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| ruben |
Posted on 17-10-2011 14:24
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But nowhere comparable to anyone else who came out of the relative nothing.
Even Isidro Nozal when he became 2nd in the Vuelta wasn't coming THAT much out of nothing like Froome. |
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| Dymo |
Posted on 17-10-2011 22:07
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To my opinion the season says only 1 thing to me. That the riders are closer together. This is according to me a result of the progress in proffessionalism. Teams will better care for that their riders peak and have rest on good moments. Also to not let them ride to many days. Like we have seen with Contador. Winning the Giro and wasn't good enough for the tour. This is just because it isn't possible anymore because teams and riders are more focusing on goals. Look at our Tour winner. Didn't do much more than preparing for the Tour. That is what Armstrong did and that make him in a strong position.
So the improved professionalism at teams can be a big factor to the results. So Cobo and Froome maybe could have an ultimate preparation for the Vuelta. And Zaugg was just the fittest of the peleton at the GTL. So he win and well deserved i think.
I don't say the sport is totally clean but they are on a good way. Stimulate the teams then and don't try to break the moral of teams and riders with your suspicions. Support them and we will have one day a clean, unpredictable and professional sport. And lets celebrate the nice outcome of the GTL because i really enjoyed it. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 18-10-2011 07:07
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Dymo wrote:
I don't say the sport is totally clean but they are on a good way. Stimulate the teams then and don't try to break the moral of teams and riders with your suspicions. Support them and we will have one day a clean, unpredictable and professional sport. And lets celebrate the nice outcome of the GTL because i really enjoyed it. A bit like cycling in the mid 90's. Unpredictable, with no one worrying or talking about dope (well, little did).
Too bad they started doping in 1998, good thing they were caught soonish though. |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 20-10-2011 14:22
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Tour of Hainan, Stage 1: Sanya - Wuzhishan (163.5 km)
| 1 | Justin Jules | FRA | La Pomme Marseille | 4h12'46" | | 2 | Valentin Iglinskiy | KAZ | Astana | | | 3 | Adam Phelan | AUS | Drapac Cycling | | | 4 | Kamil Zielinski | POL | CCC Polsat - Polkowice | | | 5 | Kazuhiro Mori | JPN | Aisan Racing Team | | | 6 | Adiq Othman | MAS | Drapac Cycling | | | 7 | Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg | RSA | MTN - Qhubeka | | | 8 | Christian Poos | LUX | Team Differdange - Magic-sportfood.de | | | 9 | Wang Meiyin | CHN | CHINA | | | 10 | David Gutierrez | ESP | Geox - TMC | |
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| ruben |
Posted on 20-10-2011 22:12
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Aquarius wrote:
Dymo wrote:
I don't say the sport is totally clean but they are on a good way. Stimulate the teams then and don't try to break the moral of teams and riders with your suspicions. Support them and we will have one day a clean, unpredictable and professional sport. And lets celebrate the nice outcome of the GTL because i really enjoyed it. A bit like cycling in the mid 90's. Unpredictable, with no one worrying or talking about dope (well, little did).
Too bad they started doping in 1998, good thing they were caught soonish though. Are you kidding me?
They started doping in 1998?
You of all people should know the gigantic unreal increase in watts beginning 90'ties. Van Hooydonck was one of the first victims of that, where he was winning RVV before, he now couldn't even follow the 20 best, mainly Italians.
And in the Tour we saw a gigantic jump in mountain performances from 390 to 430W and beyond.
And thing of Gewiss and other doping system teams where a lot of average riders suddenly became superman |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 20-10-2011 22:13
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ruben wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Dymo wrote:
I don't say the sport is totally clean but they are on a good way. Stimulate the teams then and don't try to break the moral of teams and riders with your suspicions. Support them and we will have one day a clean, unpredictable and professional sport. And lets celebrate the nice outcome of the GTL because i really enjoyed it. A bit like cycling in the mid 90's. Unpredictable, with no one worrying or talking about dope (well, little did).
Too bad they started doping in 1998, good thing they were caught soonish though. Are you kidding me?
They started doping in 1998?
You of all people should know the gigantic unreal increase in watts beginning 90'ties. Van Hooydonck was one of the first victims of that, where he was winning RVV before, he now couldn't even follow the 20 best, mainly Italians.
And in the Tour we saw a gigantic jump in mountain performances from 390 to 430W and beyond.
And thing of Gewiss and other doping system teams where a lot of average riders suddenly became superman
He's joking Ruben
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
Please assume I am joking unless otherwise stated |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 20-10-2011 22:19
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You really suck at catching other people's jokes, Ruben  |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-10-2011 06:29
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Wait, would that mean people already doped during the Gewiss' era ? |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 21-10-2011 12:51
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Tour of Hainan, Stage 2: Wuzhishan - Xinglong (145.1 km)
| 1 | Yasuharu Nakajima | JPN | Aisan Racing Team | 3h43'39" | | 2 | Kenny van Hummel | NED | Skil - Shimano | 59" | | 3 | Justin Jules | FRA | La Pomme Marseille | 59" | | 4 | Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg | RSA | MTN - Qhubeka | 59" | | 5 | Daniele Colli | ITA | Geox - TMC | 59" | | 6 | Stuart Shaw | AUS | Drapac Cycling | 59" | | 7 | Peter Erdin | SUI | Atlas Personal | 59" | | 8 | Valentin Iglsinkiy | KAZ | Astana | 59" | | 9 | Xavier Florencio | ESP | Geox - TMC | 59" | | 10 | Gediminas Kaupas | LTU | Team Differdange - Magic-sportfood.de | 59" |
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| dienblad |
Posted on 21-10-2011 12:57
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Aquarius wrote:
Wait, would that mean people already doped during the Gewiss' era ?
I heard a rumour that doping was involved in the sport for some decades. That even the tragic death of Tommy Simpson had something to do with it.
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| olabj |
Posted on 21-10-2011 13:13
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dienblad wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Wait, would that mean people already doped during the Gewiss' era ?
I heard a rumour that doping was involved in the sport for some decades. That even the tragic death of Tommy Simpson had something to do with it.
Nah, I don't think that's true. It's just a rumour. Trust me I know this shit
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| Wilier |
Posted on 22-10-2011 19:09
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Tour of Hainan, Stage 3: Xinglong - Wenchang (161 km)
| 1 | Tom Veelers | NED | Skil - Shimano | 3h53'30" | | 2 | Kenny van Hummel | NED | Skil - Shimano | | | 3 | Harrif Salleh | MAS | Terengganu Cycling Team | | | 4 | Valentin Iglinskiy | KAZ | Astana | | | 5 | Anuar Manan | MAS | Terengganu Cycling Team | | | 6 | Mart Ojavee | EST | Champion System | | | 7 | Martijn Verschoor | NED | Team Type 1 - Sanofi | | | 8 | Daniele Colli | ITA | Geox - TMC | | | 9 | Rico Dean Rogers | NZL | Giant - Kenda Cycling Team | | | 10 | Kazuhiro Mori | JPN | Aisan Racing Team | |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 23-10-2011 09:25
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Nathan Haas won the Japan Cup, showing good form in the season end. |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 23-10-2011 16:18
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Tour of Hainan, Stage 4: Wenchang - Haikou (163.8 km)
| 1 | Deon Locke | AUS | Champion System | 3h50'07" | | 2 | Haijun Ma | CHN | China | 05" | | 3 | Kam-Po Wong | HKG | Hong Kong | 10" | | 4 | Tom Veelers | NED | Skil - Shimano | 15" | | 5 | Justin Jules | FRA | La Pomme Marseille | 15" | | 6 | Kenny van Hummel | NED | Skil - Shimano | 15" | | 7 | Valentin Iglinskiy | KAZ | Astana | 15" | | 8 | Daniele Colli | ITA | Geox - TMC | 15" | | 9 | Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg | RSA | MTN - Qhubeka | 15" | | 10 | Martijn Verschoor | NED | Team Type 1 - Sanofi | 15" |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 24-10-2011 13:59
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Tour of Hainan, Stage 5
| 1 | Anuar Manan | MAS | Terengganu Cycling Team | 3h21'25" | | 2 | Harrif Salleh | MAS | Terengganu Cycling Team | | | 3 | Rico Dean Rogers | NZL | Giant Kenda Cycling Team | | | 4 | Daniele Colli | ITA | Geox - TMC | | | 5 | Kenny van Hummel | NED | Skil - Shimano | | | 6 | Tom Veelers | NED | Skil - Shimano | | | 7 | Peter Erdin | SUI | Atlas Personal | | | 8 | Adiq Othman | MAS | Drapac Cycling | | | 9 | Sylwester Janiszewski | POL | CCC Polsat - Polkowice | | | 10 | Marko Kump | SLO | Geox - TMC | |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 25-10-2011 15:17
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Tour of Hainan, Stage 6: Chengmai - Danzhou (201.8 km)
| 1 | Kenny van Hummel | NED | Skil - Shimano | 3h54'22" | | 2 | Harrif Salleh | MAS | Terengganu Cycling Team | | | 3 | Peter Erdin | SUI | Atlas Personal | | | 4 | Rico Rogers | NZL | Giant Kenda Cycling Team | | | 5 | Martijn Verschoor | NED | Team Type 1 - Sanofi | | | 6 | Marko Kump | SLO | Geox - TMC | | | 7 | Kazuhiro Mori | JPN | Aisan Racing Team | | | 8 | Zhi An Chen | CHN | China 361° Cycling Team | | | 9 | Stuart Shaw | AUS | Drapac Cycling | | | 10 | Christian Poos | LUX | Team Differdange - Magic-sportfood.de | |
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| dienblad |
Posted on 25-10-2011 15:44
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Wilier wrote:
Tour of Hainan, Stage 6: Chengmai - Danzhou (201.8 km)
| 1 | Kenny van Hummel | NED | Skil - Shimano | 3h54'22" | | 2 | Harrif Salleh | MAS | Terengganu Cycling Team | | | 3 | Peter Erdin | SUI | Atlas Personal | | | 4 | Rico Rogers | NZL | Giant Kenda Cycling Team | | | 5 | Martijn Verschoor | NED | Team Type 1 - Sanofi | | | 6 | Marko Kump | SLO | Geox - TMC | | | 7 | Kazuhiro Mori | JPN | Aisan Racing Team | | | 8 | Zhi An Chen | CHN | China 361° Cycling Team | | | 9 | Stuart Shaw | AUS | Drapac Cycling | | | 10 | Christian Poos | LUX | Team Differdange - Magic-sportfood.de | |
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Posted on 25-10-2011 16:32
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The Japan Cup was raced on Sunday but I hadn't seen any mention of the results:
| 1. | | | | HAAS Nathan | | GEN | | 4h08'35" | | | | | 2. | | | | NISHITANI Taiji | | AIS | | | | | | | 3. | | | | SANO Junya | | DAN | | | | | | | 4. | | | | CUNEGO Damiano | | LAM | | | | | | | 5. | | | | HATANAKA Yusuke | | SMN | | | | | | | 6. | | | | MORI Manuele | | LAM | | 02" | | | | | 7. | | | | CARUSO Damiano | | LIQ | | 02" | | | | | 8. | | | | SHIMIZU Miyataka | | BGT | | 04" | | | | | 9. | | | | SALERNO Cristiano | | LIQ | | 07" | | | | | 10. | | | | BASSO Ivan | | LIQ | | 09" | | | |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 26-10-2011 14:24
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Tour of Hainan, Stage 7: Danzhou - Dongfang (196 km)
| 1 | Kenny van Hummel | NED | Skil - Shimano | 4h36'52" | | 2 | Chan Jae Jang | KOR | Terengganu Cycling Team | | | 3 | Daniele Colli | ITA | Geox - TMC | | | 4 | Justin Jules | FRA | La Pomme Marseille | | | 5 | Valentin Iglinskiy | KAZ | Astana | | | 6 | Kazuhiro Mori | JPN | Aisan Racing Team | | | 7 | Anuar Manan | MAS | Terengganu Cycling Team | | | 8 | Kamil Zielinski | POL | CCC Polsat - Polkowice | | | 9 | Harrif Salleh | MAS | Terengganu Cycling Team | | | 10 | Takeaki Ayabe | JPN | Aisan Racing Team | |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 27-10-2011 15:53
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Tour of Hainan, Stage 8: Dongfang - Sanya (184.7 km)
| 1 | Valentin Iglinskiy | KAZ | Astana | 4h27'45" | | 2 | Daniele Colli | ITA | Geox - TMC | | | 3 | Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg | RSA | MTN - Qhubeka | | | 4 | Adam Phelan | AUS | Drapac Cycling | | | 5 | Sylwester Janiszewski | POL | CCC Polsat - Polkowice | | | 6 | Adiq Othman | MAS | Drapac Cycling | | | 7 | Wang Meiyin | CHN | CHINA | | | 8 | Kamil Zielinski | POL | CCC Polsat - Polkowice | | | 9 | Chan Jae Jang | KOR | Terengganu Cycling Team | | | 10 | Stefan Ganser | GER | Team Eddy Merckx - Indeland | |
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