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Power calculations (Watts) in cycling
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| Ashton89 |
Posted on 30-05-2008 14:33
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Aquarius wrote:
Yes, that's very likely. They're not stupid. They know some of their riders are on dope. Legally they can claim they didn't know, they trust their riders, etc. but that is/would be fooling us.
Rasmussen was a blatant example. Trusting people has or should have some limit when the people in question are :
1) pro cyclists
2) potential TDF winner
3) man in black (= working with the suspicious doctor Ferrari)
4) having a dopehead reputation since his MTB days
5) trying not to be disturbed during a period that would be optimal to take dope in the perspective of the Tour de France.
Claiming they blindly trusted him is pure hypocrisy.
I agree with you 100% .. And an indication of it (that someone or the whole team knew it) could be that Rabobank (the bank) fired the team manager right after TdF 2007.. |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 30-05-2008 14:37
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issoisso wrote:
t-baum wrote:
issoisso wrote:
t-baum wrote:
everyone else is doped by your logic.
are you high or just making stuff up for kicks?
You called someone who died a doper right after he died...
1. that never happened.
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2. if that had happened, how would that even remotely translate to "everyone is doped" ?
You think everyone is doped.
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"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race." |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-05-2008 14:42
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t-baum wrote:
You think everyone is doped.
that's an incredibly narrow-minded generalization by someone who doesn't know me and who apparently never reads my posts.
either you're trying to rattle me, or you're not very smart. either way, generalizations aren't the way to go at all. if I though all riders were doped, I probably wouldn't watch cycling at all and I certainly wouldn't be cheering for anyone right now.
either way, saying something like that without any basis for it other than you just thought it up, is hurtful
Edited by issoisso on 30-05-2008 14:43
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| t-baum |
Posted on 30-05-2008 14:47
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Did you know gullible isn't in the dictionary?
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-05-2008 14:49
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and by that, you mean? |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 30-05-2008 14:50
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God you walked right into that one.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| Xavier |
Posted on 30-05-2008 14:51
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rofl  great one |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-05-2008 14:53
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t-baum wrote:
God you walked right into that one.
english isn't my first, second or third language. what's your excuse?
so, the analogy with you cheering when someone beats handicapped people makes even more sense now.
in short: you're an idiot who generalizes at will.
this forum needs an ignore function |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 30-05-2008 14:57
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issoisso wrote:
t-baum wrote:
God you walked right into that one.
english isn't my first, second or third language. what's your excuse?
so, the analogy with you cheering when someone beats handicapped people makes even more sense now.
in short: you're an idiot who generalizes at will.
this forum needs an ignore function
Google the word and you'll understand.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-05-2008 15:06
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I know what the word means. I still don't get what your expression meant.
and you know what? I don't care. take your biased bigoted babble somewhere else  |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 30-05-2008 15:15
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Lets just say when im bored, your the first person that comes to mind
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| alex153 |
Posted on 30-05-2008 15:37
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t-baum wrote:
Lets just say when im bored, your the first person that comes to mind
Since you complain about other people's english.......your? |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 30-05-2008 15:41
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alex153 wrote:
t-baum wrote:
Lets just say when im bored, your the first person that comes to mind
Since you complain about other people's english.......your?
I dontt wante parfuct anglish butt sum decnt langugae wold b grat
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 30-05-2008 15:44
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I sometimes feel I'm disturbing the topics I'm posting in when I come in about dope or Watts, but at the moment I'm feeling disturbed by other things than Watts and dope.
How ironic. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 30-05-2008 15:45
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End of this discussion, it's really useless. English people have to understand that this forum consists of non-natural English speakers, so it's really a waste of time to start discussing whether one knows a word or not.
And by that, back to topic. |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 30-05-2008 15:51
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CrueTrue wrote:
End of this discussion, it's really useless. English people have to understand that this forum consists of non-natural English speakers, so it's really a waste of time to start discussing whether one knows a word or not.
And by that, back to topic.
I'd like you to understand he is American not English. That's enough dragging down the English when we haven't done anything, thank you
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-05-2008 15:54
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Addy291 wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
End of this discussion, it's really useless. English people have to understand that this forum consists of non-natural English speakers, so it's really a waste of time to start discussing whether one knows a word or not.
And by that, back to topic.
I'd like you to understand he is American not English. That's enough dragging down the English when we haven't done anything, thank you
we don't drag down the english here. we drag down all brits 
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 30-05-2008 15:56
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Aquarius? He's for sure not a Brit |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-05-2008 15:57
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CrueTrue wrote:
Aquarius? He's for sure not a Brit
Oh, but I guarantee he is. |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 30-05-2008 15:59
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The English can't get lower, so we can't be dragged down B)
Anyway, back on topic, wattages are a great way to highlight probable doping, as they are the one thing which cannot be masked.
I'm not saying high wattages = doped, by no means, I just mean that wattages are a decent indication. Interesting stuff Aquarius
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