Best Grand Tour in 2010
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Guido Mukk |
Posted on 20-09-2010 15:53
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ruben wrote:
There can be no question
Giro d'Italia wins this so easily. The first week alone had more excitement than the entire Tour.
And the weak field and falling of Anton made the Vuelta lose interest in the final week
Vuelta was fun enough..even after Anton crash. i did not missed one guy domination on every mountain stages.
Race ..tour was way more interesting then..friends forewer Contadpr-Schleck ..mountain dance |
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Posted on 20-09-2010 15:59
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Giro just the best. Vuelta the worst - Tour in between. |
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Roman |
Posted on 20-09-2010 16:39
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Giro > Tour > Vuelta for me.
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R_Funk |
Posted on 20-09-2010 16:50
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Definitely the Giro. This year was a very hard one, with great views and great battles!
2nd the vuelta and third the tour. |
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HansiBoyo |
Posted on 20-09-2010 17:17
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Vuelta > Giro > Tour
The Heroes: Domenico Pozzovivo & Igor Antón Hernandez
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FreitasPCM |
Posted on 20-09-2010 17:44
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Giro was WAY the best GT of the year. |
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zambeaux |
Posted on 20-09-2010 18:00
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Guido Mukk wrote:
ruben wrote:
There can be no question
Giro d'Italia wins this so easily. The first week alone had more excitement than the entire Tour.
And the weak field and falling of Anton made the Vuelta lose interest in the final week
Vuelta was fun enough..even after Anton crash. i did not missed one guy domination on every mountain stages.
Race ..tour was way more interesting then..friends forewer Contadpr-Schleck ..mountain dance
Well, Antón wasn't there when the real mountain started (Pal is more of a Montevergine than a Campitello Maltese, really) and we don't know how he'd have responded, and how the others would have acted, starting with Mosquera on days like Coto Bello. He was the best until then, but that wasn't a total domination like Rominger in 1994 (with a similar parcours that didn't favour strategy at all), and Euskaltel, having a strong field, was no Mapei-Clas, not even 2009 Caisse. |
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Tuco the Ugly |
Posted on 20-09-2010 18:18
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FreitasPCM wrote:
Giro was WAY the best GT of the year.
Agreed. The Giro was epic.
Vuelta was entertaining throughout, and the Tour had its moments. |
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acac |
Posted on 20-09-2010 18:22
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the tour
the schleck vs contador figth was close.
viva la tour(i have no idea if this is corect ) |
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issoisso |
Posted on 20-09-2010 18:33
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I think it's pretty unanimous with the hardcore fans, no?
The Giro was awesome. No stage was predictable. When you have the GC contenders attacking on flat stages, nothing's predictable.
zambeaux wrote:
Well, Antón wasn't there when the real mountain started (Pal is more of a Montevergine than a Campitello Maltese, really) and we don't know how he'd have responded, and how the others would have acted, starting with Mosquera on days like Coto Bello. He was the best until then, but that wasn't a total domination like Rominger in 1994 (with a similar parcours that didn't favour strategy at all), and Euskaltel, having a strong field, was no Mapei-Clas, not even 2009 Caisse.
While I agree with your main point, I have two things to note:
1. Campitello Matese isn't really a proper comparison. There's a reason RCS use it as an interchange with the Montevergine and other climbs as the "easy climb that barely causes gaps" to be randomly plugged in as the first mountain stage.
2. Antón showed in April that his Vuelta level wasn't a one-off. Plus he was much fresher than anyone bar Mosquera. I'm pretty sure he'd have kept it up. He even mentioned on the day to Andorra that he felt pretty awful that day....yet he still dropped everyone.
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Posted on 20-09-2010 18:35
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The Giro d'Italia was definitely one of the best sports moments of the entire year for me. Wet gravel roads, 56 men breakaway, Zoncolan, Plan de Corones etc.. It pretty much had everything you could wish for. The other GTs this year simply doesn't come close. |
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Wilier |
Posted on 20-09-2010 18:42
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Giro definately |
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valverde321 |
Posted on 20-09-2010 18:45
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Tour definately. For canadians.
The Giro had something special about it and got my vote. But the side stories of the Tour were what made it exciting in the first place. Renshaw, headbutt, Schleck chaingate, Oil Slick, Podium Girls.
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zambeaux |
Posted on 20-09-2010 21:09
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issoisso wrote:
I think it's pretty unanimous with the hardcore fans, no?
The Giro was awesome. No stage was predictable. When you have the GC contenders attacking on flat stages, nothing's predictable.
zambeaux wrote:
Well, Antón wasn't there when the real mountain started (Pal is more of a Montevergine than a Campitello Maltese, really) and we don't know how he'd have responded, and how the others would have acted, starting with Mosquera on days like Coto Bello. He was the best until then, but that wasn't a total domination like Rominger in 1994 (with a similar parcours that didn't favour strategy at all), and Euskaltel, having a strong field, was no Mapei-Clas, not even 2009 Caisse.
While I agree with your main point, I have two things to note:
1. Campitello Matese isn't really a proper comparison. There's a reason RCS use it as an interchange with the Montevergine and other climbs as the "easy climb that barely causes gaps" to be randomly plugged in as the first mountain stage.
2. Antón showed in April that his Vuelta level wasn't a one-off. Plus he was much fresher than anyone bar Mosquera. I'm pretty sure he'd have kept it up. He even mentioned on the day to Andorra that he felt pretty awful that day....yet he still dropped everyone.
1- Well, I think Campitello is harder than Montevergine (Limone Piemonte has assumed that role some time in this last decade, if i'm not wrong), or at least uses to make some differences, something Montevergine hardly ever does (unless we count dropping Pantani in 2001 ). But it's true that I exxagerated on the comparison: Pal is clearly harder than Montevergine and practically on par with Campitello (Pal is longer, but its medium gradient is inferior, and well, the road is almost a highway). It was the first actual mountain top finish (I guess we can consider Xorret del Catà as an equivalent to Mende), and that's why I thought of those two Giro d'Italia finales.
2- I agree, I believe that he was the strongest of the field and his victory was likely, but, for example, what if Bruseghin had saved the Peña Cabarga day as well? his form looked to be going up too, he may have been able to hold up in the mountains on the level of Frank & co, and in theory he's a better time trialist than Nibali. We could also note that he's way more experienced and those many days in the red jersey may have put a lot of pressure on Antón. |
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Posted on 20-09-2010 21:31
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in the tour they were already being a bitch in the 3 stage to spa by waiting cause every body failed the descend and then schleck and contador were obiously the best but every one knew contador would beat schleck in the TT which he did not so good exualy in the begin it was a litlle fun in the sprints cause cavendish didn't won but when he started to it beginned to pis e off(he's just to good). the vuelta was pretty nice but not that exciting when Anton fall(like he always does in a good position) and then you kinda hoped Rodriquez rode a amazing TT ofcourse he didn't and then Nibali won it Mosquera held it excitin, but in the earlier mountain stages you saw they were quiet close every time and Nibali learned from stages before he had to ride his one speed. and the Giro was just the most fun there was a real fight between Basso and Evans. Basso was slightly better in the mountains and Evans is a bit better in TT and then you had Vino who played a great roll in the Tour+Giro and Scarponi not to forget was also doing a great Job |
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knasen |
Posted on 20-09-2010 21:32
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I must rank the Grand Tours like almost everybody else. Giro>Vuelta>Tour
The Giro is the most fun because people think less in that GT and race more. And less thinking in cycling is equal to more fun. 57man breakaway and the attacks of some of the favourites on stage 12. All stages in the Giro had something. I still remember the stage ARASHIRO attack in the end but PINEAU won the stage.
The problem with the Tour is that Schleck is kind of stupid. The day he was better than Contador was the stage to Morzine-Avoriaz. But then after the stage he said something like that it will come better days to attack. Well a chain problem later and he maybe reckons that he must use EVERY chance he haft to gain time on Contador. But at least we had more attacks in this years Tour than last year. Where Contador almost won the whole tour on two attacks, Andorra and Verbier.
But the two most fun stages was Arenberg who non of the favourites wanted and the first hour in the stage to Pau. Where they did as I hope they do more. Think less about the consequences and race more.
I hope someone understand a bit what I mean.
Edited by knasen on 20-09-2010 21:33
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tonyspen |
Posted on 20-09-2010 21:42
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The Giro !!! and WHAT A GIRO !!! that breakway with 50 riders dammm !!!
the Tour of France seems like a poker game to me and vuelta didn't get the best riders |
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valverde321 |
Posted on 20-09-2010 21:52
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I thought the Amgen Tour of California was the 4th best GT.
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issoisso |
Posted on 20-09-2010 22:25
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knasen wrote:
The problem with the Tour is that Schleck is kind of stupid. The day he was better than Contador was the stage to Morzine-Avoriaz. But then after the stage he said something like that it will come better days to attack. Well a chain problem later and he maybe reckons that he must use EVERY chance he haft to gain time on Contador. But at least we had more attacks in this years Tour than last year. Where Contador almost won the whole tour on two attacks, Andorra and Verbier.
But the two most fun stages was Arenberg who non of the favourites wanted and the first hour in the stage to Pau. Where they did as I hope they do more. Think less about the consequences and race more.
I hope someone understand a bit what I mean.
The funny bit is that Riis himself said after he won the Tour that the big lesson he learned in his career from Laurent Fignon is that when you have a chance to gain time YOU TAKE IT NO MATTER WHAT.
But A. Schleck's mentality is "Me > World", so he was far too confident for his own good. Tough.
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Guido Mukk |
Posted on 20-09-2010 22:53
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valverde321 wrote:
I thought the Amgen Tour of California was the 4th best GT.
hah..what?
yeaah it had one best thing..Radioschack did not ride Giro thanks for that. After that they did not get invited to Vuelta.. Reason..Ignoring Giro. So ..Amgen race was nice.
Edited by Guido Mukk on 20-09-2010 22:55
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