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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 05-01-2008 01:35
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:cry: I'll miss you, Flavio. 
Good luck, though. Make sure to bring some free software to me too |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-01-2008 07:26
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CrueTrue wrote:
:cry: I'll miss you, Flavio.
Good luck, though. Make sure to bring some free software to me too
I never said I'd be gone. just that I'd be here less frequently from monday on (also because I still have 6 exams in January  )
and no I won't steal software for you. get it yourself, "Mike"
EDIT: and it's "Flávio", not "Flavio". get it right dammit, or I might start calling you Michael to see how you like it
Edited by issoisso on 05-01-2008 09:29
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 05-01-2008 10:43
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best of luck there
and enjoy yourself
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| MarcoPRT |
Posted on 05-01-2008 10:51
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You must be prepared to Java, my friend. Sun Microsystems is a partner of your company...
And Crue, do you have a retail company to manage and you need a software for that? I'm much more corruptible than he is, and I think I'll be more in a few years...
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-01-2008 11:30
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doddy13 wrote:
best of luck there
and enjoy yourself
thanks. I plan to 
MarcoPRT wrote:
You must be prepared to Java, my friend. Sun Microsystems is a partner of your company...
I'm good with Java. but that's not an issue. grades and technical skills don't matter. if you've finished the degree at feup it means you've learned the skills.
by far the main things are (according to the human resources people who do the interviews):
- Being able to learn new things very fast
- Working well in a team
- great with several languages (I mean English, French,etc, not Java, Ruby, C, etc.)
and above all
- this job is all about solving problems quickly. so it's mostly logical reasoning
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And Crue, do you have a retail company to manage and you need a software for that? I'm much more corruptible than he is, and I think I'll be more in a few years...
who says I'm not corruptible?
Edited by issoisso on 05-01-2008 11:31
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| MarcoPRT |
Posted on 05-01-2008 11:38
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I said that I am MORE than you are, because it's impossible to a portuguese to be incorruptible...
It's in our blood.
Teamwork and good capacity to learn new thing it's easy for some portuguese guys, so you will be very sucessful, I think, and I hope to, because more than a "PCM- community friend of mine" you are a portuguese with goals to your life, and nothing is going to stop you, and that is a thing which is rare in ths country nowadays. 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-01-2008 11:57
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MarcoPRT wrote:
I said that I am MORE than you are, because it's impossible to a portuguese to be incorruptible...
It's in our blood.
Teamwork and good capacity to learn new thing it's easy for some portuguese guys, so you will be very sucessful, I think, and I hope to, because more than a "PCM- community friend of mine" you are a portuguese with goals to your life, and nothing is going to stop you, and that is a thing which is rare in ths country nowadays.
there's something wrong with your post. you seem to think this country is different from all others. get off that mindset. the differences from country to country are small.
you want proof of how wrong that mindset is? Enabler is one of the biggest retail companies in the world and every worker is portuguese
the only thing that's a bit different is that in some countries people are more organized and better at the mechanical work, while others are better at improvising and devising solutions for problems.
Steven Wilson from Microsoft once said during a lecture at FEUP that they rarely sign anyone from northern european countries (the UK being the exception) and that they never ever sign anyone from japan because those cultures reward organization and disciplined methods as opposed to agile and improvisational methods, thus making great architects and not so good engineers.
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| MarcoPRT |
Posted on 05-01-2008 12:11
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Right, I know the company was formed in Portugal, and it was a part of Sonae Distribuição, but al least for this region of the country, the young people don't seem to have goals to achieve in the future, like a good job and plans to have childrens, except some guys that are eighteen and start to have some life planning, but the crap they made before in the school doesn't gives them a good perspective of job.
Maybe I having an advanced mind for my age (16), but that is the feeling I get, and I'm happy for knowing that not all country is what I think from the majority of portuguese young and active population.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-01-2008 12:15
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MarcoPRT wrote:
Right, I know the company was formed in Portugal, and it was a part of Sonae Distribuição, but al least for this region of the country, the young people don't seem to have goals to achieve in the future, like a good job and plans to have childrens, except some guys that are eighteen and start to have some life planning, but the crap they made before in the school doesn't gives them a good perspective of job.
Maybe I having an advanced mind for my age (16), but that is the feeling I get, and I'm happy for knowing that not all country is what I think from the majority of portuguese young and active population.
it's always like that everywhere. and in a way it's good. if everyone had a college degree, no one would work in construction, at the supermarket, etc.
it'd be ireland in the 1990s all over again. massive unemployment because everyone thought they were too good for small jobs which were the only ones available.
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Posted on 05-01-2008 12:37
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Yes, but the quantity of people who doesn't have qualifications should be minor than it is actually?
Even with that situation, the employers only like money, money, money, and sometimes they get an huge advantage from that kind of people. In my opinion, the educationg should be less flexible in this country, to get good politicians (talking about Socrates, Santana Lopes, etc, again) and better conditions to all portuguese citizens, because the decisions they take are fooling the entire population, and apparently only those who have a college degree or a few less can open the eyes...
I have nothing agains the country I born here, I think we had a great past and what I desire is to be proud of my country and make some work to get that possible, but like Dias da Cunha used to say: "It's the System"
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| jolly_antunes |
Posted on 05-01-2008 13:06
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Good luck isso
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-01-2008 13:15
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MarcoPRT wrote:
Even with that situation, the employers only like money, money, money, and sometimes they get an huge advantage from that kind of people. In my opinion, the educationg should be less flexible in this country, to get good politicians (talking about Socrates, Santana Lopes, etc, again) and better conditions to all portuguese citizens, because the decisions they take are fooling the entire population, and apparently only those who have a college degree or a few less can open the eyes...
counter-argument: the US elected Bush. then re-elected him. the french elected Sarkozy. etc.
jolly_antunes wrote:
Good luck isso
thanks
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| jolly_antunes |
Posted on 05-01-2008 13:22
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MarcoPRT wrote:
Even with that situation, the employers only like money, money, money, and sometimes they get an huge advantage from that kind of people. In my opinion, the educationg should be less flexible in this country, to get good politicians (talking about Socrates, Santana Lopes, etc, again) and better conditions to all portuguese citizens, because the decisions they take are fooling the entire population, and apparently only those who have a college degree or a few less can open the eyes...
Even with the college thing, i think Socrates is doing the right thing. Step by step i think our country will be better. Of course it will be a slow progression but we need someone like Socrates that is doing what he thinks it's better and doesn't botter him the opinion of the critics.
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 05-01-2008 13:46
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Is that the same Socrates as the footballer? ops:
I haven't really read what you're talking about but saw his name
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| MarcoPRT |
Posted on 05-01-2008 13:46
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I'm a socialista too, but I can believe in it so far...
He can make some good things, but he does even more bad things (he or his secretaries). I know that evolution doesn't appear from one day to another, but this is not giving me good perspectives of future.
And to answer you both, I would say that a slow evolution will make people vote on another faction, and with the constant change in government ideals is not possible to do anything good.
Bush is an example of it, he makes the war with his stupid and killing oil search campaign in the second chance the people gave to him...evolution, but in other way.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-01-2008 13:50
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Addy291 wrote:
Is that the same Socrates as the footballer? ops:
I haven't really read what you're talking about but saw his name
Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira (born February 19, 1954), more commonly known simply as Sócrates, is a former Brazilian football player.
José Sócrates de Carvalho Pinto de Sousa, GCIH, born in Vilar de Maçada[1] September 6, 1957) is a Portuguese politician, secretary-general of the Socialist Party and prime minister of Portugal since March 12, 2005. For the second half of 2007, he acted as the President-in-Office of the Council of the European Union. In addition to these posts, José Sócrates was Portugal's Minister for Youth and Sports and one of the organisers of the EURO 2004 football championship in Portugal, as well as being a former Portugal's Minister for Environment, in the government teams of António Guterres.
Edited by issoisso on 05-01-2008 13:51
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Posted on 05-01-2008 13:53
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so, no
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| Crommy |
Posted on 05-01-2008 14:38
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At least you don't have Gordon Brown, now dubbed Mr Bean  |
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| MarcoPRT |
Posted on 05-01-2008 14:46
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Mr. Bean is funny...
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 05-01-2008 15:02
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issoisso wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
:cry: I'll miss you, Flavio.
Good luck, though. Make sure to bring some free software to me too
I never said I'd be gone. just that I'd be here less frequently from monday on (also because I still have 6 exams in January )
and no I won't steal software for you. get it yourself, "Mike"
EDIT: and it's "Flávio", not "Flavio". get it right dammit, or I might start calling you Michael to see how you like it
Flavio is way easier to write than Flávio. Pressing the ´-thingie is a waste of time |
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