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FreireCyanide
(edit : also got the same problem with the World DB...)

When a rider is in "no interest" state (red icon), you'll never be able to sign him. When a rider has an average interest (orange icon), then it need extra efforts to sign him...

I've made some tests and clearly there is something wrong with the PCM.Daily DB. Even with the latest intern code version (that is not in production) i have the problem on that while it works fine and as intented on the original DB.
Didn't try with the PCMWorldDB. => [EDIT]after a test i also have the same pb with World DB.

It could be an easy little bug on the DB (the scenario i'd prefer) or far worst : nothing wrong but just something more complex (i.e : a way of how you set the notes => could have an impact of all the formulas that leads to the way the code reacts). Sad
(at this point i don't know at all, it need further investigations).

This is in certain cases normal that a rider will have no interest for your team (this is what we wanted and what we have done), but when I tried with PCMDaily i had that behavior with riders that should be fine. For instance i have no problem to sign a rider like Fuglsang (on the normal db) while with Daily this

From both sides (players and developpers) it's a big frustration :
* As a player you're upset that the game has strange behavior (you think it's the game that is fucked)
* As a developper you're upset that players got problems you don't have and players are unhappy for a thing that you cannot directly test/fix.
It's one of our mid/long-term goal to try to understand and add more controls over the data's of Packs, but there are thousands way to fuck up the game's behavior's by tweaking everywhere the values.

Another strange (but minor) point : Jensies you talk about 500k€ as max whereas it's 250k€ (per month). even with PCM Daily db i don't have that. is it a specific tweak that i don't get?

If you have encoutered a "no intereest" with a majority of riders, that make impossible to get riders that should fit easily in your squad AND with another DB than Daily or original game DB, please tell us (with a decent team I mean...if you play with Fortuneo or Caja Rural, don't except to sign easily in 2018/2019 the stars...). Thanks
Edited by FreireCyanide on 01-08-2018 10:17
 
FreireCyanide
jensi251 wrote:
You can. The bar just never turns green, although it is full. I even tried 500k just as a test. No chance to sign these riders.
Maybe it is a PCM.daily DB only problem. I do not play with the default or other db´s.

Just to be clear in this case :
When one of the aspect has a red state, it's normal that the deal can't happen. (The idea behind that was that with the red icon, player will understand quite easily that it's a "no way" point, while orange is "ok but not ideal" and green is "oki doki"Wink

So the problem here is really that some riders should not give you a red state/no interest (as i explained on the previous message, seems to happen with PCMdaily db)
 
Infernoss
FreireCyanide wrote:
(edit : also got the same problem with the World DB...)

When a rider is in "no interest" state (red icon), you'll never be able to sign him. When a rider has an average interest (orange icon), then it need extra efforts to sign him...

I've made some tests and clearly there is something wrong with the PCM.Daily DB. Even with the latest intern code version (that is not in production) i have the problem on that while it works fine and as intented on the original DB.
Didn't try with the PCMWorldDB. => [EDIT]after a test i also have the same pb with World DB.

It could be an easy little bug on the DB (the scenario i'd prefer) or far worst : nothing wrong but just something more complex (i.e : a way of how you set the notes => could have an impact of all the formulas that leads to the way the code reacts). Sad
(at this point i don't know at all, it need further investigations).

This is in certain cases normal that a rider will have no interest for your team (this is what we wanted and what we have done), but when I tried with PCMDaily i had that behavior with riders that should be fine. For instance i have no problem to sign a rider like Fuglsang (on the normal db) while with Daily this

From both sides (players and developpers) it's a big frustration :
* As a player you're upset that the game has strange behavior (you think it's the game that is fucked)
* As a developper you're upset that players got problems you don't have and players are unhappy for a thing that you cannot directly test/fix.
It's one of our mid/long-term goal to try to understand and add more controls over the data's of Packs, but there are thousands way to fuck up the game's behavior's by tweaking everywhere the values.

Another strange (but minor) point : Jensies you talk about 500k€ as max whereas it's 250k€ (per month). even with PCM Daily db i don't have that. is it a specific tweak that i don't get?

If you have encoutered a "no intereest" with a majority of riders, that make impossible to get riders that should fit easily in your squad AND with another DB than Daily or original game DB, please tell us (with a decent team I mean...if you play with Fortuneo or Caja Rural, don't except to sign easily in 2018/2019 the stars...). Thanks


Thanks for the effort, that sucks. Means that it will be almost impossible to sign good riders also with World DB? So either I have to wait for a fix, use the normal DB or edit my save with the editor (which is kinda boring and cheating)?
 
FreireCyanide
The good news is that as it's a general major issue, no matter it happens only with custom DB's it's a main concern for us and be sure we'll not let that in this state.

Unlike some negative comments, we care and try to do our best to fix the problems, even if it's related to things that was not possible or at leat quite difficult to anticipate (it's already a huge amount of time to test the game with the original content, we cannot afford to try the game before the release with custom projects => we have to wait that the problems happens to see, understand and fix them). The reaility is that it's always more time-consummer to fix those problems when it's related to unexpected content/additional modifications.

For the solution before we work on a real fix (1st step is to understand why the feedbacks goes crazy, then working on the code to fix it), i have no advice at the moment. Trying to cheat directly in the save is also a risk for other vicious side-effects problems Embarassed
 
quadsas
I don't have this problem with Daily pack...only ones that have no interest to sign with me are guys who could be a leader for WT side (while I am playing as PCT top 10 team)
 
FreireCyanide
Thanks for your feedback quadsas. With WTT (playing Daily or PCMWorldDB) i can reproduce the pb. For some reasons maybe it's not as problematic as that when you play with a PCT or CT team.
 
Infernoss
FreireCyanide wrote:
The good news is that as it's a general major issue, no matter it happens only with custom DB's it's a main concern for us and be sure we'll not let that in this state.

Unlike some negative comments, we care and try to do our best to fix the problems, even if it's related to things that was not possible or at leat quite difficult to anticipate (it's already a huge amount of time to test the game with the original content, we cannot afford to try the game before the release with custom projects => we have to wait that the problems happens to see, understand and fix them). The reaility is that it's always more time-consummer to fix those problems when it's related to unexpected content/additional modifications.

For the solution before we work on a real fix (1st step is to understand why the feedbacks goes crazy, then working on the code to fix it), i have no advice at the moment. Trying to cheat directly in the save is also a risk for other vicious side-effects problems Embarassed


Oke thanks. I am going to test it tonight aswell with my save. See if I have any major problems. Then maybe I should start a new save, and finish this save when the problems are fixed.

EDIT: Just simulated untill 1 august. And I have no problems with the transfers and signing riders. Managed for example to get Kelderman. Only had the issue that for the real topriders I just got 2 chances to do an offer and it got rejected. But in general it seems to work. Only thing which I dont understand is sponsor offers. What does max means? Is that what you can get in a few years when you fullfill their sponsor goals?
Edited by Infernoss on 01-08-2018 21:28
 
FreireCyanide
Fast answer because have to leave : we finally found & fix the problem. QA will double check the fix and a beta should arrive at the beginning of the next week.

It happened mainly with modified DB's but also with original DB if you play with a custom team Sad and could happened also with the original DB later in the game (after several years).
 
jensi251
Nice. Career mode finally gets playable for multiple seasons. Does the fix work for running careers or do we have to start a new one.

Thank you Freire
 
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FreireCyanide
Fix will work for running careers.

"What does max means? Is that what you can get in a few years when you fullfill their sponsor goals?" => This is indeed what a sponsor can offer (more or less Pfft) when everything goes fine after 1 or several years (depend a bit how far you are from this max).
 
TiemenD
This is great news, thank you Smile
 
Anders2002
has the new beta fix been released or shall we wait a little longer
 
Thatguyeveryonehates
yes the 1.0.3.3 beta patch has the fix

but remember its beta so it might not work properly
 
Anders2002
Okay thank you
 
Anders2002
i have tried to download the new beta patch, but it wont let me do it because its asking me for a "CODE"

Anyone who knows what that code is or what i should do.

Edit: Never mind have found a solution
 
stealingsilver
Thanks So Much for your hard work!
 
stealingsilver
Thanks So Much for your hard work!
 
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