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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 01-07-2013 05:46
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I also agree. I cringe when I see the dogs about to get injured, it is more natural for the human to fall, I would rather be safe than a rider get a little scratch.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 01-07-2013 07:17
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Daggen wrote:
If a rider is alone and hits a dog and he wears a helmet the worst thing for the rider is probably bruises. A dog, if hit hard, will get injuries for life.
Are you serious? What about the ants and ladybugs that are crushed by peloton, i hope they are okay too. Riders safety should be first thing in mind of every bike race. But of course i dont want the dog injured, rather his moron owner.
But you know that injured animals can be shot and their suffering ended at worst case? You can hardly do that with a man.
Too many fails and comedy parts in first two days, what will happen next, elephants crossing? 
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| Selwink |
Posted on 01-07-2013 07:19
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I at least hope we don't get the same as after the Mur de Pegueres last year
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 01-07-2013 07:41
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Tafiolmo wrote:
Also today with that silly dog on the road and the silly boy that got too near to Sagan, were clearly a lack of knowledge by the locals concerning a big race in Corsica.
Seriously, after all these years with so many (almost) dog incidents, people still don't know better? Do they really believe that their dog will not panic from all cars, cyclists, spectator noise and helicopters? Pardon me, but you must be a f***ing retard to take an unleashed dog to a mass event like the Tour de France and you should be arrested for reckless endangerment if you make an insane decision like that. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 01-07-2013 08:41
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I bet the dog was just part of an evil masterplan by the Corsican separatists. More to come  |
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 01-07-2013 09:00
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Ian Butler wrote:
I bet the dog was just part of an evil masterplan by the Corsican separatists. More to come
I forgot about the Corsican separatists, maybe today they might try and kidnap a rider. Thomas De Gendt might be a good choice, I hear he was floundering off the back of the race yesterday and nobody will miss him.
On UK television they were telling us that Corsica is the murder capital of Europe, such a shame for what looks like a beautiful island.
Edited by Tafiolmo on 01-07-2013 09:01
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| ShortsNL |
Posted on 01-07-2013 09:02
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I think the bus incident was definitely not the drivers' fault.
Consider the following:
-He was sent on the course by race officials because the bus was late
-He must have known the height of his own vehicle, so he must have been told to go underneath the finish banner either way by someone. He must have been instructed by someone else.
-According to the finish director after the race, the driver was supposed to 'ask permission' at the finish line to drive underneath it. How on earth is he supposed to know that?
Ergo, whoever decided that the bus could go on the course and instructed the driver to go underneath the barrier is at fault. The finish director is just making excuses and blaming it on the bus driver.
Now, on to the race directors and change of the finish line.
The peloton was at around 18 kilomters from the finish when the incident happened. They must have been going 60kph ad the time, giving the organizers only 15 minutes before the peloton would arrive. They had to make the best decision instantly. In the biggest cycling race of the year, this isn't actually easy.
-They could have neutralized the race. In that case, the peloton would stop completely and we arguably had the previous 200 kilometers for nothing. On top of that, the television schedules of 100+ stations would tumble, as well as the race's own planning. They weren't sure if the bus was able to be removed in that timeframe. So, are we going to preemptively overthrow the entire finale when we're not certain on what will happen, or if it's even necessary at all? No.
-They could have said nothing at all and hope for the best. Obviously, this would have been irresponsible, because if the bus wasn't removed we would have had complete chaos.
-So, what other option did they have? Change the finish line, but where? They needed a place to measure the time after all, and where else can they do that at the 3k mark? This was their only choice. Move the finish to the 3k mark for, and if the bus gets clear, move it back as the roundabout is obviously not ideal.
I really don't think there was anything wrong with the decisions the race directors made. I don't see the negative impact of it, especially since you can't just say: race directors make last minute decision -> omg let's all crash. It's a non sequitur. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 01-07-2013 09:30
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ShortsNL wrote:
-They could have said nothing at all and hope for the best. Obviously, this would have been irresponsible, because if the bus wasn't removed we would have had complete chaos.
This is not an option because as you wrote above, they can neutralize the race at any time.
And you forgot the option to stop the race. It would have been possible to stop it for like 5 minutes or so. And as far as I know, it is not uncommon to stop bike races.
But maybe it was all on purpose. It is the 100th edition of this race, so they want to have some spectacle. They have seen the fallen banner in the Tour de Suisse and wanted to have it also... Then they announced the new finish line to cause turmoil in the peloton to create a mass crash.
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 01-07-2013 09:35
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Lachi wrote:
But maybe it was all on purpose. It is the 100th edition of this race, so they want to have some spectacle. They have seen the fallen banner in the Tour de Suisse and wanted to have it also... Then they announced the new finish line to cause turmoil in the peloton to create a mass crash.
Now, just after the first day, everbody speaks about the Tour de France = mission accomplished.
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| SotD |
Posted on 01-07-2013 09:48
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
But you know that injured animals can be shot and their suffering ended at worst case? You can hardly do that with a man.
Of course you can.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 01-07-2013 10:05
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SotD wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
But you know that injured animals can be shot and their suffering ended at worst case? You can hardly do that with a man.
Of course you can.
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 01-07-2013 10:13
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Shooting Contador to relieve him of his misery = No
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 01-07-2013 11:27
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Tafiolmo wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
I bet the dog was just part of an evil masterplan by the Corsican separatists. More to come
I forgot about the Corsican separatists, maybe today they might try and kidnap a rider. Thomas De Gendt might be a good choice, I hear he was floundering off the back of the race yesterday and nobody will miss him.
On UK television they were telling us that Corsica is the murder capital of Europe, such a shame for what looks like a beautiful island.
I wouldn't want to start a geopolitical discussion here, but to make a long story short, the French authorities have been struggling to manage Corsican nationalists, but they managed to deal with Corsican mobsters decently. At some point the nationalists were too much, so the government thought of another option : let the mobsters deal with nationalists. That's how the nationalists got weakened, although we hear about them every now and then, but frankly they're a minority, mostly composed of retarded lunatic guys. The bad side of things is that the mobsters are rather out of control now, which is making the place one of the worst in Europe, criminally-wise.
I'd have figured Marseille was worst though.
btw, what is that nickname you have ?
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 01-07-2013 11:49
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Waghlon wrote:
Shooting Contador to relieve him of his misery = No
Shooting a stagiare to relieve him = Sure you can
I'd shoot C*ntadope anyday. But if we were to shoot any cyclist, surely it would be Andy! He's been lame since his fall in the Dauphine and we can't put him out to stud as he never won anything. He would make good glue i think, i mean he always stuck to Frank, so turn him into paper. Then we could make Cuddles and Valverde into the back pages because they are always just behind before the big finish, which would be made of Rojas. Froomey should be put into a zoo along with the other bugs and insects. And if we had to stud some others i guess Sagan, Kwiatkowski, Spartacus, Tommoke etc would all fetch great prices. The problem is whether all this cycling damaged the.. ermm.. yeah...
I appear to have gone off topic somewhat...
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 01-07-2013 12:30
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Aquarius wrote:
Tafiolmo wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
I bet the dog was just part of an evil masterplan by the Corsican separatists. More to come
I forgot about the Corsican separatists, maybe today they might try and kidnap a rider. Thomas De Gendt might be a good choice, I hear he was floundering off the back of the race yesterday and nobody will miss him.
On UK television they were telling us that Corsica is the murder capital of Europe, such a shame for what looks like a beautiful island.
I wouldn't want to start a geopolitical discussion here, but to make a long story short, the French authorities have been struggling to manage Corsican nationalists, but they managed to deal with Corsican mobsters decently. At some point the nationalists were too much, so the government thought of another option : let the mobsters deal with nationalists. That's how the nationalists got weakened, although we hear about them every now and then, but frankly they're a minority, mostly composed of retarded lunatic guys. The bad side of things is that the mobsters are rather out of control now, which is making the place one of the worst in Europe, criminally-wise.
I'd have figured Marseille was worst though.
btw, what is that nickname you have ?
Interesting story about Corsica. I don't know France very well but I've often heard from different people that Marseille was where most French crime was anyway.
The nickname was quickly thought up and I just used the surname of one of my favourite riders Andrea Tafi and Olmo which was the first racing bike I bought many years ago. |
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