from them when someone else says something that sounds cool or better than what you said.
well, I do change opinion, if I think someone's viewpoint makes more sense than mine.
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Posted on 25-07-2008 22:00
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issoisso wrote:
jacknic wrote:
"The myths about each far surpass the simple reality of each?"
Yeah well, that too. I am just amazed at the size of the conspiracy if what you are saying is right. That Gusev was sacrifised to make it look like the anti doping programme is for real.
Almost seems easier to just go clean
I was joking
When I'm joking, you'll usually see a sign
Fact is, I don't trust Damsgaard, much less Bruyneel. I might if the samples were drawn by UCI officials, instead of Damsgaard's people, but even then not so much, as many riders caught doping have said many times that they can evade suprise controls because usually insiders from the WADA or UCI inform them that the controls will be happening and when.
The tests are drawn by UCI officials according to the latest publication of the results:
"Collection of tests has been carried out unannounced and in mainly out-of-competition (80% of all
tests). Urine and blood samples have been collected either by the UCI certified, independent
Stockholm-based anti-doping company, International Doping Test & Management or the German
based PWC."
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Posted on 25-07-2008 22:02
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maybe that's changed then, but it's not what was originally done, i can assure you of that.
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Posted on 26-07-2008 10:49
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damn it is just me or someone else..If Bruyneel something..like now about 0 tolerance about doping..I always start looking he's real goal for this act.
Example:
He would easily cover this up...why he did'nt?
Possibility..there is 50-50 chache that Gusev thing leak out..ok boys we have situation here. He is just sergant at my team..do it. This is good chanche to show them..how i "fight" against doping. |
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Posted on 26-06-2009 10:52
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New information has arisen on this case.
Apparently, when Riccò was caught by a new CERA test, Astana and Damsgaard "suddenly realised" that Gusev's blood values taken many months before showed he'd taken CERA....and he was suddenly fired.
Wow. What a coincidence 
Edited by issoisso on 26-06-2009 10:53
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Posted on 26-06-2009 11:29
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How shocking
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Posted on 26-06-2009 12:31
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Guido Mukk wrote:
damn it is just me or someone else..If Bruyneel something..like now about 0 tolerance about doping..I always start looking he's real goal for this act.
Example:
He would easily cover this up...why he did'nt?
Possibility..there is 50-50 chache that Gusev thing leak out..ok boys we have situation here. He is just sergant at my team..do it. This is good chanche to show them..how i "fight" against doping.
My german friend, your English is far from good though that is what I'm thinking too in your posts. |
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