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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 23-02-2011 10:51
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Gerdemann was nominated:
https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_357113
Obviously, I found it weird to leave him out, but personally, I don't feel like complaining when I didn't spend time being a selector. If I wanted Gerdemann to be there, I could have chosen to become a selector and voted for him.
That said, I generally think that selectors should pick the best riders rather than just picking whoever's on your team. |
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| beagle |
Posted on 23-02-2011 10:58
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mb2612 wrote:
Kessler is a free agent, so you could have nominated him
everyone else including you could as well, but nobody didn´t ...end of story, Kessler won´t ride WC this year
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| beagle |
Posted on 23-02-2011 11:05
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CrueTrue wrote:
Gerdemann was nominated:
https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_357113
Obviously, I found it weird to leave him out, but personally, I don't feel like complaining when I didn't spend time being a selector. If I wanted Gerdemann to be there, I could have chosen to become a selector and voted for him.
That said, I generally think that selectors should pick the best riders rather than just picking whoever's on your team.
tbh, I was really surprised not to see him in nomination list and would definitelly choose him into TTT squad (instead of another pure TT-ist Barth of course  )
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 23-02-2011 11:13
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Other than British and Italian line ups, I went purely on stats and who I thought would do the best, regardless of team or personal preferrence.
Italian line ups, I went for a hilly leader, and mountainous leader, and a lot of back up. If it was my entire selections there, you'd see what I chose, but it isn't. Other people have a say and so it makes a selection come out the way it does.
British line ups, well, I'm 100% biased for myself, or any links to myself, or any links to riders I like seeing as the British team has no chance of any results anywhere!  |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 23-02-2011 12:19
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Madrazo is too old by the time the U23 Worlds come around. If you remember mb, the only reason he got into Avenir this year was because Avenir's place in the calendar was changed.
Kami, rightly or wrongly, an element of not-liking real life Ricco has hindered you, with a hint of some wanting a better chance for their own rider.
SotD, Castano is similarly unlucky in the tiebreak round, for the final 2 spots versus Lopez Garcia and Arroyo. In terms of the TTTs, hill stat has already been mentioned - but also, nominations were taken for a 9 man team but I was forced to reduce that to 8 men for the startlist to work.
Gerdemann. It is a mistake that he was excluded from the selection process, so consider the German teams pending - Ill be PMing beagle and rjc shortly to see if they wish to change their selection, as well as amending my own German choices. (I forget if I explicitly stated this in the selection topic, but I am a selector for all countries. In countries where I have no rider, I pick the best, in countries where I do have riders, I take the mindset of a team manager picking, like everyone else)
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 23-02-2011 12:45
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I assume it's meant to be GB rather than SA in the TTT, but it's nice to see some more of my riders represented this year. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 23-02-2011 12:48
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Yeh, just a case of wrong team ID
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 23-02-2011 13:19
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Surprising not to see De Kort in the TTT or Plaza in the RR, but if Gesink wins all the 3 main events, I can leave with that
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 23-02-2011 13:21
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Kami wrote:
Rly? Ricco is the best Italian rider behind Cunego and D. Caruso got picked above him in a selection round? RIcco is in every way superior, and is even a big favorite for the win. I fucking picked the 9 best riders in my first selection, which were those 9 - D. Caruso, but + R. Ricco. How egoistic can you be, rly.
If you something in personal against me, then please send me a pm. But otherwise, i see no reason why not to take Ricco. In the back of my head, he is the only one who has actually won hilly classics on PT lvl, even when looking at this season he is still the best choice when it comes to hills.
I quite understand your reaction. I was also surprised it took so long to reach a decision, and even more now seeing the final outcome of the votings. I get that every manager intend to have their own riders in the WC team but in the end the decision must be based in the rider stats/reults rather than the ownership. Also I wasn't expecting Ricco to be left out for riders with less than 75 MON given that even though the hill stat should be the deciding factor here, the profile is rather mountainous and so a climber should have much more chances of winning
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 23-02-2011 13:27
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alexkr00 wrote:
Surprising not to see De Kort in the TTT or Plaza in the RR, but if Gesink wins all the 3 main events, I can leave with that
Yeh, De Kort was the 9th TTT rider (but Plaza didnt get any RR nominations)
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 23-02-2011 18:08
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The Ricco vote went to 3 rounds I think based on memory.
I didn't vote for him in the original selection as I think he's a piece of dirt. I expected he'd get enough votes to be selected so it was surprising when he failed to be selected.
I didn't vote for him in subsequent rounds as I think he's a piece of dirt and thought either of the Caruso's would be better helpers for Ginanni.
I don't think Ginanni will win - but wasn't going to pass up the opportunity of getting him the leadership of a decent Italian team.
All other selections were based mostly on merit. Probably if we'd picked a week before the news of Ricco's second real life f@ck up, I'd have voted for him.
Nothing to do with you kami - all to do with Ricco. |
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| Kami |
Posted on 23-02-2011 18:10
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Valverde is banned irl, yet he's there as n°31. Why do i have to pay, for something that i can't do shit about?
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| SotD |
Posted on 23-02-2011 18:15
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I kinda agree... In the game it's only names, so I can't see why we shouldn't take on the best riders, but people got some principles whichs are hard to move
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| Rin |
Posted on 23-02-2011 18:41
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I think you can't decide now otherwise and let Ricco ride, but I want every manager to be fair in this league in every aspect
Ricco is here just a name he could be also named Pietro Pantalone, but to rob somebodys fun in this league a bit just because you hate the "real rider" and rob a good chance to get the World Championship jersey
I think it's don't fair to Kami..
My proposal is to rename Riccardo Ricco to Pietro Pantalone
And Alberto Contador to American Beef
And Alejandro Valverde to Ale Alejandro
Edited by Rin on 23-02-2011 18:41
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 23-02-2011 19:14
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You don't need to go searching through the Spain team - Sella and Di Luca are riding for Italy. |
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| Kami |
Posted on 23-02-2011 19:18
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fenian_1234 wrote:
You don't need to go searching through the Spain team - Sella and Di Luca are riding for Italy.
And i selected them on the first time, together with Ricco.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 23-02-2011 19:23
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Sheesh, stop ya moaning.
Ricco didn't get in, get over it. At least he won't be asking for such a high a wage next season unlike the winner.
Nocentini didn't get in. Bertagnolli didn't get in. Think how they feel! They wanted to be loyal domestiques, but no. You all cruely voted against them. Do you see me complaining? No. |
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| SotD |
Posted on 23-02-2011 19:41
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Well to be fair neither Nocentini nor Bertagnolli is among the best riders in the game. Ricco is! And Nocentini imo isn't even in top 10 of Italian riders for such a race, so it's not really the best comparison. I do agree though that the teams have been selected and so they are!
But I think every manager is in their best right to feel a bit bummed over stuff like that... It's just getting it out there, and nothing more.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 23-02-2011 19:43
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Too many cooks spoil the broth/food.
Too many race winning options means you don't win. Simple. |
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| SotD |
Posted on 23-02-2011 19:45
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Well I didn't understand that, but you're possibly correct.
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