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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 03-07-2012 06:04
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kumazan wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Moving it to a more earlier season slot would make it more of a option for many teams 
Agree. No WT races in February. Would be a great slot for Tirreno.
Who would want to be in form for a WT race in February though? Moving to February would improve in terms of not clashing with another WT race, but would be a step back in everything else, specially in big names contending the race.
I agree and there is also the weather problem, as there was problem with snow in March, it could be even worse in February...
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 03-07-2012 06:07
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Aquarius wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
A bit off-topic but can i ask if somebody knows more about how can weight loss ( cavendish case especially, 3-4 kilos) influence his top speed? Also is there is some scientific article about how the power and muscles are used for sprint so that weight reduction can make you slower sprinter but faster going uphill?
My friend is interested in this and i am not able to answer all his questions from scientific point of view.
Thanks in advance...
I suppose other people have as much if not more knowledge than me on the matter, but I'll give my two cents.
First of all, it depends on what kind of mass you lose. Lose one or two bones and you can't ride anymore.  Lose only fat mass and you'll climb faster, but also climb faster. Lose muscle say, in the arms (hard to lose 3 or 4 kg there, but still), and you'll climb faster, and probably sprint faster too.
Lose muscles in the legs, and you'll probably lose a little top end speed, but will climb better, given your mass has decreased, but you have not harmed your muscles of course (don't try with a knife : won't work ).
Then there are other factors : as I've written many times, it's not track cycling we're talking about. Road sprinters would be crap against the likes of Baugé, Hoy, etc. with their current condition. Why ? Because to be the fastest at the end of a road race, you need to be present there, and fresh enough to sprint. If you can't climb a speed bump (Marcel Kittel says : "Hello" , or if that tires you too much, you won't be able to deliver. So, that's a compromise to find.
Maybe you were asking for something like Watts per kilogramme of muscle though. I don't know if it works like that, I mean I don't know if it's supposed to be constant through a variation of muscular mass, especially for explosive efforts. Maybe anyone with a more specific knowledge could answer that ?
Thanks, this is enough of an answer. And Cav winning yesterday was also a good answer, he probably did not lost the sprinting leg muscles, maybe rather some fat
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 03-07-2012 06:10
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
A bit off-topic but can i ask if somebody knows more about how can weight loss ( cavendish case especially, 3-4 kilos) influence his top speed? Also is there is some scientific article about how the power and muscles are used for sprint so that weight reduction can make you slower sprinter but faster going uphill?
My friend is interested in this and i am not able to answer all his questions from scientific point of view.
Thanks in advance...
I suppose other people have as much if not more knowledge than me on the matter, but I'll give my two cents.
First of all, it depends on what kind of mass you lose. Lose one or two bones and you can't ride anymore. Lose only fat mass and you'll climb faster, but also climb faster. Lose muscle say, in the arms (hard to lose 3 or 4 kg there, but still), and you'll climb faster, and probably sprint faster too.
Lose muscles in the legs, and you'll probably lose a little top end speed, but will climb better, given your mass has decreased, but you have not harmed your muscles of course (don't try with a knife : won't work ).
Then there are other factors : as I've written many times, it's not track cycling we're talking about. Road sprinters would be crap against the likes of Baugé, Hoy, etc. with their current condition. Why ? Because to be the fastest at the end of a road race, you need to be present there, and fresh enough to sprint. If you can't climb a speed bump (Marcel Kittel says : "Hello" , or if that tires you too much, you won't be able to deliver. So, that's a compromise to find.
Maybe you were asking for something like Watts per kilogramme of muscle though. I don't know if it works like that, I mean I don't know if it's supposed to be constant through a variation of muscular mass, especially for explosive efforts. Maybe anyone with a more specific knowledge could answer that ?
Thanks, this is enough of an answer. And Cav winning yesterday was also a good answer, he probably did not lost the sprinting leg muscles, maybe rather some fat
Yeah, probably burned all that holiday fat that we noticed at the start of the season
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 03-07-2012 09:27
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Alakagom wrote:
Tour Down Under 2013 route have been unveiled.
https://www.tourdo...es-1-6.htm
Didn't look at it greatly, but there's new and more climbs as well as Striling and Willunga remain.
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 03-07-2012 09:36
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Looks like one added stage that'll cause gaps. More exciting, hopefully some better riders will come down to Australia instead of San Luis fe.
I think they should replace the final circuit of Adelaide with a 20km TT. Would be awesome. 
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| Rin |
Posted on 03-07-2012 10:14
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CrueTrue wrote:
More on that new Schleck team that was discussed in News in June. Voigt pretty much confirms it.
"I haven't received a call with a concrete contract offer yet. But where there's smoke, there's fire. Perhaps they'll offer me a combined contract - one more year as a rider and then join the management."
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/new-g...the-making
I heard the german company is Alpecin and that might be very true, as they are sponsoring here some races and teams (don't know how to translate the Jedermann races in english..) and sponsors Jan Ullrich.
Alpecin is a company that makes some medicine against loss of hair..
Around 2002 Alpecin was at the headlines when a footballer was found positive and said it was the medicine Alpecin made as he was/is bold.. So their commercials are about "Doping for the hairs, just for the hairs"
So they might get Leipheimer and Horner
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 03-07-2012 10:46
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2012 Tour of Beijing route announced
''A tougher course designed to excite the fans''
| Tuesday 9 October - Stage 1 - Tian An Men Square - Bird’s Nest Olympic Piazza (117km) | | Wednesday 10 October - Stage 2 - Bird’s Nest Piazza - Men Tou Gou Yong Ding River Cultural Square (134km) | | Thursday 11 October - Stage 3 - Green Sea Forest Park - Yan Qing Ba Da Ling Great Wall (162.5km) | | Friday 12 October - Stage 4 - Yan Qing Gui Chuan Square - Chang Ping Stadium (165.5km) | | Saturday 13 October - Stage 5 - Chang Ping Stadium - Ping Gu Centenary Square (182.5km) |
Queen stage looks nice/okay/improvement in last year's route. No TT too.
Edited by Alakagom on 03-07-2012 11:06
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 03-07-2012 14:24
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The stage to Badaling was much needed - a return to the 2008 Olympic course
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| CountArach |
Posted on 03-07-2012 14:26
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That does indeed look much more interesting. It will be intersting to see who goes, because that is a rather tough climb to call.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 04-07-2012 11:27
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Team GB for Olympics :
Mark Cavendish
Chris Froome ( Time Trial )
David Millar
Ian Stannard
Bradley Wiggins ( Time Trial )
Basically the strongest team they could field. Good decision in my view picking Froome over Millar in TT too.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 04-07-2012 12:07
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Alakagom wrote:
Team GB for Olympics :
Mark Cavendish
Chris Froome ( Time Trial )
David Millar
Ian Stannard
Bradley Wiggins ( Time Trial )
Basically the strongest team they could field. Good decision in my view picking Froome over Millar in TT too.
So a 270km TTT with Cavendish not doing any work, then release the beast in the last 200m?
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 04-07-2012 12:10
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kumazan wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Team GB for Olympics :
Mark Cavendish
Chris Froome ( Time Trial )
David Millar
Ian Stannard
Bradley Wiggins ( Time Trial )
Basically the strongest team they could field. Good decision in my view picking Froome over Millar in TT too.
So a 270km TTT with Cavendish not doing any work, then release the beast in the last 200m?
Just to be passed by all-alone riding Sagan at 150m remaining?
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| kumazan |
Posted on 04-07-2012 12:15
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Team GB for Olympics :
Mark Cavendish
Chris Froome ( Time Trial )
David Millar
Ian Stannard
Bradley Wiggins ( Time Trial )
Basically the strongest team they could field. Good decision in my view picking Froome over Millar in TT too.
So a 270km TTT with Cavendish not doing any work, then release the beast in the last 200m?
Just to be passed by all-alone riding Sagan at 150m remaining?
Who still won't be able to beak Tommeke though
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| Andrew |
Posted on 04-07-2012 12:44
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Alex Rasmussen got a 18 months ban for failing his whereabout, it was decided by the CAS today.
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 04-07-2012 12:46
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kumazan wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Team GB for Olympics :
Mark Cavendish
Chris Froome ( Time Trial )
David Millar
Ian Stannard
Bradley Wiggins ( Time Trial )
Basically the strongest team they could field. Good decision in my view picking Froome over Millar in TT too.
So a 270km TTT with Cavendish not doing any work, then release the beast in the last 200m?
Just to be passed by all-alone riding Sagan at 150m remaining?
Who still won't be able to beak Tommeke though
But then they'll all crash and Arashiro will win. Just like in the worlds.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 04-07-2012 13:07
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Teddy The Creator wrote:
But then they'll all crash and Arashiro will win. Just like in the worlds.
This. So this.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 04-07-2012 13:13
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CountArach wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
But then they'll all crash and Arashiro will win. Just like in the worlds.
This. So this.
Pfff, as if Arashiro needed others to crash to get a win. He's much better than that.
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| titleist82 |
Posted on 04-07-2012 14:11
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Italian Team Selection for Olympics:
Nibali
Modolo
Paolini
Trentin
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 04-07-2012 16:00
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Rasmussen fired from Garmin-Sharp
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| dienblad |
Posted on 05-07-2012 08:33
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Didn't find this news yet:
https://nos.nl/art...trong.html
Looks like 6 riders (Leipheimer, Zabriskie, Vandevelde & Hincapie and 2 others) confess doping usage, but for giving information about Armstrong, they will be suspended for 6 months in september. Also Jonathan Vaughters has cooperated....
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