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| Levi4life |
Posted on 01-08-2010 23:26
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Let's be honest. Commando raids against Iran would be pretty badass. First off Israel would take care of the Iranian nuclear program, and somebody would make a sweet movie about. Two birds with one war.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 01-08-2010 23:27
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kumazan wrote:
Oh, I clicked to enter PCM.Daily and somehow I ended up in politics forum.
My two cents: nationalism=bad.
As is religion. Which, given scientific evidence is just absolutely hilarious that people still somehow think is true 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 01-08-2010 23:46
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Deadpool wrote:
So what, every Israeli is a stuck up asshole who thinks he/she is better than any other person on the planet?
Even though I said absolutely nothing like that, "someone" (name withheld, obviously) came to tell me on messenger after I posted that, that you'd do your best to turn this into an argument.
You're usually rational. But whenever a subject that is even remotely connected to Judaism comes to the fore, you turn into a troll. It's tiring.
21:39:17 _______ says:
u know deadpool is going to do his best to turn this into an argument right
21:40:48 issoisso says:
is there any doubt?
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Frankly, Israel was founded on the notion that 6 million (really 7) of us walked to our deaths in the Holocaust, and that will never happen again. And with that guarantee comes a very strong "don't fuck with us" attitude, which every Israeli I have ever known has.
Nationalism is what has kept the Jewish people alive for the last three and a half thousand years, so no, it isn't stupid. And we're going to get a nice reminder about that thanks to cycling in 5 days.
Nationalism has kept them alive?
I can't begin to count the ways in which that is ridiculous.
Anyway, Godwin's law. Whatever argument there was, you've lost it.
Here's a hint: next time I mention that I'm appalled at the attitude of the israelis that I've personally met, try not to act like it's a curse on anything Jewish. It has nothing to do with religion, and your attitude is not just annoying. It's discriminatory and bigoted.
However much you refuse to admit it, you know full well that the fact you react by foaming at the mouth anytime anyone dares to suggest someone israeli isn't perfect, just shows how bigoted you really are. You mention those who have persecuted the jewish, but you're just as bigoted as they are. You have the same ridiculous ideas of superiority, that certain people are perfect and nothing can be said of them unless it's overwhelmingly positive.
Which is why I'm done with this.
Grow up.
Edited by issoisso on 01-08-2010 23:50
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| Crommy |
Posted on 01-08-2010 23:57
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"Religion poisons everything"
Words from Christopher Hitchens. I whole-heartedly agree.
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Posted on 02-08-2010 00:13
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issoisso wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
So what, every Israeli is a stuck up asshole who thinks he/she is better than any other person on the planet?
Even though I said absolutely nothing like that, "someone" (name withheld, obviously) came to tell me on messenger after I posted that, that you'd do your best to turn this into an argument.
You're usually rational. But whenever a subject that is even remotely connected to Judaism comes to the fore, you turn into a troll. It's tiring.
21:39:17 _______ says:
u know deadpool is going to do his best to turn this into an argument right
21:40:48 issoisso says:
is there any doubt?
Deadpool wrote:
Frankly, Israel was founded on the notion that 6 million (really 7) of us walked to our deaths in the Holocaust, and that will never happen again. And with that guarantee comes a very strong "don't fuck with us" attitude, which every Israeli I have ever known has.
Nationalism is what has kept the Jewish people alive for the last three and a half thousand years, so no, it isn't stupid. And we're going to get a nice reminder about that thanks to cycling in 5 days.
Nationalism has kept them alive?
I can't begin to count the ways in which that is ridiculous.
Anyway, Godwin's law. Whatever argument there was, you've lost it.
Here's a hint: next time I mention that I'm appalled at the attitude of the israelis that I've personally met, try not to act like it's a curse on anything Jewish. It has nothing to do with religion, and your attitude is not just annoying. It's discriminatory and bigoted.
However much you refuse to admit it, you know full well that the fact you react by foaming at the mouth anytime anyone dares to suggest someone israeli isn't perfect, just shows how bigoted you really are. You mention those who have persecuted the jewish, but you're just as bigoted as they are. You have the same ridiculous ideas of superiority, that certain people are perfect and nothing can be said of them unless it's overwhelmingly positive.
Which is why I'm done with this.
Grow up.
Wait, hold on, I read too much into something? As you wrote
Sadly, every person from that poster's country I've ever met (in person) has been like that. Which, to me, was suprising, horrifying and disgusting in equal measure.
To which I replied there is a damn good reason that they are, for reasons involving being persecuted because of religion.
You then pulled Godwin's Law out, for no specific reason, and preceded to say I'm a bigoted idiot for saying that a people who have a history of getting killed everywhere they have ever lived are not terrible people for having an attitude that is used as a mechanism to defend themselves in a place where they once again are significantly under threat.
And the dumbest thing you did was try and separate Israell from Judaism. I don't even know were to start on that.
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Posted on 02-08-2010 00:14
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Crommy wrote:
"Religion poisons everything"
Words from Christopher Hitchens. I whole-heartedly agree.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 02-08-2010 00:14
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News in August:
(back to cycling... cough)
Pre-released, hidden, not meant to be told cycling domestic UK scene news:
Yanto Barker is rumoured to be setting up his own team (again), probably under the name of something like Le Col - Colnago (again). Who will be in that team? Yanto, Steve Lampier and Chris Opie. The latter two both ride with Yanto currently at Pendragon - Le Col- Colnago, and will probably leave with him.
Pendragon, whatever name they will fall under, have supposedly "signed" Marcin Biobolocki, Will Bergfelt and one more from the Big Maggys squad. To those who don't know the UK amateur scene, Marcin is a big Polish bloke who was pretty much the only guy to be able to cope with Russell Downing's domination last season of the Premier Calender races. This year he's consistantly good at everything he does, but I don't think he's won anything big yet (correct me if I'm wrong).
Why do these bits of information matter?
Pendragon are aiming to go Continental next season (I no longer know if they will because of the "split" , and I presume that Yanto will want to go Continental too.
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Posted on 02-08-2010 00:17
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Deadpool wrote:
Crommy wrote:
"Religion poisons everything"
Words from Christopher Hitchens. I whole-heartedly agree.
Being Jewish is far more than being a follower of the Jewish religion. There is a reason most people consider it to be an ethnicity.
It's called Judaism. Perhaps it might be good to learn that?
Also, on a previous post of yours, hate to tell you, but every Religion [followers of] is persecuted in countless countries across the globe, it's not the World vs. You. It really isn't.
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Posted on 02-08-2010 00:23
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rjc_43 wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Crommy wrote:
"Religion poisons everything"
Words from Christopher Hitchens. I whole-heartedly agree.
Being Jewish is far more than being a follower of the Jewish religion. There is a reason most people consider it to be an ethnicity.
It's called Judaism. Perhaps it might be good to learn that?
Also, on a previous post of yours, hate to tell you, but every Religion [followers of] is persecuted in countless countries across the globe, it's not the World vs. You. It really isn't.
True, but give me another religion that gets anywhere close to the amount we've had to endure and I'll buy you a cookie.
And Jewish religion and Judaism are interchangeable, I hear Jewish religion just as often if not more.
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Posted on 02-08-2010 00:40
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Deadpool wrote:
Crommy wrote:
"Religion poisons everything"
Words from Christopher Hitchens. I whole-heartedly agree.
Being Jewish is far more than being a follower of the Jewish religion. There is a reason most people consider it to be an ethnicity.
An ethnicity which means you have to follow the Jewish religion (a patently ridiculous religion (as with all others if you look at the evidence)) 
Anyway, as an ex-moderator (yea, I'm pulling no rank whatsoever), I'll stick my neck out here and say move this to Café Pedro or PMs or msn, it's not News in August.
Back on subject
Li Fuyu -> B sample positive too
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| HansiBoyo |
Posted on 02-08-2010 01:49
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Deadpool wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Crommy wrote:
"Religion poisons everything"
Words from Christopher Hitchens. I whole-heartedly agree.
Being Jewish is far more than being a follower of the Jewish religion. There is a reason most people consider it to be an ethnicity.
It's called Judaism. Perhaps it might be good to learn that?
Also, on a previous post of yours, hate to tell you, but every Religion [followers of] is persecuted in countless countries across the globe, it's not the World vs. You. It really isn't.
True, but give me another religion that gets anywhere close to the amount we've had to endure and I'll buy you a cookie.
And Jewish religion and Judaism are interchangeable, I hear Jewish religion just as often if not more.
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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 02-08-2010 05:37
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Gentlemen, gentlemen back to your corners. Let's return the discussion back to cycling. You are not going to get anywhere with talks on nationalism, religion or politics. This is not the place for it.
I don't even have a horse in this race and some of the comments are pretty insulting. I don't think you guys know how insulting the comments you are making actually are. |
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| acac |
Posted on 02-08-2010 07:16
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first of all:when i wrote the post i didnt though it will drag this so soory to anyone that think it was on purpos.
second:i was just very haapy to see an isreli becomes pro and that is not bad in way.
also my trainer is the same trainer that he had as a kid so now i can hope that i will become a pro.
lastly:no one needs to hurt judiasim nor islam and not cristins.and the prove the we all can live combaind is:isreal usa relation,isreal egypt relaiton and the israel jurden relation.
p.s:the only reson that isreal attacks it becose someone is thretin her.in case you didnt know our milatry name is israel defens force.
i have nothing mor to say basicly.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 02-08-2010 07:58
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*sighs*
Richie Porte is yet to re-sign with SaxoBank. My thinking is that he'll be the new GC blokey for them. Probably put into the Tour next season will unreasonable expectations upon his shoulders, to which he will deliver upon.
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 02-08-2010 08:02
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KenL wrote:
I think a little national pride is great, especially in cycling...I am a Riis Cycling team supporter in whatever form they take (Saxobank, CSC, Specialized-Sungard)
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You're canadian... Riis... is... not canadian...
*confuzzled*
But to discuss actual cycling news (ARGH THE PUN): "Li Fuyu -> B sample positive too"
Dont that make him yet another guy who left US Postal/Discovery and then tested positive?
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Posted on 02-08-2010 09:43
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Waghlon wrote:
But to discuss actual cycling news (ARGH THE PUN): "Li Fuyu -> B sample positive too"
Dont that make him yet another guy who left US Postal/Discovery and then tested positive?
Well no. He's still in the system --> Radioshack.
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Posted on 02-08-2010 09:56
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Thats actually quite important then right? It shows there is a crack in the Internationally Renowned Doctors Staff Of Lance Armstrong And Friends Inc..
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-08-2010 10:14
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Waghlon wrote:
Thats actually quite important then right? It shows there is a crack in the Internationally Renowned Doctors Staff Of Lance Armstrong And Friends Inc..
Just one? I can name Postal riders who tested positive while riding for the team.
Heck, I can name one who got caught with drugs on him by the italian police.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 02-08-2010 10:50
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Don't let us stop you.
We like RadioShit bashing.
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Posted on 02-08-2010 11:23
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Aquarius wrote:
Nationalism is crap.
Meanwhile, the power outputs figures have finally surfaced on cyclismag. Contador and Schleck were both less powerful than last year, of course Contador lost a bit more than Schleck.
Still, despite the quite coward racing, the figures are high, too high to be natural that is.
Yeah, same level as Armstrong-Basso in prime era in fact.
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