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Tiny gaps and huge time losses/differences between riders/groups
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| Lachi |
Posted on 03-07-2013 22:38
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ticcque wrote:
Maybe we should ask cyanide to slow the game clock so we can get a better time gap.
I don't understand. Remember watching a slow-mo in a football game: The situation will not change only because the time runs slower.
If Cyanide should change something, then it should be the 1:10 scale of the stages.
Edited by Lachi on 03-07-2013 22:39
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| ticcque |
Posted on 03-07-2013 23:11
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What i mean is not a game speed.But the speed of ticking clock in game.If they don't want to reduce the stage scale,they should reduce the clock speed.The clock which calculate the gap.If you notice they run super fast |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 03-07-2013 23:38
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I'd think the clock is related to the scale. But I'm way too tired to think this through and argue  |
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| pfz1stp |
Posted on 04-07-2013 04:29
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Lachi wrote:
I don't understand. Remember watching a slow-mo in a football game: The situation will not change only because the time runs slower.
If Cyanide should change something, then it should be the 1:10 scale of the stages.
Hey, there are still TTs in GTs.
Better TTers are quite useless now. 2012 Bradley Wiggins has a extremely small(or no?) chance to win Paris-Nice + Romandie + Dauphine + TDF in this game.
Maybe the stage makers should include 200km+ TTs in GTs?
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| skitzophreak |
Posted on 04-07-2013 17:37
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The clock runs much faster in mountain stages than it does in TT and flat stages. Just make it run at the same speed for all and alot of people would be happy.
Another example of the clock running faster is the time gap between breaks, a 5 min long gap on a flat stage is fairly sized portion of road. On a mountain stage 5 mins could just be one switchback of the road.
The thing that really bugs me is last night I was in a leading group of around 12 riders as sky. I had Uran driving at the head and Porte protecting Froome who was near the rear of the group. I looked away for a second and Uran had split the group in two and the was a 6 min time gap between the two halves. Both Porte and Froom had full energy and on 99 effort lowish heart rates they werent droped they just hadn't bothered to keep up even though I told the to take position beside Uran.
I lost 35 mins on that stage... |
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| atlanta |
Posted on 04-07-2013 19:15
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Well I just done the TDF and im Saxo, and for the last few mnt stages I upped Schlecks MNT stat as so far he is looking good irl(I know we have not seen a mountain yet) but because Kiserlovski was 2 minutes ahead of Schleck, Andy would not attack I gave im 85 mnt lol and he would just stay in the autobus. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 04-07-2013 19:18
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atlanta wrote:
Well I just done the TDF and im Saxo, and for the last few mnt stages I upped Schlecks MNT stat as so far he is looking good irl(I know we have not seen a mountain yet) but because Kiserlovski was 2 minutes ahead of Schleck, Andy would not attack I gave im 85 mnt lol and he would just stay in the autobus.
It might be possible that they define the leader at stage 1 of the TdF.
Also, no reason to up Schleck's MO stat, unless you're a fanboy maybe
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| Lachi |
Posted on 04-07-2013 19:36
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skitzophreak wrote:
The clock runs much faster in mountain stages than it does in TT and flat stages. Just make it run at the same speed for all and alot of people would be happy. I don't believe it. Have a proof?
skitzophreak wrote:
Another example of the clock running faster is the time gap between breaks, a 5 min long gap on a flat stage is fairly sized portion of road. On a mountain stage 5 mins could just be one switchback of the road. I hope you are aware of the basic physical rules: speed = distance divided by time. Let's look at two turtles. Even if they are only 1 meter apart, the time gap is still 15 minutes.
skitzophreak wrote:
The thing that really bugs me is last night I was in a leading group of around 12 riders as sky. I had Uran driving at the head and Porte protecting Froome who was near the rear of the group. I looked away for a second and Uran had split the group in two and the was a 6 min time gap between the two halves. Both Porte and Froom had full energy and on 99 effort lowish heart rates they werent droped they just hadn't bothered to keep up even though I told the to take position beside Uran.
I lost 35 mins on that stage... When playing on normal speed it is not possible to get dropped within a second. At least not if you have set up your riders correctly. First you have to make sure that your riders are not behind weaker riders and if they are "keeping position", then raise the % to 95 if you want to be able to look away.
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| atlanta |
Posted on 04-07-2013 20:09
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Jesleyh wrote:
atlanta wrote:
Well I just done the TDF and im Saxo, and for the last few mnt stages I upped Schlecks MNT stat as so far he is looking good irl(I know we have not seen a mountain yet) but because Kiserlovski was 2 minutes ahead of Schleck, Andy would not attack I gave im 85 mnt lol and he would just stay in the autobus.
It might be possible that they define the leader at stage 1 of the TdF.
Also, no reason to up Schleck's MO stat, unless you're a fanboy maybe
Have I heard you correct Jes, you calling someone a fanboy, lol only kidding. But yes what is wrong with upping Schlecks MNT stat when he is 36 mins down on GC. I will tell you now I also upped Gesink to 78 mnt he is now at Vaconsolei with TGBM. Kelderman is not progressing though so I may up him. And I only upped Andy for the TDF as he is always good in the TDF. You will eat your words after this TDF I promise you. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 04-07-2013 20:12
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atlanta wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
atlanta wrote:
Well I just done the TDF and im Saxo, and for the last few mnt stages I upped Schlecks MNT stat as so far he is looking good irl(I know we have not seen a mountain yet) but because Kiserlovski was 2 minutes ahead of Schleck, Andy would not attack I gave im 85 mnt lol and he would just stay in the autobus.
It might be possible that they define the leader at stage 1 of the TdF.
Also, no reason to up Schleck's MO stat, unless you're a fanboy maybe
Have I heard you correct Jes, you calling someone a fanboy, lol only kidding. But yes what is wrong with upping Schlecks MNT stat when he is 36 mins down on GC. I will tell you now I also upped Gesink to 78 mnt he is now at Vaconsolei with TGBM. Kelderman is not progressing though so I may up him. And I only upped Andy for the TDF as he is always good in the TDF. You will eat your words after this TDF I promise you.
I know I'm a fanboy already, but that doesn't mean I can't call other guys fanboys
Yet, I don't care about you upping Gesink. I would care about you upping Kelderman though
And I'm looking forward to eating my words, yet it won't happen.
But right, we're getting a bit offtopic, aren't we?
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| atlanta |
Posted on 04-07-2013 21:42
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Jesleyh wrote:
atlanta wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
atlanta wrote:
Well I just done the TDF and im Saxo, and for the last few mnt stages I upped Schlecks MNT stat as so far he is looking good irl(I know we have not seen a mountain yet) but because Kiserlovski was 2 minutes ahead of Schleck, Andy would not attack I gave im 85 mnt lol and he would just stay in the autobus.
It might be possible that they define the leader at stage 1 of the TdF.
Also, no reason to up Schleck's MO stat, unless you're a fanboy maybe
Have I heard you correct Jes, you calling someone a fanboy, lol only kidding. But yes what is wrong with upping Schlecks MNT stat when he is 36 mins down on GC. I will tell you now I also upped Gesink to 78 mnt he is now at Vaconsolei with TGBM. Kelderman is not progressing though so I may up him. And I only upped Andy for the TDF as he is always good in the TDF. You will eat your words after this TDF I promise you.
I know I'm a fanboy already, but that doesn't mean I can't call other guys fanboys
Yet, I don't care about you upping Gesink. I would care about you upping Kelderman though
And I'm looking forward to eating my words, yet it won't happen.
But right, we're getting a bit offtopic, aren't we?
Yes we are but no im no fanboy, you could say I am about Froome though after he gobbles Alberto and spits him out lol. And you will eat your words Schleck was great on La Punt and that was a training ride he will be on the podium, he is better than Valverde and Purito in the TDF. |
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