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Yukihiro Doi at the Tour de France
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
i've done one more stage so this will be shown with all the old mistakes

but for my next ones, where is the tab button?


Just above the Caps Lock-key, on my keyboard that is
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wackojackohighcliffe
thanks
 
wackojackohighcliffe
Langkawi Stage 3

Again, a flat stage where we would probably go for the win with Robert 'Waggy' Wagner.

The break moved off in search of a stage victory but with the bunch in a very vigilant mood (they had pulled back three breakaway attempts before one was finally allowed to succeed) I doubted they would get very far.

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Doomed?

My predictions were right as they were pulled in with 40 k of the stage left to ride. I had been daydreaming for a while but I was woken by our directeur sportif telling Clement l'Hotellerie to have a dig.

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l'Hotellerie on the charge

I was on tenterhooks waiting for information and instructions from the team car. With the peloton riding at an unusually docile pace, a voice came screaming through the earpiece telling me to 'go, go, go!'.

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Trying to bridge


I tried to catch Clement and drive to the finish but I couldn't quite reach him and ended up 2nd at the finish. The manager was ecstatic after 3 2nd places and finally a win.

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The chequered flag!

A good day as I moved up to 2nd on GC and increased my lead over the climbers.

A GC update:
Rank Name Team Time
1 Tiziano Dall'Antonia CSF Group - Navigare 13h06'36
2 Yukihiro Doi Skil - Shimano + 23
3 Clément Lhotellerie Skil - Shimano + 25
4 David Herrero Karpin Galicia s.t.
5 Robert Wagner Skil - Shimano + 27
6 Xavi Florencio Bouygues Télécom + 31
7 Pierre Rolland Crédit Agricole s.t.
8 Pavel Brutt Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
9 Alexander Gottfried Tinkoff Credit Systems + 32
10 Takashi Miyazawa Meitan Hompo - GDR + 34
11 Patrice Halgand Crédit Agricole + 35
12 Pierrick Fédrigo Bouygues Télécom s.t.
13 Gene Bates Drapac Porsche Development Program s.t.
14 John Gadret AG2R - La Mondiale s.t.
15 Roger Beuchat Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
16 Marco Frapporti CSF Group - Navigare s.t.
17 Jonathan Hivert Crédit Agricole s.t.
18 Santo Anzà Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
19 Volodymyr Zagorodny NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte s.t.
20 Alexander Serov Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
21 Gilberto Simoni Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
22 Mathieu Sprick Bouygues Télécom s.t.
23 Amin Saryana LeTua Cycling Team s.t.
24 Silvère Ackermann NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte s.t.
25 Stefan Trafelet NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte s.t.
26 Alexander Khatuntsev Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
27 Evgeni Petrov Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
28 Floris Goesinnen Skil - Shimano s.t.
29 Mashahiro Shinagawa Skil - Shimano s.t.
30 Julien Simon Crédit Agricole s.t.
31 Pip Grinter Drapac Porsche Development Program s.t.
32 Johann Tschopp Bouygues Télécom s.t.
33 Koji Fukushima Meitan Hompo - GDR s.t.
34 Ezequiel Mosquera Karpin Galicia s.t.
35 Laurent Lefèvre Bouygues Télécom s.t.
36 Masaaki Kikuchi Meitan Hompo - GDR s.t.
37 Philip Deignan AG2R - La Mondiale s.t.
38 Philip Thuaux Drapac Porsche Development Program s.t.
39 Niklas Axelsson Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
40 Emanuele Sella CSF Group - Navigare s.t.
41 Luis Felipe Laverde CSF Group - Navigare s.t.
42 Yin Chih Wang Meitan Hompo - GDR s.t.
43 Stef Clement Bouygues Télécom s.t.
44 Stéphane Goubert AG2R - La Mondiale s.t.
45 Thierry Hupond Skil - Shimano s.t.
46 Dean Windsor Drapac Porsche Development Program + 1'54
47 Francesco Tizza NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte + 1'55
48 Roberto Traficante Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli + 2'48
49 Christophe Le Mével Crédit Agricole s.t.
50 Hubert Dupont AG2R - La Mondiale + 2'59
51 Walter Pedraza Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
52 Filippo Savini CSF Group - Navigare + 4'42
53 Juan Mourón Karpin Galicia + 4'59
54 Khairuz Ghani LeTua Cycling Team + 5'12
55 Leonardo Moser Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli + 5'30
56 Eduard Vorganov Karpin Galicia + 6'02
57 Kazuya Okazaki Meitan Hompo - GDR + 6'42
58 Dimitri Fofonov Crédit Agricole + 7'14
59 Simon Clarke SouthAustralia.com - AIS + 9'36
60 Sylvain Calzati AG2R - La Mondiale + 9'44
61 Christophe Riblon AG2R - La Mondiale + 10'57
62 Delio Fernández Karpin Galicia + 11'50
63 Ji Wen Low LeTua Cycling Team + 11'55
64 Yong Li Ng Meitan Hompo - GDR + 12'04
65 Bruno Rizzi NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte + 12'49
66 Serafín Martínez Karpin Galicia + 13'54
67 Casey Munro Drapac Porsche Development Program + 15'01
68 Julio Alberto Pérez Cuapio CSF Group - Navigare + 15'04
69 Mark O'Brien Drapac Porsche Development Program + 16'19
70 Alessio Signego NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte + 26'35
71 Asril Rahman LeTua Cycling Team + 28'23

See you tommorow,

Doi
 
stuartmcstuart
Would be good to get a stage result list as well as the GC. A good start for Doi though. Wink
 
wackojackohighcliffe
I was thinking of only doing that for important stages stuart but if thats what you want i'll add that in on my second one from now
 
wackojackohighcliffe
Langkawi Stage 4

Another flat stage!!!Frown

The break wasted itself again. On stages like this I think it's kind of pointless; with some rolling hills or some climbs they've got a chance.

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Ng, Saffayet and Low in the break

With the final intermediate sprint in sight and the break back in the pack I spied a chance to steal some crucial bonus second and went on the charge.

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Could this decide the tour?

I swept up the three seconds on offer and the sprint points to steal some extra GC places.

Clement gave Waggy an outrageously strong leadout and gave him a great set up for the sprint with 3k to go.

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l'Hotellerie has only Wagner in his wake

With Clement still leading with 1k to go but fading fast Waggy jumped on the left-hand side of the road.

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For the victory?

He showed his sprinting prowess by leaving the rest out of his slipstream and he stormed to the win!

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Two stages for Skil-Shimano

Rob was ecstatic after the victory and was almost kissing Clement for such a superb lead-out (he is an amazingly strong rider). Clement faded to 11th showing how much energy he put in after leading out for 5k!
More bonus seconds for me meant a good day all round for the team.

Doi

Stage results will be included in reports from now on Smile
 
E_Hagen
I want all the teams stats.
 
wackojackohighcliffe
one rider story Smile
 
wackojackohighcliffe
Tour de Langkawi Stage 5

Another flat stage, the same boring tactics.

I attacked hard and early, aiming for the first sprint and three precious bonus seconds.

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In pursuit of glory

I got what I wanted and settled back into the pack.

A lone rider jumped away to try and take the honours.

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All alone in Malaysia

I still attacked for the second sprint even though there were only 2 seconds on offer.

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Shaving off time

I took them and branded the day a good one, 5 seconds gained on the likely lads for the overall.

The break looked to be the likely winner at one point but soon cracked and fell back into the fold of the peloton.

I was beggining to fade and the days toils were taking their toll on me. But I hung on in grimly, thanks to great help from Thierry Hupond, and managed to stay with the leaders.

Clement led out again and did a fantastic job.

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A future star leads a future star

Waggy swept past Clement and into the lead.

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Flashing past

He was flying and simply crushed the opposition into submission with the speed of a flat-out cheetah.

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Turbospeed

What a superb victory!!!

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Wagner wins again

Everyone representing us here in Malaysia is over the moon and these victories have given Waggy a great confidence boost as well as demoralising his opponents. Everythings coming up roses!

Doi

Sorry, I forgot to export Grin
 
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Team Bonding

Over this tour I've really made stronger bonds with my team-mates and feel more accepted by them.

Robert 'Waggy' Wagner: My best european friend on the team and I personally think him the teams biggest sprinting talent. He is a wonderful guy; always willing to give his opinion but always willing to accept others. I'm going to train with him a lot this season to increase his endurance and climbing and my top-end speed.

Clement l'Hottellerie: A tremendously talented rider but a bit less open with the rest of the team. He's so closed off that I think there might be something fishy going on there. But don't tell anyone. I would speak out but I dont have any proof and wouldn't want to cause any disruption in the team, especially with my Paris-Nice place at stake.

Floris Goessinnen: Overshadowed by other riders but does a lot of good work behind the scenes. Friendly chap who helped me out financially when I was struggling with rent in June last year. I owe the guy a favour.

Thierry Hupond: A hard worker and a good stage racer to be.

Sanataki Shinawaga: To be a good sprinter, capable of winnig some smaller races, including stages of the TOJ(Tour of Japan). My brother-in-law, I married his older sister, and I hope to be able to help him through a tough first pro season.

I'll give updates like this later in the year when I've raced with other riders in the team.

Piet Hoekstra (Directeur Sportif): A really nice man who passes on lots of racing tips and gave me my first chance as leader in Langkawi this year. He is a very warm person and I feel a special bond with him.

Doi
 
wackojackohighcliffe
Tour de Langkawi Stage 5

The monotony of these stages are nearly unbearable. Thankfully, Piet wires our earpieces into a radio station so we have something good to listen to. At the moment we're listening to Radio. They have an obsession with the song Rockstar.

Calzati, Ghani and Trafelet jumped away early in the stage, looking for todays spoils.

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Bounty-hunters

They quickly built up a lead, working very hard. I thought that maybe they were over-egging it somewhat.

I was feeling comfortable in the pack, who were going at a remarkably slow pace.

The gap built to 15 minutes before starting to drop. But with 60k to go the gap was 11"27. I figured the breakaway would fight it out for the win today.

I still thought that, with 34k to go and the gap at 7"48, the break would stay away. However, I was soon proved wrong. The riders up front cracked and 8k later the gap was down to 3"36. Finally, with 19k to go, Sylvain Calzati was reeled in by the bunch,

Clement provided another superb leadout but this time, with a lot of sprinters tired by a hard chase, I tried to follow the sprinters.

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Pulling Wagner to victory

Waggy opened up his sprint early and it seemed to possible that Gottfried might overtake him. I'm in 4th wheel, just out of the picture.

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Not unbeatable?

But Rob held on to take a hat-trick of stage wins and, ultimately, the yellow leaders jersey.

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Unbeatable!

I'm over the moon with my performance and have taken more precious seconds from the others.

Stage Results:
Rank Name Team Time
1 Robert Wagner Skil - Shimano 4h38'08
2 David Herrero Karpin Galicia s.t.
3 Yukihiro Doi Skil - Shimano s.t.
4 Gene Bates Drapac Porsche Development Program s.t.
5 Patrice Halgand Crédit Agricole s.t.
6 Marco Frapporti CSF Group - Navigare s.t.
7 Takashi Miyazawa Meitan Hompo - GDR s.t.
8 Clément Lhotellerie Skil - Shimano s.t.
9 Tiziano Dall'Antonia CSF Group - Navigare s.t.
10 John Gadret AG2R - La Mondiale s.t.
11 Pierrick Fédrigo Bouygues Télécom s.t.
12 Alexander Gottfried Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
13 Volodymyr Zagorodny NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte s.t.
14 Xavi Florencio Bouygues Télécom s.t.
15 Pierre Rolland Crédit Agricole s.t.
16 Philip Thuaux Drapac Porsche Development Program s.t.
17 Alexander Serov Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
18 Thierry Hupond Skil - Shimano s.t.
19 Amin Saryana LeTua Cycling Team s.t.
20 Roger Beuchat Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
21 Christophe Riblon AG2R - La Mondiale s.t.
22 Dimitri Fofonov Crédit Agricole s.t.
23 Juan Mourón Karpin Galicia s.t.
24 Hubert Dupont AG2R - La Mondiale s.t.
25 Santo Anzà Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
26 Pavel Brutt Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
27 Mark O'Brien Drapac Porsche Development Program s.t.
28 Mathieu Sprick Bouygues Télécom s.t.
29 Johann Tschopp Bouygues Télécom s.t.
30 Delio Fernández Karpin Galicia s.t.
31 Alexander Khatuntsev Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
32 Eduard Vorganov Karpin Galicia s.t.
33 Jonathan Hivert Crédit Agricole s.t.
34 Masaaki Kikuchi Meitan Hompo - GDR s.t.
35 Roberto Traficante Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
36 Mashahiro Shinagawa Skil - Shimano s.t.
37 Casey Munro Drapac Porsche Development Program s.t.
38 Julio Alberto Pérez Cuapio CSF Group - Navigare s.t.
39 Julien Simon Crédit Agricole s.t.
40 Walter Pedraza Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
41 Laurent Lefèvre Bouygues Télécom s.t.
42 Ezequiel Mosquera Karpin Galicia s.t.
43 Kazuya Okazaki Meitan Hompo - GDR s.t.
44 Philip Deignan AG2R - La Mondiale s.t.
45 Gilberto Simoni Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
46 Stef Clement Bouygues Télécom s.t.
47 Leonardo Moser Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
48 Koji Fukushima Meitan Hompo - GDR s.t.
49 Niklas Axelsson Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
50 Pip Grinter Drapac Porsche Development Program s.t.
51 Dean Windsor Drapac Porsche Development Program s.t.
52 Evgeni Petrov Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
53 Luis Felipe Laverde CSF Group - Navigare s.t.
54 Emanuele Sella CSF Group - Navigare s.t.
55 Francesco Tizza NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte s.t.
56 Christophe Le Mével Crédit Agricole s.t.
57 Serafín Martínez Karpin Galicia s.t.
58 Filippo Savini CSF Group - Navigare s.t.
59 Yin Chih Wang Meitan Hompo - GDR s.t.
60 Yong Li Ng Meitan Hompo - GDR s.t.
61 Bruno Rizzi NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte s.t.
62 Floris Goesinnen Skil - Shimano s.t.
63 Alessio Signego NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte s.t.
64 Silvère Ackermann NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte s.t.
65 Ji Wen Low LeTua Cycling Team s.t.
66 Stéphane Goubert AG2R - La Mondiale s.t.
67 Asril Rahman LeTua Cycling Team s.t.
68 Sylvain Calzati AG2R - La Mondiale + 9'49
69 Stefan Trafelet NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte + 10'37
70 Khairuz Ghani LeTua Cycling Team + 17'33
71 Simon Clarke SouthAustralia.com - AIS + 19'01

GC:
Rank Name Team Time
1 Robert Wagner Skil - Shimano 25h02'26
2 Tiziano Dall'Antonia CSF Group - Navigare s.t.
3 Yukihiro Doi Skil - Shimano + 14
4 Alexander Gottfried Tinkoff Credit Systems + 21
5 David Herrero Karpin Galicia + 22
6 Clément Lhotellerie Skil - Shimano + 28
7 Xavi Florencio Bouygues Télécom s.t.
8 Patrice Halgand Crédit Agricole + 32
9 Pierre Rolland Crédit Agricole + 34
10 Pavel Brutt Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
11 Takashi Miyazawa Meitan Hompo - GDR + 36
12 Marco Frapporti CSF Group - Navigare + 38
13 Gene Bates Drapac Porsche Development Program s.t.
14 Pierrick Fédrigo Bouygues Télécom s.t.
15 John Gadret AG2R - La Mondiale s.t.
16 Volodymyr Zagorodny NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte s.t.
17 Roger Beuchat Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
18 Philip Thuaux Drapac Porsche Development Program s.t.
19 Amin Saryana LeTua Cycling Team s.t.
20 Santo Anzà Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
21 Jonathan Hivert Crédit Agricole s.t.
22 Alexander Serov Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
23 Johann Tschopp Bouygues Télécom s.t.
24 Alexander Khatuntsev Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
25 Mathieu Sprick Bouygues Télécom s.t.
26 Mashahiro Shinagawa Skil - Shimano s.t.
27 Thierry Hupond Skil - Shimano s.t.
28 Masaaki Kikuchi Meitan Hompo - GDR s.t.
29 Gilberto Simoni Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
30 Julien Simon Crédit Agricole s.t.
31 Laurent Lefèvre Bouygues Télécom s.t.
32 Ezequiel Mosquera Karpin Galicia s.t.
33 Evgeni Petrov Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
34 Niklas Axelsson Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli s.t.
35 Koji Fukushima Meitan Hompo - GDR s.t.
36 Philip Deignan AG2R - La Mondiale s.t.
37 Stef Clement Bouygues Télécom s.t.
38 Pip Grinter Drapac Porsche Development Program s.t.
39 Emanuele Sella CSF Group - Navigare s.t.
40 Luis Felipe Laverde CSF Group - Navigare s.t.
41 Silvère Ackermann NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte s.t.
42 Floris Goesinnen Skil - Shimano s.t.
43 Yin Chih Wang Meitan Hompo - GDR s.t.
44 Stéphane Goubert AG2R - La Mondiale s.t.
45 Dean Windsor Drapac Porsche Development Program + 1'57
46 Francesco Tizza NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte + 1'58
47 Roberto Traficante Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli + 2'51
48 Christophe Le Mével Crédit Agricole s.t.
49 Hubert Dupont AG2R - La Mondiale + 3'02
50 Walter Pedraza Tinkoff Credit Systems s.t.
51 Filippo Savini CSF Group - Navigare + 4'45
52 Juan Mourón Karpin Galicia + 5'02
53 Leonardo Moser Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni - Androni Giocattoli + 5'33
54 Eduard Vorganov Karpin Galicia + 6'05
55 Kazuya Okazaki Meitan Hompo - GDR + 6'45
56 Dimitri Fofonov Crédit Agricole + 7'17
57 Christophe Riblon AG2R - La Mondiale + 11'00
58 Delio Fernández Karpin Galicia + 11'53
59 Bruno Rizzi NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte + 12'52
60 Casey Munro Drapac Porsche Development Program + 15'04
61 Julio Alberto Pérez Cuapio CSF Group - Navigare + 15'07
62 Serafín Martínez Karpin Galicia + 17'34
63 Sylvain Calzati AG2R - La Mondiale + 19'32
64 Stefan Trafelet NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte + 21'54
65 Khairuz Ghani LeTua Cycling Team + 22'46
66 Yong Li Ng Meitan Hompo - GDR + 24'15
67 Ji Wen Low LeTua Cycling Team + 25'58
68 Asril Rahman LeTua Cycling Team + 28'26
69 Alessio Signego NGC Medical - OTC Industria Porte + 30'49
70 Mark O'Brien Drapac Porsche Development Program + 36'49
71 Simon Clarke SouthAustralia.com - AIS + 49'07


One more stage until the mountains. Apprehension reigns.

Doi
 
wackojackohighcliffe
Tour de Langkawi Stage 6

I'm don't have much time to report today as I have big tactical discussions and an early bedtime:lol:.

Riblon went from the gun.

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He was easily pulled back though and the superhuman Clement lead out again! I chose to try and gain more time by beating the sprinters again as I'm feeling good today.

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Waggy charged past early and I tried to get onto his wheel.

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Thanks to killing myself to get into his slipstream while he opened a massive gap, I could not be passed.

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Waggy took another slice of glory along with the points jersey and lead in the season victories ranking while I hung on to second.

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Live reports tommorow!

Doi
 
schleck93
Great results by skilShock, and great story to.
BenBarnes wrote:
Thor wears a live rattlesnake as a condom.
 
wackojackohighcliffe
thanks Grin
I hope the game has stabilised as it tends to crash a lot.

I think Wagner is gonna get a big stats boost now and i just noticed his form is somehow 93!Shock

Plus sprinting is one of my best qualities(im a crap long distance tter)
 
K-A
Really like your story Smile
But it would be great with stage results after every stageWink...
 
wackojackohighcliffe
my mistake
i was in a rush

bad memory you knowWink
 
fefj
i enjoy this story a lot ! looking forward to the mountains Grin
 
SotD
I also enjoy the story, though it seems to me that you should really take a tougher level... It should be an amazing feeling when you win with those kind of riders, not an everyday move.
 
ladagnous
what is wagner sprint rating or his he in really good form
 
Deadpool
he already noted wagner is at 93 form
 
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