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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 01-06-2012 20:27
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619170 wrote:
Wiggins will win all stages.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 01-06-2012 20:29
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jsh312mufc wrote:
619170 wrote:
Wiggins will win all stages.
really?
Sometimes you should no take people seriously  
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 01-06-2012 20:39
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if Wiggins wins this...then he will have bad tour...again. sky fanboys be careful what you hope for
Edited by Guido Mukk on 01-06-2012 20:40
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 01-06-2012 20:46
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Guido Mukk wrote:
if Wiggins wins this...then he will have bad tour...again. sky fanboys be careful what you hope for
This or another Sky rider will have a crazy result. |
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| Neillster |
Posted on 02-06-2012 01:23
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FreitasPCM wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
if Wiggins wins this...then he will have bad tour...again. sky fanboys be careful what you hope for
This or another Sky rider will have a crazy result.
Which is totally possible. Sky have brought an all star team here so that if Wiggins can win, he will with the minimal amount of effort thanks to hard work by his team. However, if it turns out that Wiggins comes here as a domestique (see Algarve), then they still have the class to win with 3 great time trialists in Hagen, Porte and Rogers. (I know Hagen can't win it all, but you just can't leave him out) |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 02-06-2012 05:01
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jsh312mufc wrote:
Wilier wrote:
I'm curious to see how Westra and Kelderman'll do.
And please don't let boring Wiggins win.
Its not boring, its called using your strengths to beat the others, where they are weak. This year, bradley wiggins has been the best time triallist, and if he can stay with them in the mountains like in romandy and paris-nice, he is clearly the strongest rider and therefore deserves to win
That's not what is being said. Wiggins would only win it by following wheels up the mountains and then winning the time trial. That isn't an exciting race at all. That doesn't mean he isn't the strongest or that he doesn't deserve it - it just is a boring way to win.
Looking at the routes I'm more excited for Suisse
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 02-06-2012 06:49
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jsh312mufc wrote:
Wilier wrote:
I'm curious to see how Westra and Kelderman'll do.
And please don't let boring Wiggins win.
Its not boring, its called using your strengths to beat the others, where they are weak. This year, bradley wiggins has been the best time triallist, and if he can stay with them in the mountains like in romandy and paris-nice, he is clearly the strongest rider and therefore deserves to win
No,he is boring as cyclist can be, biggets wheelsucker of modern cycling.That is because of his strenght,but boring as my grandmas birthday party.
I will cheer for some mountain action
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 02-06-2012 09:23
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
jsh312mufc wrote:
Wilier wrote:
I'm curious to see how Westra and Kelderman'll do.
And please don't let boring Wiggins win.
Its not boring, its called using your strengths to beat the others, where they are weak. This year, bradley wiggins has been the best time triallist, and if he can stay with them in the mountains like in romandy and paris-nice, he is clearly the strongest rider and therefore deserves to win
No,he is boring as cyclist can be, biggets wheelsucker of modern cycling.That is because of his strenght,but boring as my grandmas birthday party.
I will cheer for some mountain action
Really ?
What did Rodriguez do at Giro on Stage 20 with Hesjedal. Wheel-sucked the shit out of him for 8km and then magically attacked with 1km to go... my god what a achievement.
Valverde is the biggest wheel-scuker in the peleton by far. Wiggins is not a wheel-scuker. He's a climber like Basso, that can't really attack and will have to ride people of his wheel. Would you call Basso a wheel sucker ?
Edited by Alakagom on 02-06-2012 09:24
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| dienblad |
Posted on 02-06-2012 09:33
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Alakagom wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
jsh312mufc wrote:
Wilier wrote:
I'm curious to see how Westra and Kelderman'll do.
And please don't let boring Wiggins win.
Its not boring, its called using your strengths to beat the others, where they are weak. This year, bradley wiggins has been the best time triallist, and if he can stay with them in the mountains like in romandy and paris-nice, he is clearly the strongest rider and therefore deserves to win
No,he is boring as cyclist can be, biggets wheelsucker of modern cycling.That is because of his strenght,but boring as my grandmas birthday party.
I will cheer for some mountain action
Really ?
What did Rodriguez do at Giro on Stage 20 with Hesjedal. Wheel-sucked the shit out of him for 8km and then magically attacked with 1km to go... my god what a achievement.
Valverde is the biggest wheel-scuker in the peleton by far. Wiggins is not a wheel-scuker. He's a climber like Basso, that can't really attack and will have to ride people of his wheel. Would you call Basso a wheel sucker ?
Basso is great in wheel sucking his team mates. But that's normal. Nah, he ain't a wheel sucker, did a lot of work himself. Rodriguez is one, always hanging on untill the moment he sees the flamme rouge, and knows he has the power left to gain some seconds....
Wiggins ain't a wheel sucker either, than half of the peloton is (well, to be more exactly, all but one, only the first rider ain't!)
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 02-06-2012 10:11
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Well, if someone is making pace, why should anyone bother riding next to him so that he isn't in his wheel. It's pretty logical to get in someone's wheel if he's making a pace. Those who can do better should attack, those who can't... well, who can blame them for trying to latch on? |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 02-06-2012 10:16
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Wiggins tactic in the mountains is usually to just to time-trial up the mountain, making the pace so hard that nobody has the guts to attack. That's what I call boring and I don't want to see that here.
Obviously it's great for all brits and sky fanboys, but the rest of the cycling fans is yawning in their seats.
Edited by Wilier on 02-06-2012 10:17
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 02-06-2012 10:20
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Wilier wrote:
Wiggins tactic in the mountains is usually to just to time-trial up the mountain, making the pace so hard that nobody has the guts to attack. That's what I call boring and I don't want to see that here.
Obviously it's great for all brits and sky fanboys, but the rest of the cycling fans is yawning in their seats.
I agree with you point, but now you see this is totally different to what avin called, "biggets wheelsucker of modern cycling" And I am arguing that point, because he isn't a wheel-sucker
Whether it's interesting, well for some poeple it is, for some poeple it won't. It's always that way.
Edited by Alakagom on 02-06-2012 10:21
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 02-06-2012 10:27
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Wilier wrote:
Wiggins tactic in the mountains is usually to just to time-trial up the mountain, making the pace so hard that nobody has the guts to attack. That's what I call boring and I don't want to see that here.
Obviously it's great for all brits and sky fanboys, but the rest of the cycling fans is yawning in their seats.
Yeah, it's a boring thing to watch but it's up to the climbers to get some balls and break him - we need more audacious climbers (and dopers) like Pantani back. Anyhow, it's not really wheelsucking. And it's not guaranteed to work.
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| litllemagnum |
Posted on 02-06-2012 10:36
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Alakagom wrote:
Really ?
What did Rodriguez do at Giro on Stage 20 with Hesjedal. Wheel-sucked the shit out of him for 8km and then magically attacked with 1km to go... my god what a achievement.
Valverde is the biggest wheel-scuker in the peleton by far. Wiggins is not a wheel-scuker. He's a climber like Basso, that can't really attack and will have to ride people of his wheel. Would you call Basso a wheel sucker ?
You can't really compare Rodriguez with Wiggins cause Wiggins never attacks and Basso isn't the best of examples too cause apart from the Vuelta last year Wiggins never rode somebody of his wheel He is a good rider though and doesn't wheel-suck more than any other rider. Would be nice if he wins here instead of the Tour. I like him more for one-week stage races 
Pozzato sucks!
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 02-06-2012 10:41
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litllemagnum wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Really ?
What did Rodriguez do at Giro on Stage 20 with Hesjedal. Wheel-sucked the shit out of him for 8km and then magically attacked with 1km to go... my god what a achievement.
Valverde is the biggest wheel-scuker in the peleton by far. Wiggins is not a wheel-scuker. He's a climber like Basso, that can't really attack and will have to ride people of his wheel. Would you call Basso a wheel sucker ?
You can't really compare Rodriguez with Wiggins cause Wiggins never attacks and Basso isn't the best of examples too cause apart from the Vuelta last year Wiggins never rode somebody of his wheel He is a good rider though and doesn't wheel-suck more than any other rider. Would be nice if he wins here instead of the Tour. I like him more for one-week stage races
I'd like to see him win, too. But I'm just so bloody curious where he can go in TDF. According to most people, TDF will be between him and Evans. |
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| solano |
Posted on 02-06-2012 11:55
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Wiggins is trying to win the Tour. He isn't there to entertain people along the way. He will do what he has to do to maximise his chances. Anything else would just be stupid. |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 02-06-2012 12:26
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solano wrote:
Wiggins is trying to win the Tour. He isn't there to entertain people along the way. He will do what he has to do to maximise his chances. Anything else would just be stupid.
Once again, no one is arguing with why he is doing this. The point is that the only way he can win is not exciting. As a fan, I want to see something exciting, not just grinding TT style up a climb then winning every TT along the way.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 02-06-2012 12:30
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solano wrote:
Wiggins is trying to win the Tour. He isn't there to entertain people along the way. He will do what he has to do to maximise his chances. Anything else would just be stupid.
Agreed 100 %.
Plus he's doing with his qualities. It's not easy for rouleurs, I mean people with slow stiches muscles to attack several times in a row in the mountains. They don't have the explosiveness, it's not a matter of attitude. All they can do is either follow or ride a high pace that might whack genuine climbers (guys who can repeat attacks, but struggle to keep a high tempo - they've got an average share of slow and fast stiches muscles). |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 02-06-2012 12:35
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Cannot understand why there are people out there who say Wiggins is boring 
If you want boring you only have to look as far as the Schleck brothers |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 02-06-2012 12:41
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CountArach wrote:
solano wrote:
Wiggins is trying to win the Tour. He isn't there to entertain people along the way. He will do what he has to do to maximise his chances. Anything else would just be stupid.
Once again, no one is arguing with why he is doing this. The point is that the only way he can win is not exciting. As a fan, I want to see something exciting, not just grinding TT style up a climb then winning every TT along the way.
If it's boring, it's not Wiggins' fault, but the climbers' fault for not being able to drop him.
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