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General Career Discussion 2013
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| ulle94 |
Posted on 20-05-2014 20:49
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Juanes98pcm wrote:
Try to win giro with kreu and contador tour and vuelta.
Exactly what i tried last season. Kreuziger ended number 2 in the Giro, like 5 minutes behind Nibali who was invincible 
The Tour, i won with Contador - though I only had expectations about top-3. But to my surprise Froome's form was really messed up (he ended number 6!!!)
All the big stars skipped the Vuelta, so i could easily win in front of Horner and Henao  |
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| ulle94 |
Posted on 20-05-2014 20:54
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Jesleyh wrote:
That's crazy 
Contador to do Tour seems okay, but Giro-Tour and Tour-Vuelta is annoying to me, becuase you can't do anything in the rest of the season, because he'd be too tired.
Kreuziger could do Giro + Vuelta, but he can't really do Ardennes then, and Sagan will have trouble with LBL at least.
Exactly! Contador complained about to few races because i didnt really use him before the Tour...
EDIT: Maybe this program for Kreuziger could work? 
Edited by ulle94 on 20-05-2014 20:56
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| Smoku |
Posted on 21-05-2014 09:46
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I used Kwiato for Ardennes (2) Suisse (2) France (1 in last week) Pologne (2) Vuelta (2), WCh (2) Lombardia (3) - no problems with tiredness until the very end. And 2 is well enough to perform. Happiness finished on 85 (but it doesn't matter). So it's totally easy to do two GTs one season.
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| Leonoel |
Posted on 21-05-2014 10:14
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Hello,
just started a career with the 2014 PCM DB and while doing most of the training schedules and saison goals I was shocked to see the TDF-route with no less than 176 time trial kilometers?! Find it quite too much for a modern cycling TDF-route, so my question can I still change the TDF-version to be played in the first season in deleting the stages of this variant in CM_stages?
Or is it too late and I have to start a new career and do everything again? |
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| Selwink |
Posted on 21-05-2014 10:18
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No, you can change the variant. In STA_Race change gene_sz_currentvariant and in STA_Stage change gene_sz_variant for every stage.
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| Selwink |
Posted on 21-05-2014 10:24
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ulle94 wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
That's crazy
Contador to do Tour seems okay, but Giro-Tour and Tour-Vuelta is annoying to me, becuase you can't do anything in the rest of the season, because he'd be too tired.
Kreuziger could do Giro + Vuelta, but he can't really do Ardennes then, and Sagan will have trouble with LBL at least.
Exactly! Contador complained about to few races because i didnt really use him before the Tour...
EDIT: Maybe this program for Kreuziger could work?
It worked for me with OGE, Kreuziger could do top-5s in Ardennes, 2nd in Giro and win the Vuelta, with 80MO and 78HI
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| Leonoel |
Posted on 21-05-2014 10:33
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No, you can change the variant. In STA_Race change gene_sz_currentvariant and in STA_Stage change gene_sz_variant for every stage.
Ah ok, thanks a lot. "fkIDfirststage", "fkIDlaststage" and "fkIDclimat" (of each stage) will then update automatically when I do it, I suggest?
Is there a list of the variants with their names so I can choose the one I would prefer? Otherwise I would not know in what I should change "v3-bigggassi-2002" and the stage names.
EDIT: okay, I could look in CM_stages of course and pick one, but as it would be a random other one, I would prefer to have some overview if it does exist somewhere?
Edited by Leonoel on 21-05-2014 10:35
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| Selwink |
Posted on 21-05-2014 10:35
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fkIDfirststage and fkIDlaststage are correct, but I'm not sure about the climate.
For checking a list of variant you could check the stage race mode to find the variant you like.
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| Leonoel |
Posted on 21-05-2014 10:42
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Okay thanks I will try it out. And will just check the climate thing after having changed it, and if not edit it manually.
Other questions:
1. With what "attribute development" do you play your career? Is the standard 0.5 fine or too quick or too slow in the general experience?
2. Is it possible to customize startlists for a GrandTour in my career? Or only possible in editing the season's objectives for all the other team's riders to "Giro" for example? |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 21-05-2014 11:42
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Leonoel wrote:
Okay thanks I will try it out. And will just check the climate thing after having changed it, and if not edit it manually.
Other questions:
1. With what "attribute development" do you play your career? Is the standard 0.5 fine or too quick or too slow in the general experience?
2. Is it possible to customize startlists for a GrandTour in my career? Or only possible in editing the season's objectives for all the other team's riders to "Giro" for example?
The common believe for attribute development is that 0.2 or 0.3 are the most realistic. 0.5 is rather fast.
But that's up to you, of course! |
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| Leonoel |
Posted on 21-05-2014 12:04
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1. Okay, and I can still change it during the career or do I have to start a new one?
2. And I got it right that rider happiness doesn't have any (or any great) influence, so I could ignore Contador complaining too few races and do the Tour-Vuelta double with him? (and only racing Andalucia, Tirreno, Catalunya and Dauphiné before) |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 21-05-2014 12:33
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You can change the development of attributes at any time, so that's not a problem.
Happiness doesn't seem to have a big influence. Maybe only when you want to extend his contract  |
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| Leonoel |
Posted on 22-05-2014 10:15
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Ok so two last questions:
1. If most of my riders have 65-85 race days, is it fine or too much?
I tried to adjust them according to their IRL number of race days in the last years, but don't know if in the game everything past 60 race days is still a problem?
2. Are training camps still the unfair way of cheating against AI or even needed in PCM 13?
Is their effect only on fitness or also on fatigue.
Thought about only using some of the stage reconnaissance training camps (has only an effect on their daily form on that stage?). |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 22-05-2014 10:20
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1. 65 - 85 race days is just fine, you can even go up higher if you want to. Not a problem.
2. It's considered cheating by some, but that's up to you. AI doesn't use them.
Recon only has an effect on daily form of those stages, so it's less "cheating". |
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| frnp |
Posted on 22-05-2014 12:31
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Nem career Lampre on extreme... and oh boy it's really extreme.
Got a win on a stage in Mallorca with Costa (3rd overall), and Ulissi won GP Etruschi attacking on the final descend.
Minor results on TDU with Cunego and Modolo (top20), and Haut Var with Cunego 4th.
I believe that to play on extreme riders must have top form, and on every stage we must pay every attention, as sometimes, even with the maintain position at 85 the rider drops back...
But is really enjoyable (for now) winning much less, and be happy with a 4th place or a stage win
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| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 22-05-2014 20:33
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Strange Milan-Sanremo with Lotto. Gilbert won, and Roelandts got 7th, leading home the peloton.
However the results were weird. Every rider got an individual time, not given the same time as the leader of their group. Anyone seen this before? Results file now won't open, so an image is attatched below.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 22-05-2014 20:38
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I've seen that before and IIRC, it's something related to the stage file. |
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| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 22-05-2014 20:42
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Miguel98 wrote:
I've seen that before and IIRC, it's something related to the stage file.
That sounds most likely, 1 second gaps set maybe? I've never seen it before. |
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| Smoku |
Posted on 22-05-2014 20:53
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Leonoel wrote:
Ok so two last questions:
1. If most of my riders have 65-85 race days, is it fine or too much?
I tried to adjust them according to their IRL number of race days in the last years, but don't know if in the game everything past 60 race days is still a problem?
2. Are training camps still the unfair way of cheating against AI or even needed in PCM 13?
Is their effect only on fitness or also on fatigue.
Thought about only using some of the stage reconnaissance training camps (has only an effect on their daily form on that stage?).
1. Popular attitude is to protect leaders with 60-70 racedays and use domestiques toi 80-90 days. And it's rubbish. Effective attitude is 80-90 days for leaders (so they would win as much as possible) and 60-70 days for domestiques (so they would always ride on level 1-2 fitness and actually be useful and hold on whenever they start).
2. Training camps lower the difficulty level by one (regardless the exact effect), so it depends on your play style. Using camps to lower extreme to hard is not that bad, if you can't handle something, while using them to go from hard to normal may be seen as lame. In the end it's always better to add a difficulty by riding worse team on hard, than play a good team on extreme and use camps. No one here will call you a n00b - but in the end that's where camps get you at.
3. Don't be affraid of difficulty. You will get the feeling of the game and PCM13 is easier than previous editions.
Edited by Smoku on 22-05-2014 20:59
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| rogvi97 |
Posted on 22-05-2014 21:46
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I set everyone on about 80-90 racedays, and I ended at number one in CQ individual and team and UCI individual and team... But it's also important to choose the right riders for the right races...
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