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Criterium du Dauphine Libere Discussion
SportingNonsense
A good gain for Intxausti on most rivals there - Castano is hardly consistent either, so the race is far from over.
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p3druh
Too little too late for Fothen on that stage...

Edit: Oh and Fenian, could you please point out which riders are in the breakaway come the following stages? Because I usually like to know which of my riders made it to the BOTD. If you could do it, it would be great Wink
Edited by p3druh on 11-11-2009 19:41
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fenian_1234
p3druh wrote:Edit: Oh and Fenian, could you please point out which riders are in the breakaway come the following stages? Because I usually like to know which of my riders made it to the BOTD. If you could do it, it would be great Wink


I've already written up the next stage, so it won't be for that one.

I'll try for the final stage - let's hope for a small break as if one contains 20 riders or so, I'm not sure I'll be able to do it.

(Reasons I haven't done it so far as 1. I don't really care if they don't win. 2. For Vespa and Eurosport, it is nearly always the same rider or two who tries to get into a break, so for me it's boring when I see Knees or Garzelli in a break again. 3. For the above and it's time consuming enough already. Wink)
 
CrueTrue
Awful - come on, Dekker! This is your race.
 
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SotD
Wow, what a brilliant ride from Castaño, even only 1 day after his crash. Let's hope he can keep it up, and take a podium in this race.
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SportingNonsense
Gadret, wow, didnt see that coming.

Intxausti still on for a podium though, thats good
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SotD
Hmm not a good performance, but still a good GC result. Let's hope Castaño don't lose anymore valuable time now...
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CrueTrue
That's just stupid, throwing away the win. Not that 2nd is bad, but come on ... Gadret?
 
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SportingNonsense
Im happy with 3rd for Intxausti, and it gives hope for a Top 5 position at the Tour.
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SotD
Losing 5 spots in 2 stages isn't good enough from Castaño... Too bad really...
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SportingNonsense
SotD wrote:
Losing 5 spots in 2 stages isn't good enough from Castaño... Too bad really...


So thats starting the race hoping for better than 9th, but doubting it, to being fairly dissapointed by 6th + a stage win from him?
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SotD
Well you are qouting one thing, and referring to another... From the start of the race I would've been happily surprised to see a 6th place, but when placed 1st with only 2 stages left I can't be unhappy?

Basically what I do is saying that those 2 last stages weren't all that well, and from my point of view, where they? If Castaño hadn't had a massive lead to a lot of riders he would have probably struggled to do that 9th place with those last two stages.

Why is it you need to attack me every time I feel my riders are underperforming a bit? I don't attack you when your riders do so...
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SportingNonsense
SotD wrote:
Well you are qouting one thing, and referring to another... From the start of the race I would've been happily surprised to see a 6th place, but when placed 1st with only 2 stages left I can't be unhappy?

Basically what I do is saying that those 2 last stages weren't all that well, and from my point of view, where they? If Castaño hadn't had a massive lead to a lot of riders he would have probably struggled to do that 9th place with those last two stages.

Why is it you need to attack me every time I feel my riders are underperforming a bit? I don't attack you when your riders do so...


It wasnt an attack, it was a query.

If youd be happy with 6th at the start of the race, you should be equally happy with 6th at the end, regardless of what happens in between. 6th isnt Castano underperforming, its him benefiting from having a great stage win that ultimately means he finishes higher than expected. Surely thats a good thing for you? Perhaps leading a GrandTour with 2 stages left, you could be dissapointed with ending 6th, but not so much in a race like this where the final 2 stages are perhaps the most important.
I wonder would you have preferred it if Castano was solid, perhaps unspectacular, and took 6th without top stage results, rather than how it turned out here.

And since you bring in my riders, lets look at the GP of Wales. Roche gets overtaken so close to the line - am I dissapointed that he didnt win? Of course not, the result is still much better than expected. (1st to 3rd may seem not so bad to you, but looking at it competitively, it is half the amount of ranking points)
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SotD
Well we misunderstood one another then.

I agree with you, but I still think I can be a bit dissapointed with the last 2 stages, where Castaño didn't do all to well. He could've easily been in the front group of the final stage, hence getting 4th instead of 6th. I would've been dissapointed if he would've dropped from 7th to 9th in that stage aswell seeing how it turned out. It didn't look all that hard, and basically the reason for his lost minute were due to bad placing, rather than poor strenght.

I haven't seen much of the CT races to be honest. My team is so far from the others that I won't be too interested in it until next season :-)
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SportingNonsense
SotD wrote:
I haven't seen much of the CT races to be honest. My team is so far from the others that I won't be too interested in it until next season :-)


Well if you didnt see it at the time, check out one of the first few stages of Bayern Rundfahrt for a decent result for Team Ultimate.


Back to the Dauphine > Rankings update for it will come after Tour de Suisse
Edited by SportingNonsense on 14-11-2009 13:18
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fenian_1234
CrueTrue wrote:
That's just stupid, throwing away the win. Not that 2nd is bad, but come on ... Gadret?


It's unfortunate that the gameplay is not a little more realistic. Gadret didn't even have a team mate with him on the final climb. He would have been eaten alive in all probability in real life.
 
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