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| Addy291 |
Posted on 06-05-2008 17:45
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turismo wrote:
One down. Who else is going to try to justify ripping off CTV's feeds?
It's free, no more needed to be said really. Although issoisso/FullMetalNeckTie's point should be listened to and given the highest attention and respect due to the fact cycling.tv ripped him off.
Edited by Addy291 on 06-05-2008 17:54
YORKSHIRE BORN, YORKSHIRE BRED... |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 06-05-2008 19:20
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Oh this is a fun topic.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race." |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 06-05-2008 19:21
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Oh this is a fun topic.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| stuartmcstuart |
Posted on 07-05-2008 00:49
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Look what you started T-Baum, the world's most boring ethical debate 
I'm just going to confirm what I and several other people have already said: If the security on the site is soooo poor theres several ways of obtaining the stream for free, what do you expect? 
If cycling.tv are losing money, then they really ought to try harder to protect their investment. If I left my bike unlocked outside my house, and someone steals it, whose fault is it? My own, for not taking the right precautions! Its so simple! |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 07-05-2008 00:53
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stuartmcstuart wrote:
Look what you started T-Baum, the world's most boring ethical debate
I'm just going to confirm what I and several other people have already said: If the security on the site is soooo poor theres several ways of obtaining the stream for free, what do you expect?
If cycling.tv are losing money, then they really ought to try harder to protect their investment. If I left my bike unlocked outside my house, and someone steals it, whose fault is it? My own, for not taking the right precautions! Its so simple!
Completely agreed |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 07-05-2008 04:01
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Deadpool wrote:
stuartmcstuart wrote:
Look what you started T-Baum, the world's most boring ethical debate
I'm just going to confirm what I and several other people have already said: If the security on the site is soooo poor theres several ways of obtaining the stream for free, what do you expect?
If cycling.tv are losing money, then they really ought to try harder to protect their investment. If I left my bike unlocked outside my house, and someone steals it, whose fault is it? My own, for not taking the right precautions! Its so simple!
Completely agreed
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Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 07-05-2008 07:41
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agreed again
and surely they do make a profit by charging you and still putting bountiful amounts of adverts on the coverage and website
i'm sure thats just a favour they're doing for cervelo et al
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| brun sweater |
Posted on 07-05-2008 09:17
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lol 
I steal Cycling.tv's stream as well, if all I have to do is write an adress in my browser. But that really doesn't justify me stealing it. I think though that Cycling.tv really doesn't care, because many of those races I wouldn't be able to see even if i payed, simply because it's north america only, due to some other company have the exclusives in my country. I can also watch football through chinese internet television, and in that case I guess I'm stealing from some TV company having the rights in my country. Often though, I've already payed those TV companies, I just don't get to choose what to watch in my household, so is that stealing?
Then there's the whole issue of copyright of digital codes! In my view it's kind of old fashioned to treat digital material as were it butter and bacon, or gold and oil. Mainly because the number of copies doesn't affect the prize at all. But that's a very complicated discussion, and can be found elsewhere on the web.
But the short version is, I can't jusify me using those services, I have not payed to use. But frankly, and this is what it all comes down to. I don't give a crap. |
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| Smitho |
Posted on 07-05-2008 14:51
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wheyyyy |
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| Smitho |
Posted on 07-05-2008 20:43
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Put it this way would you rather have something free for pay quite abit of money on it!!! when you can use that money 2 ge tthe new pcm |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 07-05-2008 21:38
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wow I missed that debate completly..I have payed for cycling tv. anyhow they dont have liked my laptop and internet connection later..
question is..many companies should I need to pay to see cycling? |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 07-05-2008 22:27
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Guido Mukk wrote:
wow I missed that debate completly..I have payed for cycling tv. anyhow they dont have liked my laptop and internet connection later..
question is..many companies should I need to pay to see cycling?
Is it just me, or the only people having problems are those paid for it?
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 08-05-2008 09:21
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That's what''s so ironic about all this
I mean, even the ones who pay for it use the "illegal" links 
Edited by CrueTrue on 08-05-2008 09:21
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| Il Grillo |
Posted on 12-05-2008 14:25
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seems like the link is down again...then i am watching stupid eurosport. |
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| rodda |
Posted on 12-05-2008 14:39
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why the hell do they bother making it north america + paying only it used to be awesome last year ..
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 12-05-2008 14:54
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Just look in the Giro thread for live feeds |
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| turismo |
Posted on 12-05-2008 15:01
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issoisso wrote:
turismo wrote:
One down. Who else is going to try to justify ripping off CTV's feeds?
I paid for it and it rarely ever works on this PC, the laptop, my neighbour's, the other laptop, or the PC at work (just so you know it's not the PC's or the connection's fault).
Usually I get an error, or some stupid error that logs me out automatically, the video on demand seems to be unavailable most of the time when it should be, the transmissions, when I get to watch them are always late.
So, if you really want them to justify stealing the feed, first justify to me why you took my money and provide a service that is far below common standard in availability (not to mention the frustrating lack of usability of the site)
I await your typical "divert the issue and agressively answer nothing-at-all" response.
Aggressively answer "nothing-at-all"? I thought I was asking questions, not answering.
As for your request: Technical support is available from . If you buy something and it doesn't work, that doesn't mean you're entitled to steal everything that company makes, let alone steal every product from the company and share it all with your friends.
Try again. |
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| turismo |
Posted on 12-05-2008 15:09
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p3druh wrote:
What? You think you won? You're more pathetic than I thought...
You didn't win... I just don't want to argue with someone that recurs to insults to "prove" a point...
Oh, am I allowed to reply to you now? I'll happily dissect your two arguments if you'd like me to demonstrate exactly why you're wrong. When have I ever "recurred" (I think you mean "resorts"?) to insults? I can't see a single insult from me in this thread... |
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| turismo |
Posted on 12-05-2008 15:13
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Waghlon wrote:
Ahem, Internet Piracy Handbook chapter 3, paragrah 11: If one is not trying to protect his property, he shall not complain.
You have yet to attempt to shut down the site that infringe your copyright or closed the loophole.
Lots of presumptions in this thread, aren't there? Myp2p and this very site (amongst others) have already been served with "cease and desist" letters.
Waghlon wrote:
Internet Piracy Handbook chapter 1, the very first line: One cannot compete with free.
In summary: Tell the owner of the site of fix the loopholes, take legal action against the site that is ripping CTV's feeds, THEN (thats the keyword) comeback here and play moral guardian of all thats good.
And while we're at it, install bars on your windows and sit guarding the door with a shotgun, otherwise it's not morally wrong for me to steal from your house. |
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| turismo |
Posted on 12-05-2008 15:17
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brun sweater wrote:
But the short version is, I can't jusify me using those services, I have not payed to use. But frankly, and this is what it all comes down to. I don't give a crap.
Well at least one person on here is actually telling the truth. You're a saint. And a criminal, obviously, but an honest one. |
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