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| Valverde17 |
Posted on 30-07-2007 10:46
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still i don't understand what would be so serious about that....maybe only because the climb is too difficult and riders may be forced to dope to finish it ...that's why heras won
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 30-07-2007 13:10
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A German professor, Werner Franke, has said that there's lots of indications that Contador has used doping. He says that Contador was on the list which Guardia Civil got at first (meaning he was on the same list as Basso and Ullrich), and they also have a document, showing exactly what Contador used when. In that document, you can for example see that Contador has used insulin, HMG Lepori (testosterone product) and TGN (astma product).
He also says that he feels someone is "protecting" the Spanish riders. There's the exact same evidence against Valverde. |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 30-07-2007 13:14
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Does this mean Evans won!!!!!!!
or is nothing is official yet and nothing has happened to him?
and nothing probably will happen anyway
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 30-07-2007 13:16
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It's just a German professor, so no, nothing official. I don't think anything will happen to him. I mean, only a very, very few amount of the riders have been hit by the Puerto-scandale, although there were many involved. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-07-2007 13:31
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it's a problem of mentality. don't expect anything to happen in any southern european country. |
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| mrlol |
Posted on 30-07-2007 15:10
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If anything could mean the death of the tour this is it... After Landis, Vino, Moreni and Rasmussen this would be too much... |
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| samtheman |
Posted on 30-07-2007 16:27
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Werner Franke is criticised all the time because he just tells the truth and many people can't live with that. He's an expert in doping matters. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 30-07-2007 17:52
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CrueTrue wrote:
A German professor, Werner Franke, has said that there's lots of indications that Contador has used doping. He says that Contador was on the list which Guardia Civil got at first (meaning he was on the same list as Basso and Ullrich), and they also have a document, showing exactly what Contador used when. In that document, you can for example see that Contador has used insulin, HMG Lepori (testosterone product) and TGN (astma product).
He also says that he feels someone is "protecting" the Spanish riders. There's the exact same evidence against Valverde.
And in addition to that:
A Danish reporter just said in an interview that whenever they turned off the camera and dictaphone, almost all sports directors said that they didn't believe Contador managed to do this without doping. |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 30-07-2007 18:20
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yes but to be fair that is coming from journalists
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-07-2007 18:23
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and to be fair, is there any chance he's wrong about Contador?
very little, I'd say. |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 30-07-2007 18:29
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yes i am very suspicious of him, but more so of journalists, so i'm not going to say anything until something is officially said, as i do not trust journalists as far as i can throw them
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 30-07-2007 18:31
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What about a German doping professor? Do you trust such a guy? |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 30-07-2007 18:34
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I cannot trust anyone until I meet them - how can you trust someone otherwise
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-07-2007 18:35
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Crommy wrote:
I cannot trust anyone until I meet them - how can you trust someone otherwise
so you don't trust anyone here on the site? |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 30-07-2007 18:38
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Not entirely, no.
I would love to trust anybody 100%, but this world is just too imperfect - plus I read the Daily Mail which doesn't help
Seriously though, the world would be such a better place if everyone could just trust each over, but to coordinate 6 billion in such an effort is not impossible, but very close
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 30-07-2007 18:40
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CrueTrue wrote:
What about a German doping professor? Do you trust such a guy?
he is a proffesor, but he is German
but i do trust him slightly as he is a proffessor, yes
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-07-2007 18:40
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Crommy wrote:
Not entirely, no.
I would love to trust anybody 100%, but this world is just too imperfect - plus I read the Daily Mail which doesn't help
Seriously though, the world would be such a better place if everyone could just trust each over, but to coordinate 6 billion in such an effort is not impossible, but very close
this world is overpopulated, sadly.
and I was kidding. to be honest, there's only one person I trust fully in this world. and it's not even my girlfriend. so I can see your point
Valverde17 wrote:
still i don't understand what would be so serious about that....maybe only because the climb is too difficult and riders may be forced to dope to finish it ...that's why heras won
last time
last time over the Anglirú it rained. a bunch of cars couldn't go up. so many cyclists got stuck. it was a mess. not to mention it was insanely difficult for the riders.
that's why it's never coming back. want to see it again? use the Custom Stage Race editor to put together the 2008,2009, etc. Vuelta that Cyanide put in the game for career mode, as I always do 
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| Crommy |
Posted on 30-07-2007 18:41
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And the reason you quoted me was...?
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-07-2007 18:42
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Crommy wrote:
And the reason you quoted me was...?
I accidentally hit "post reply" before answering you . check again now
Edited by issoisso on 30-07-2007 18:42
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| Crommy |
Posted on 30-07-2007 18:43
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issoisso wrote:
and I was kidding. to be honest, there's only one person I trust fully in this world. and it's not even my girlfriend. so I can see your point
I hope she's not reading this 
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