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Fiandre
rjc_43 wrote:
The Tour being the pinnacle of a riders career, whether it's a stage win, or just to finish the race


Sounds typically Anglo Saxon. It's not because many people only know the Tour de France that there is only one important race.
 
rjc_43
Fiandre wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
The Tour being the pinnacle of a riders career, whether it's a stage win, or just to finish the race


Sounds typically Anglo Saxon. It's not because many people only know the Tour de France that there is only one important race.


I'm not saying it's the only one important race. However, if you were to ask any single professional rider, which race they'd like to take part in. I can bet damn sure that everyone would have the Tour as one of their top few races to compete in. Even if it's just to finish it.
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mrlol
rjc_43 wrote:
Fiandre wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
The Tour being the pinnacle of a riders career, whether it's a stage win, or just to finish the race


Sounds typically Anglo Saxon. It's not because many people only know the Tour de France that there is only one important race.


I'm not saying it's the only one important race. However, if you were to ask any single professional rider, which race they'd like to take part in. I can bet damn sure that everyone would have the Tour as one of their top few races to compete in. Even if it's just to finish it.


Yeah. It's not just the importance of the race. The Tour is almost Mythical.
 
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Fiandre
rjc_43 wrote:
I'm not saying it's the only one important race. However, if you were to ask any single professional rider, which race they'd like to take part in. I can bet damn sure that everyone would have the Tour as one of their top few races to compete in. Even if it's just to finish it.


And if you ask any rider in which race he doesn't want to start anymore, he'll also answer the Tour *lol* ;-)

No seriously, you're right of course, even though some other races are quite inspiring too. In my opinion, the Tour is a bit overestimated, even though it is the most important race of the year. But that's just a personal opinion.
 
mrlol
Fiandre wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
I'm not saying it's the only one important race. However, if you were to ask any single professional rider, which race they'd like to take part in. I can bet damn sure that everyone would have the Tour as one of their top few races to compete in. Even if it's just to finish it.


In my opinion, the Tour is a bit overestimated, even though it is the most important race of the year. But that's just a personal opinion.


It make sense that it's overestimated. Since most people find it the most important race if the year, expectations are high. But when it comes down to the racing, the riders are the same riders that race any other race, so it's not much different.

But you just gotta love everything organized around the Tour. If you've ever visited a start or mainly a finish place, you know what I mean.
 
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Best Rider: Bettini in my mind he was the best classics rider of the decade.
Biggest Disappointment: The beloki crash

Biggest Surprise: Cunego He was being compared to armstrong as a young rider but hasn't won anything big since the giro win. And also that Bradley Wiggins can climb.
Best Team: Team CSC Saxo-Bank 2008. I just think this might have been the best stage racing team ever.AMybe not the most superstars nut the team got along well it seemed.
Best Race: 2007 Tour De France. I think it was really exciting every competition was really close, the yellow the green. Plus it had the best lineup of riders with almost every team having a potential winner it seemed.
Most Disappointing Race: '09 tour because everyone in the world i'm sure could tell contador was going to win as soon as he pulled on the yellow on stage fourteen. Just really boring I mean Sprint stages everyone knew Cav would win them all he had no competition. I guess Astana made it boring though.

Best Moment: To me when Ryder Hesjedal won a stage in the '09 Vuelta. Or Lance winning the tour for the 7th time. Just because of the feat.

Worst Moment: When Valverde Doped he was my favourite rider and then I come home from school check the news and bam.

Moment You'll Always Remember: Linus Gerdemann Descending on stage seven of 07 tour. I don't know a reason.

Biggest Story:Lance coming back but this story was way to exagerated he barely won anything. Here in Canada in't the only thing I heard about cycling on a weekly basis.
Best Story: Lot's of good ones

Worst Story: Doping........

P.s In Canada the only cycling on tv is the Tour the rest I watch on youtube which usually isn't English so it's hard to find stuff.

 
Deadpool
ruben wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
thats your opinion

now answer the rest of the questions
you answer my question first.
How does Boonen even rate up against Bettini?

He simply doesn't


Yes, I do realize that simply in terms of the quality his Palmares, Bettini blows Boonen out of the water. I have a reason that I don't have Bettini anywhere near even my top 10, but I don't feel like starting an argument with you about it (and no, it has nothing to do with doping). Because of that, I move Boonen up to #1.
Edited by Deadpool on 30-12-2009 03:10
 
fenian_1234
Deadpool wrote:Yes, I do realize that simply in terms of the quality his Palmares, Bettini blows Boonen out of the water.


Without bothering to look it up, I'd say that that is a massive overstatement and might not even be true.Wink
 
Deadpool
fenian_1234 wrote:
Deadpool wrote:Yes, I do realize that simply in terms of the quality his Palmares, Bettini blows Boonen out of the water.


Without bothering to look it up, I'd say that that is a massive overstatement and might not even be true.Wink


*looks around suspiciously*

It is an overstatement, but I'm trying to get ruben to stop bothering me, now buzz off Pfft
Edited by Deadpool on 30-12-2009 03:41
 
fenian_1234
OK. Wink
 
fenian_1234
Been having a think about this today.

Best Rider: Lance Armstrong - pity he is also the rider I most dislike.

Biggest Disappointment: Operation Puerto and its aftermath.

Biggest Surprise: That Cavendish was able to establish himself as a top sprinter as quickly as he did.

Best Team: Fassa Bortolo, c. 2003. CSC would have to be 2nd, c. 2005.

Best Race: Stage 17 of the 2006 Tour de France. Absolutely stunning ride. This and stage 16 were the best two days racing of the decade.

Most Disappointing Race: 2009 Tour de France. It barely even qualified as a race.

Best Moment: Each of the times Paris-Roubaix hit the Arenburg trench over the last decade.

Worst Moment: Jan Ullrich's career finishing the way it did - especially as someone else involved in exactly the same thing continues to ride and reap the rewards and won his first GT last season.

Moment You'll Always Remember: Ballan and Hoste fighting for the win at Flanders. The last couple of hundred meters was real life in slow motion.

Biggest Story: The rise and rise and rise of the TdF.

Best Story: Pro Cycling is still around and the next 10 years will probably be pretty similar to the last 10 years. It's all swings and roundabouts.

Worst Story: Doping and how some people still feel betrayed when one of 'their' riders does it. Illustrated well by ProCycling magazine's fervent anti-doping stance. Btw, loved their feature on Zirbel last month. :lol:
 
markene2
Best Rider: For me its Alexandre Vinokourov. I know he dident win nearly as much as any rider. But he is me favorite rider<3

Biggest Disappointment: Joseba Beloki. Ruined his carrer when he crashed in the tdf 2003.

Biggest Surprise: Alberto Contador.

Best Team: US Postal

Best Race: 2006 Vuelta

Most Disappointing Race: 2009 Tour de France. Just a fancy story betwen Lance and Alberto.

Best Moment: When Vino wins or attacks Wink

Worst Moment: When Vino got caught at the 2007 tdf. Cant blame him realy. Anyway a fan stands by no mater what. Else your a giant pussy.

Moment You'll Always Remember: When Vinokourov attacked Valverde in the downhill section. And took the leaders yearsy in 2006.

Biggest Story: Lance comback.

Best Story: Vinos comback.

Worst Story: ......
 
Setzel
Best Rider: Jan Ullrich

Biggest Disappointment: Beloki '03

Biggest Surprise: Jan Ullrich 97 TdF win (Epic)

Best Team: Mapei

Best Race: Paris Roubaix

Most Disappointing Race : Milano San Remo too long too boring

Best Moment: Lance retiring

Worst Moment: Lance coming back

Moment You'll Always Remember : Cunego winning Giro

Biggest Story: That cycling still exists after all the scandals

Best Story: Rebellin finnaly got caught Grin

Worst Story Lance coming back grr
Eating my daily Breakfast at 9 pm

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issoisso
Setzel, do you even know what a decade is? Pfft
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
 
Setzel
issoisso wrote:
Setzel, do you even know what a decade is? Pfft




this decade is lance boredom fest so i spiced it a little Grin
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ruben
ok i nominate eddy merckx best rider
 
Gustavovskiy
Best Rider: Bettini

Biggest Disappointment: among them all probably UCI

Biggest Surprise: I'll name 2 both in 04: Cunego's Giro and Paulinho's Silver Medal

Best Team: Mapei/Quick-Step

Best Race: I don't know maybe Giro 07... I know I know lots of dope going around but I'd never seen anything like the Zoncolan

Most Disappointing Race : Tour de Failure 06

Best Moment: That Giro stage which had a finish with all the peloton skating in the wet road

Worst Moment: B.Neves death

Moment You'll Always Remember : Theo Bos wrestling in Turkey

Biggest Story: Back to the Future by Lance Primadona Armstrong

Best Story: Boonen caught with cocaine... again!

Worst Story: many... maybe this one: https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armst...-entourage
Edited by Gustavovskiy on 30-12-2009 22:48
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issoisso
Gustavovskiy wrote:
Biggest Surprise: (...) Paulinho's Silver Medal


Good point. Hadn't thought of that one. Really came out of nowhere. When Bettini attacked and Vino, Ullrich and everyone else gave their absolute maximum to stay with him on that climb and only Paulinho could do it......my jaw went to the floor

"I'm not seeing right"
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
 
doddy13
markene2 wrote:
Best Rider: For me its Alexandre Vinokourov. I know he dident win nearly as much as any rider. But he is me favorite rider<3
Best Race: 2006 Vuelta
Best Moment: When Vino wins or attacks Wink
Worst Moment: When Vino got caught at the 2007 tdf. Cant blame him realy. Anyway a fan stands by no mater what. Else your a giant pussy.
Moment You'll Always Remember: When Vinokourov attacked Valverde in the downhill section. And took the leaders yearsy in 2006.
Best Story: Vinos comback.


oh no.
That is all.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
 
ihavenofingerprints
i just loved this bit
Cant blame him realy

for what? being doped up to his eyeballs and then, once he got caught, showing absolutely no remorse, no apology, not even admitting to it?
yeah, we can blame him for that.
 
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