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HTC Nieuwsblad | 2013
SotD
Nice. Give me a frenchie that can potentially beat Sicard Pfft
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Alakagom
SportingNonsense wrote:
It will be interesting to see. Last year Cattaneo was possibly the stand out GC rider available, and who is to say that Dombrowski will be the only one this year! That could possibly see prices not rise up if people only want a top young talent. If others particularly want Dombrowski, then you have a problem! Nice to see him being targeted though before most of you even know his stats Pfft

I bet youll enjoy transfers this time, since youll get more than 1 day at it!


Yep, actually being involved for transfer for more than few hours is a very nice bonus this year Smile

Well, I can say now that Dombrowski will be hard to get Pfft We'll still try for him though, it all will depend if you sign our leaders at good prices and have money left for him. I would consider going down this year to CT, and then promoting back to PCT if that meant having certain talents like Joe ( although wage caps would be considered very carefully then ) However that's quite a sketchy plan I have. And tbh I have too many right now Pfft Decisions....decisions...decisions Pfft
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cio93
I spent 700k last transfer season on "useless" talents and still promoted, so with the right planning, there's no need to worry more than usual Wink
Edited by cio93 on 15-10-2012 21:44
 
alexkr00
I wouldn't count too much on that relegate, then promote again plan. I doubt you will be able to keep Dombrowski as a CT team Pfft
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Alakagom
alexkr00 wrote:
I wouldn't count too much on that relegate, then promote again plan. I doubt you will be able to keep Dombrowski as a CT team Pfft


Well that exactly depends on CT salary cap Pfft

If it's like 2 million - then I think I could manage.

If it's around 1.5 ---> then yeah, the plan wouldn't work at all Pfft

Thanks for reassurance cio93, well hopefully we'll repeat some of your success you achieved this season Smile And additionally one of your old riders might help our success in PCT Wink
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Alakagom wrote:
Of course we can't forget about our Belgian talents, Tom Van Asbroeck, Sean de Bie and Tim Wellens have been mentioned.

Over... my... dead... body...

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cio93
CountArach wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Of course we can't forget about our Belgian talents, Tom Van Asbroeck, Sean de Bie and Tim Wellens have been mentioned.

Over... my... dead... body...

*gently caresses pistol*


Alakagom would probably need to reload several times to kill everyone hunting for them :lol:
 
Alakagom
Get off my talents... you already have too many in your team Count Pfft

There's soo many talents that I think we can negotiate our way around it though, somehow. It will be intresting for sure!
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Avin Wargunnson
How is it half of you know how the talents will be? I suppose it is only reporters and admins? It is not nice from you to tease us with limited info. Pfft
Cant wait for the database. Smile
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Heine
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
How is it half of you know how the talents will be? I suppose it is only reporters and admins? It is not nice from you to tease us with limited info. Pfft
Cant wait for the database. Smile


Reporters know since they have been helping SN fix mistakes in the database Smile I guess a pre-renewals DB will be out around the time CT applications are accepted, but that is just a guess
 
SotD
cio93 wrote:
I spent 700k last transfer season on "useless" talents and still promoted, so with the right planning, there's no need to worry more than usual Wink


But in the future you can't expect 7 teams to promote. That is a historical high, which I doubt will ever occur again.
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cio93
SotD wrote:
cio93 wrote:
I spent 700k last transfer season on "useless" talents and still promoted, so with the right planning, there's no need to worry more than usual Wink


But in the future you can't expect 7 teams to promote. That is a historical high, which I doubt will ever occur again.




That was not my point, and 360 points to 4th place isn't that much as well.

But what I wanted to say is that if I can be in promotion contention with less than half the team maxed out and 700k spent for lvl1 riders, especially with more regional based teams appearing now, there's no extra need to worry when spending 500k+ on a really good talent.
 
SotD
cio93 wrote:
SotD wrote:
cio93 wrote:
I spent 700k last transfer season on "useless" talents and still promoted, so with the right planning, there's no need to worry more than usual Wink


But in the future you can't expect 7 teams to promote. That is a historical high, which I doubt will ever occur again.




That was not my point, and 360 points to 4th place isn't that much as well.

But what I wanted to say is that if I can be in promotion contention with less than half the team maxed out and 700k spent for lvl1 riders, especially with more regional based teams appearing now, there's no extra need to worry when spending 500k+ on a really good talent.


Perhaps not, but if you have half a team on level 1 riders, and the total cost of those are 700K, you have spent an average of 70K pr. rider.

If you spend 500K on one, that leaves room for only 4 more riders to get to that point where you are, meaning that another 5 rider, not considering the sucky-factor, is still needed.

So of course you would have to worry as a CT team if you spend 1/5 on 1/20 riders. It would mean that you would have only 2mio to spend on 19 riders, which is 105K each, whereas the other managers have an avr. of 125K pr. rider. It might not seem much, but in comparison the PT teams have an avr. of 140K pr. rider - So the gap between spending 500K for one useless rider in the CT is larger than the gap from a normal CT team to a PT team. - And that gap is usually considered large. Very large.

So every team who puts in 500K on a rider who is useless for atleast 2 seasons have put their team in serious contention of relegation, if the remaining Transferseason isn't very well prepared. It's not impossible - Not at all, but the risk is high - Especially for new PCT managers.
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cio93
I won't argue against that, because it is right.

SotD wrote:
So every team who puts in 500K on a rider who is useless for atleast 2 seasons have put their team in serious contention of relegation, if the remaining Transferseason isn't very well prepared.



In this case, I have the advantage of having the DB.
I won't reveal much, but Dombrowski is anything but useless until maxed out.
For the rest of the new FAs, this is correct.

And in the end, regardless of such things, preparation is the most important factor (besides luck) anyways Wink
 
tyriion
cio93 wrote:
I won't argue against that, because it is right.

SotD wrote:
So every team who puts in 500K on a rider who is useless for atleast 2 seasons have put their team in serious contention of relegation, if the remaining Transferseason isn't very well prepared.



In this case, I have the advantage of having the DB.
I won't reveal much, but Dombrowski is anything but useless until maxed out.
For the rest of the new FAs, this is correct.

And in the end, regardless of such things, preparation is the most important factor (besides luck) anyways Wink


I would do stuff for that Shock
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cio93
tyriion wrote:
cio93 wrote:
I won't argue against that, because it is right.

SotD wrote:
So every team who puts in 500K on a rider who is useless for atleast 2 seasons have put their team in serious contention of relegation, if the remaining Transferseason isn't very well prepared.



In this case, I have the advantage of having the DB.
I won't reveal much, but Dombrowski is anything but useless until maxed out.
For the rest of the new FAs, this is correct.

And in the end, regardless of such things, preparation is the most important factor (besides luck) anyways Wink


I would do stuff for that Shock



Like reporting races next season? You're welcome Wink
 
SotD
I didn't say anything about maxed out, but he is probably nothing but a domestique at his first season, if he is level 1.

Let's play with the thoughts of him being 72 perhaps 73MO, that is pretty much useless in the PCT. I don't know if he can TT or not, but I reckon he is not above 70 in TT on level 1. So a domestique whom if very very lucky will provide your team with a little bit more than his presence, pointswise.

Next season he can only raise 2 if level 7, so 74-75MO and 72TT. That is also a domestique. A decent one I know, but he is still very unlikely to score you any points.

First when he is at level 3 and 76-77MO and 74TT he will be competitive, and even then he isn't likely to win races.

So in season 4 he might be a monster, and season 3 useable, but before that I doubt he will be anything but a hugely overpaid semigood climber. A rider which you can probably aquire at same level for something like 60-70K.

Well, let's see how badly I'll be wrong on this subject Smile

Oh, and sorry for using your HQ btw. I'll stop that now Smile
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Heine
He can raise 2 levels over one season, so I can spoil poeple and say he will be 77 in MO after one season (if used right) ;-) (No problem to make riders go up two levels, I did it with Brenes, Anacona, Zabel, Schorn and Preidler this season) 77 is a okay leader in PCT (Potential top 30 in Individual Points)

(Last off-topic post from me aswell Smile )
 
cio93
Spoiler
78 MO. Pfft

Edited by cio93 on 16-10-2012 15:51
 
viking90
Both Michiel Van Aelbroeck and Kevin Ista mentioned on todays meeting with the boss that they wanted to ride for a team from their own country. And they both mentioned HTC Nieuwsblad as a perfect team. They both did a great job last year in Saab-Scania and thanks to that the management won´t ask for much to make their desire come true.

How does the management of HTC Nieuwsblad react on that?
 
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