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| Smoothie |
Posted on 30-05-2007 20:47
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Funny that sporting asked the same, not sure they would say yes though 
Ill ask anyway. |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 30-05-2007 20:58
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oh yeah, i didn't see that Sporting had said that |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 30-05-2007 20:59
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There is a Hill a few mile down the road from here that i thouroughly enjoy. Its called Fountaingrove and it is 33% gradient on average and 5 mile long. American HIlls are better than Euro hills |
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 31-05-2007 08:21
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Ill put this up once more, becuase tomoorow is the deadline. |
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| finestre |
Posted on 31-05-2007 10:39
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Addy291 wrote:
i tried going up a 30% hill last year (when i was only 13 to be fair) but it turned out it was 3miles/5km long and 30% for 5km solid was very, very hard work
That means the hill/mountain had the following height:
0.3 * 5 km = 1500 m (around 5000 feet)
I don't know where you've been cycling my friend, but it can't be nowhere in your own country. Ben Nevis is about 1300 meters I guess. |
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Posted on 31-05-2007 11:44
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it was in Spain when i was on holiday, at my Grandma and Grandad's house (my grandad's a keen cyclist)
i have been up a similar hill in UK though, it was 30% but around 3km instead of 5 |
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| mlminard |
Posted on 31-05-2007 14:07
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Thanks for finally calling these people out...making me sick with all this nonsense and carrying on about doing a 50% hill for 10 miles..give me a break! levi...where in cali do you live? They don't even grade hills over 30% for any extending length!! Steepest hill I ever did in a race was 25% for roughly 1km in the Tour de la Somme. Shattered the whole pack wide open..keep in mind that was an elite category race in Picardy France...so quit trying to one up each other with your imaginary roads please. |
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| mlminard |
Posted on 31-05-2007 14:10
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by the way...congrats to the original poster of this smoothie for going to the sprint school! riding and racing on the track is the best thing you can do as a junior to prepare for the road racing. it's so important to be able to spin if you want to have a good racing career! |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 31-05-2007 15:01
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i don't wish to cause an arguement or anything but you obviously haven't seen the hills i'm talking about, and i never said i got all the way up them 30% hills
but i did get up the 25% called Terrington, so you might want to make sure that you are correct before you start having a go at people
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| finestre |
Posted on 01-06-2007 00:46
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Just to close the discussion, there are no 30% average hills long enough too call them a hill.
Check out https://www.salite.ch/struttura/tabella_4.asp.
That's the toughest hills in Europe. I'll think you have to look a long time to find one where 30% is even measured in the average percent. If you have found a hill good for cycling with some length with around 30%, then I'm really impressed. |
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Posted on 01-06-2007 01:02
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fefj wrote:
Denmark is known as one of the flattest countries i Europe. Apart form Netherland, of course. The highest point is "Yding Skovhøj" at 173m
Then where you Danish get Rasmussen to train as climber? |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 01-06-2007 02:36
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mlminard wrote:
Thanks for finally calling these people out...making me sick with all this nonsense and carrying on about doing a 50% hill for 10 miles..give me a break! levi...where in cali do you live? They don't even grade hills over 30% for any extending length!! Steepest hill I ever did in a race was 25% for roughly 1km in the Tour de la Somme. Shattered the whole pack wide open..keep in mind that was an elite category race in Picardy France...so quit trying to one up each other with your imaginary roads please.
I live in Northern California. Just North of Santa Rosa, 60 miles north of San Francisco. I did the Fountain Grove climb again Yesterday just to make sure I was right on the length. From start to the peak is 4.95 miles exactly. The road Connects Bennet Valley with the rest of Sonoma County so it really does exist(Levi Leipheimer trains on it) The descent going over it from the Santa Rosa side is the steepest part of it, 2 miles 40 %. The ascent is winding and seems like it levels out but it always kicks back up.
Northern California is known for its rather hilly terrain because of the number of Earthquakes around here. My house is 2 miles from a major fault line (Rogers Creek) and some of the roads around here are actually folded in places from the shifting tectonic plates.
You will find that since America is superior to Europe, all of our mountains are much taller than European Peaks. What we need is a Tour of the USA and we'll see who comes out dominant over the Sierra Nevadas and the Rocky Mountains then add the Appalachians in there for fun. There is a reason Colorado is a Cycling Mecca. Name a European Peak and i'll beat it with an American Peak. |
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| finestre |
Posted on 01-06-2007 11:24
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Levi4life wrote:
You will find that since America is superior to Europe, all of our mountains are much taller than European Peaks. What we need is a Tour of the USA and we'll see who comes out dominant over the Sierra Nevadas and the Rocky Mountains then add the Appalachians in there for fun. There is a reason Colorado is a Cycling Mecca. Name a European Peak and i'll beat it with an American Peak.
Tallest mountain in USA (excluding Alaska) is Mount Whitney 14,505 feet (4,421 meters), tallest mountain in Europe (Alps) is Mont Blanc 15,774 ft (4,808 m meter). Check your facts and stop bullshiting.
You know what elevation Denver is at? 1633 meters. Durango, 2000 meters. Tallest mountain in Colorado is Mount Elbert 4401 meters. I don't think there's a paved road all the way to the top. In Sierra Nevada in southern Spain you can start at sea level and climb to 3200 meters. Another example is Passo Stelvio, only 1800 meters of elevation. Both have paved road all the way. That's not possible in Colorado (maybe Stelvio). It may be possible in California if you start in Death Valley or something.
One thing you forgot to mention is Hawaii. There you can climb from sea level to 2800 meters. You can climb further up to 4201 meters, but I don't think its paved all the way to the top of Mauna Kea.
USA better cycling mountains than Europe? Yeah right. Please correct me if I'm wrong (with facts).
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That "40%" hill you're talking about. Is it this one https://www.srcc.com/profiles_html/fou...e_pkwy.HTM or this one https://www.srcc.com/profiles_html/fou...e_pkwy.HTM? They're both around 10%. That's pretty steep.
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 01-06-2007 12:22
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not that this little arguement isn't funny but this is Smoothie's thread and it isn't about the steepness of hills, so i think it would be nice that if you want to talk about steep hills then you could start a new topic
for when you get back Smoothie, how did it go? |
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| mlminard |
Posted on 01-06-2007 12:37
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first of all smoothie..sorry about totally twisting your thread around but i think some people had to be called out..maybe we should have started a new one..oh well.
secondly finestre..thanks for doing all the work on checking levi's story..i just didn't really care to do it since i could smell the bs. also the highest paved road in the US is Mt. Evans just outside Denver Colorado. there's a race there every year but it's not anything like the roads levi is talking about. i don't know exactly the % of the climb but i think it's about 13 miles with probably an average of 8-9%. you can check me on that. |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 01-06-2007 12:52
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right so now the arguements stop and you can leave Smoothie thread alone? |
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| finestre |
Posted on 01-06-2007 17:56
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Addy291 wrote:
right so now the arguements stop and you can leave Smoothie thread alone?
I agree man. Sorry Smoothie!
Got a little distracted by the discussion 
I hope you have blast at the Sprint School. It's even today! I guess those track sprinters have ZERO stamina . |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 01-06-2007 18:19
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yes me too, hope you did great and hope it was good meeting Pendleton and Staff |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 01-06-2007 21:54
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That "40%" hill you're talking about. Is it this one https://www.srcc.com/profiles_html/fou...e_pkwy.HTM or this one https://www.srcc.com/profiles_html/fou...e_pkwy.HTM? They're both around 10%. That's pretty steep.[/quote]
Not my hill. The start is at Old Redwood highway and the final descent is at Brush Creek Road Halfway up the west side is a dip about 300 meters long. Your hills have no dip. The whole trip from Old Redwood to Brush Creek is just under 7 miles (11km's i think). Your Hill starts at stagecoach wherever that is when Fountain grove starts at Old Redwood.
You can have your thread back Smoothie.
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 02-06-2007 13:44
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Anyway, Yesterday went fairly well. Me and another rider crashed and hit the glass boards cracking it almost in two.
After a good session of Q&A there were many things to talk about.
I asked them if they would convert to raod and they said. "Well, um... no"
Some asked wat food they ate. They said "food!" and then went into actually detail of wat they really ate
The longest road ride both of them have done is 4 hours, they said they were shattered.
I had a long look at the british cycling bike which has a new modification.
Vickys Bridgestone was super probably the second lightest track bike in the world, 1st mine (only joking)
So overall it was a good day but we can centenly say that they wont be in any databases.
I might be able to get some pictures in the near future. If you want some that is. |
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