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PCT Roundtable analysis p/b “The Conglomerate”
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| Vien |
Posted on 24-10-2017 21:59
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Looks like I got something to read at work tomorrow  Well done! |
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 24-10-2017 22:29
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That was a cool read. Really appreciate the effort you guys put into it. Well done!
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 24-10-2017 22:39
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Wasn't sure if i was reading Kraftwerk or Podium Ambition preview at times 
Cracking stuff, really the stand out preview of the year, and probbably the last couple of years.
Podium Ambition garnering more mixed opinion and prediction, as we have done all pre-season. Ranging from promotion fighters to just avoiding relegation. Not a clue where we will end up.
A lot of comparision to Strava. Well, as i never paid much attention to Strava's planning it's purely coincidence. Happy that someone noticed Yates isn't useless if not particularly noteworthy. Lot of thoughts that Talanksy is overpaid at his wage, but he fitted neatly into the team to provide some sort of uphill scoring when very few options were left on the table. I reckon people might be surprised by his freelance style this season.
Overall comments were positive on the team, burying us right into the middle of the pack. That'll do very happily as we develop Ewan + Yates to max, whilst also leveling up a raft of other youngsters. Marcus and Talansky fill in the saftey gap for 2017, but it's very much a team built around 2018 and beyond.
Oh, and i saw you call us Podium Girls! You weren't sneaking that past these eagle eyes...
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 24-10-2017 23:04
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Have to say I definitely agree with what was said about my team. My regional focus really limited me, and I tried to sign Liu to develop into my new sprint leader, but that didn't work out. By that point it was a little late to really improve my team, and I had to look outside my focus to kind of ensure I stay out of the relegation zone (imo). Looking at it now I really hope I can promote, but that will be difficult.
Edit: and ofc I forgot, but amazing preview. Really enjoyable read!
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 24-10-2017 23:05
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Excellent thread all, well done! Always good to read some more opinionated analysis, particularly given the good variety amongst them.
And thanks to Abhisek, Eritel have a pretty wide range of predictions - all threads considered.
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 24-10-2017 23:19
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Outstanding! Thanks so very much for all the work that has gone into this. Fantastic stuff!
Great content, engaging style, interesting read and some kind words for Kraftwerk, thanks.
As for the Flügel disappointment, yes I was certainly disappointed to see his PCT competition this season and we can expect a big drop in points from him. I rated him 6th best Hills in PCT and have lowered my expectations, if he can make some top 5s I will be happy. Our goal races are going to be nerve racking affairs that's for sure 
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 25-10-2017 06:11
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Nice, haven’t got trough it all, but this is a perfect way to make a prew. Impressive.
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| Bjartne |
Posted on 25-10-2017 10:01
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Wow, this was a fantastic read guys! I really really hope this is going to be implemented on a yearly basis, cause this was just awesome! |
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| knockout |
Posted on 25-10-2017 10:11
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Thanks everyone for the kind words
matt17br wrote:
Ok so first of all this is some very, very nice work.
A less popular call: Primož Roglič. He received a very expensive training this offseason but i don’t think it will change a lot. He still is not good enough to compete with the best in mountains (and hills) and there are plenty of other riders for the hybrid profiles. Lots of similar riders like Kwiatek, Roche, Barguil or Schelling around and also the top specialists might go against him in those races. I believe that matt will have hoped for a far bigger effect of the training.
Second of all! Don't even dare to touch Roglic  Sure, he might not manage to score as much as Kwiat or Roche by the end of the year, though I'd argue he's certainly above Schelling, but last year with 2 less points in MO he did score 350 points.
With a team that is pretty much built to just have him carried in the odd 2 or 3 TTTs he'll face, a noticeably less strong PCT under a climbers point of view compared to last year, I absolutely see him increase his point tally to around 525 and I don't think I'm being delusional, with a higher best case scenario. Anything above 500 will have been worth the training frankly, since everything I want from him is to lead us to direct promotion hopefully. He won't really take part in many hilly races either if that was a concern, I believe Strade Bianche is his only one just to fill his RDs.
My concern is that he isn't good enough to compete with the bests on the mountains and not good enough to compete with the bests in the hills. That he only will shine in the races in between. I also see him coming close to the 525 points with good planning but I think he has abhigher chance to stay far under that number than getting far above it. His niche is small and one blown hybrid race could already be enough to make him miss that points number making him a disappointment.
Spoiler Also I wanted to give a bit provocative answer for the question after going with the obvious answers for many other questions and Roglic was a good candidate for it 
A Big Thank You To All MG Reporters! |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 25-10-2017 12:58
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Wow, this preview nearly made me want to be PCT again just to be included in it!
Great initiative, impressive execution. Thank you to everyone involved!
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| Shonak |
Posted on 18-11-2017 15:17
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Late to the party but finally got some time to read all of the preview. Great job guys and props to croatia for organizing it. So many great teams in PCT this season, it sure is/will be fun to follow now and then, just hoping that the AI gets better soon.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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