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Giro 2008 team list released
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 01-02-2008 19:44
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A_Schleck wrote:
I present to you, your revelation of the 2008 Giro d'Italia: Chris Anker Sørensen. I'm quite sure he can come close to pulling an 'Andy'.
You getting close to Ruben syndrome..
Subject: Highroad out..also Astana. Italians must hate dopers..
If they need to sacrify highroad to get Astana out..i can accept that. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 01-02-2008 19:50
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FDJ are there eh?
But High Road isn't, but as expected plenty of Italian teams.. seems like the races will mainly be dominated by the host nation's teams
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| Tenno |
Posted on 01-02-2008 21:06
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I feel the team list is a good combination of traditional teams, young and upcoming teams and teams with the stars of Italy.
Of course its possible to debate the non presence of High Road or Astana. But what could the have pulled out? Of course High Road has Cavendish, he proved a lot last year, but nothing in a big Tour. Astana has no one left for the giro after Savoldelli left for LPR, so its fair they are out.
Whats really shocking in my opinion is that Acqua & Sapone is left out. They had an great impact on last years edition and Garzelli took two stages. The team also consists of up and coming youngsters and of course sprinter Paolini.
Euskaltel has nothing to do in the giro. Rather C.A then, even though they are too weak too, as long there is no Hushovd. What Slipstream can pull out is so so, they will do well in the TTT that will open it all, but except that i dont think they can do anyting but going in suicide breakaways... They are a strong team, but they have no clear riders with one specific skill.
Tinkoff is back, they will be calmer and focus a lot on Loddo i guess. Petrov will have a good support in Pedraza. Ever attacking Csf - Navigare (former Panaria). They have a combative team and knows where to attack. NGC will be this years suicide breakaway team... tons of young Italians that wants to show what they can do.
And who knows, maybe Gilberto Simoni can win his third? And Hondo is back.
And who will lead LPR?
Can Pellizotti step up?
Can Cunego comeback?
Will Ricco progress?
Damn, this is gonna be a great Giro! |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 01-02-2008 21:13
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Its a great Giro for Italians, but a bad Giro for those hoping for a cleaner sport.
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| Tenno |
Posted on 01-02-2008 21:14
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I dont know what you mean about that? The Italians are in fact trying to clean up stuff a little bit, while the spannish for example dont care at all... |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 01-02-2008 21:21
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Tenno wrote:
Whats really shocking in my opinion is that Acqua & Sapone is left out. They had an great impact on last years edition and Garzelli took two stages. The team also consists of up and coming youngsters and of course sprinter Paolini.
actually their sprinter is Balducci. Paolini is more of a stage hunter.
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Euskaltel has nothing to do in the giro. Rather C.A then, even though they are too weak too, as long there is no Hushovd.
I can see Caucchiolli trying something as usual, but I can understand CA not being there. As for Euskaltel, again, if they were given a wild-card, that means they'll have some good riders there. We're back to pre-2005 when Wild-Cards are only given to teams conditionally to certain riders being present.
Tenno wrote:
Tinkoff is back, they will be calmer and focus a lot on Loddo i guess. Petrov will have a good support in Pedraza. Ever attacking Csf - Navigare (former Panaria). They have a combative team and knows where to attack. NGC will be this years suicide breakaway team... tons of young Italians that wants to show what they can do.
It's too bad about Loddo. He has so much talent, but all the wrong attitude. The italian teams will definitely make this more exciting.
Tenno wrote:
Damn, this is
And who knows, maybe Gilberto Simoni can win his third? And Hondo is back.
And who will lead LPR?
Can Pellizotti step up?
Can Cunego comeback?
Will Ricco progress?
gonna be a great Giro!
Agreed, I'm really looking forward to it
as I said before in the 2008 Giro thread:
issoisso wrote:
So will this be the Giro of the younger riders?
Let's see who we have for the overall, shall we?
- Di Luca with Savoldelli as backup. He probably won't be able to reach last year's level (the confidence given by winning LBL being the main factor)
- 37 year old Simoni with very little backup (José Serpa ) and who said he isn't thinking of anything other than stage wins
- Cunego said two years ago that 2007 would be his last Giro for a long time, instead focusing on winning the Tour from 2008 onwards.
- Schleck will do the Tour
- Piepoli doesn't like the Giro, he only did it to help his friend Simoni. Given the choice he'll do the Vuelta instead (which is his favorite race)
so who do we have?
I feel as though Pelizotti will be much better than usual, but there aren't many more candidates.
Sella? Gárate? Gesink? Sorensen? Arroyo? maybe even Ardila or Rujano?
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I dont know what you mean about that? The Italians are in fact trying to clean up stuff a little bit, while the spannish for example dont care at all...
to an extent, yes. on the other hand, they did nothing to Di Luca or Paolini even though they were caught.
Edited by issoisso on 01-02-2008 21:25
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 01-02-2008 21:25
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Tenno wrote:
And who knows, maybe Gilberto Simoni can win his third? And Hondo is back.
I like Simoni...dont think he is after for GC win..nice to have him in the race
And who will lead LPR?
That would be Di Luca if he starts
Can Pellizotti step up?
That is good question..I realy hope
Can Cunego comeback?
If I remember correctly..he passes this year Giro and will be focused for TdF..(he is classic rider after all ;))
Will Ricco progress?
Richie Rich..he cant keep up with climbers all the way. Piepoli will have booring giro..all the time need to wait spoiled child.
Damn, this is gonna be a great Giro!
You got that right. |
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| Tenno |
Posted on 01-02-2008 21:28
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Oh well. I feel Paolini is a little stronger than Balducci anyway. He only had one good results last year in the giro, 2nd in the rain stage, where all the guys from 10th and backwards went down. But anywa, they wont be present and thats really sad.
C.A, Caucchioli is there, yes, so is Furlan. But Caucchioli has focused on the Tour since 2006 and last year he was completely out of everything, so I think he aint an good enough reason for a wild card.
For the overall my favourite is Ricardo Ricco. Then we have Di Luca Savoldelli and Simoni. (as u said, Cunego will go for the Tour, i forgot). What can Menchov pull off? I guess he will try a bit at least. For the youngsters i really hope Sella finally can step up, but i believe more in Pozzovivo, even though he is horrible in the TT.
And Rujano, hopefully he can back to his hold level again, or at least somewhere near it, he is an lovley bike rider when he hits his form. |
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| Tenno |
Posted on 01-02-2008 21:33
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Gianni Savio has said the to press that he wants to run with Gibo for the pink...
About Paolini... they let him go, but I guess that means there are very small connections with him and doping (i dont know the case in detail) Di Luca in fact got 3 months, thats not much and it was off season, but he he is now on a really weak and small team compared to last year, even though he has Savoldelli. |
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| rodda |
Posted on 01-02-2008 23:55
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is silence lotto bringing anyone decent?
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| Setzel |
Posted on 02-02-2008 00:10
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| rodda |
Posted on 02-02-2008 00:15
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oooh bringing out the big guns 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-02-2008 09:16
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Tenno wrote:
About Paolini... they let him go, but I guess that means there are very small connections with him and doping (i dont know the case in detail) Di Luca in fact got 3 months, thats not much and it was off season, but he he is now on a really weak and small team compared to last year, even though he has Savoldelli.
Paolini's house was searched and doping products were found. Nobody ever named which ones.
rodda wrote:
oooh bringing out the big guns
I think we can count on McEwen being there
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| mrlol |
Posted on 02-02-2008 09:25
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Astana and High road will allso not be invited in the tirreno adriatico, milaan sanremo and giro di lombardia.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 02-02-2008 09:28
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This is very interesting news. I'm looking forward to it,and no, I'll not miss Cavendish and Wiggins. And I don't get why you guys are surprised. The organizers don't want teams who are only there to use their race as preparation. They want teams and riders which have the Giro as their greatest goal / race of the season, and to me, the selection of teams reflects this.
About Chris Anker Sørensen, his goal is a top 10. At first, I thought "No way", but on the other hand, it may be possible. I don't expect more than that, though.
So, I'm looking forward to this. And I'm also looking forward to the Teams Presentation for the Tour. It's promising that Astana isn't here. It would be such a joy to see them being left out of the Tour. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-02-2008 09:34
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Here's the bigger question: what's AG2R doing on that list?
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 02-02-2008 11:04
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CrueTrue wrote:
They want teams and riders which have the Giro as their greatest goal / race of the season, and to me, the selection of teams reflects this.
Ok this might be the point..but they should be short of teams and ..why that choice Astana and Highroad? There is number of teams to but for same group has team wich not concider Giro has theyr main season goal.
If you ask me Guido name team's wich have Giro has main goal..then:
Saunier
Liquigas
Tinkoff
Lampre
50-50 for CSC and Caisse
..and all Italian based Continental teams.
Main reason for that was teams wich has most suspicious history and past...and when speculate more. they acting carefuly with french (ASO) teams..they like to be in TdF.
After all..I dont protest so much..this is gonna be great Giro.
p.s. After T-Mobile pulling out sponsorship..I dont miss magenta shirt eather..and Astana has ugly shirt..maybe that was the reason..
Edited by Guido Mukk on 02-02-2008 11:12
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| stuartmcstuart |
Posted on 03-02-2008 14:16
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I'm disappointed for team High Road, because they have a transparent anti-doping ethos and decent riders who I'm sure would have gone for stage victories (can't see AG2R or FDJ getting anything, sorry!). Its probably their own fault for announcing that the team would be using for preparation purposes...its backfired on them in a big way, as I'm sure any potential new sponsor would want them being invited to the big races. Pretty confident they'll get an invite to Le Tour though. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 03-02-2008 16:36
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You might say that they have a transparent anti-doping ethos, but you know .. T-Mobile had a doping reputation like Astana. One after one they got caught. 2007 was the first period of the new anti doping team, and that meant even more of their riders got caught - so yes, they might have a transparent anti-doping ethos, but after last year's events you can't expect the Giro organizers to have forgotten that. And that combined with the team's "we will only use the Giro as preparation"-attitude equals "goodbye, Giro, Tirreno, and other big races". |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 03-02-2008 20:15
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Speaking of the Tirreno, what about profiles for those races? Tirreno, Paris-Nice, etc? when are they released? I'm especially interested in the Tirreno's profile.
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