Harry Redknapp - "I've never even heard of Braga"
- "It'll be a good game for the players' morale, they need some good training and free goal scoring"
And a few others that I won't bother to mention
Yesterday Night
Braga 3-0 Portsmouth, Jesus outclasses Redknapp tactically to such a degree that it was actually quite literally SAD.
David James refuses to shake hands with Braga players or to exchange jerseys or standards.
Jorge Jesus:
-"Same old, same old with these english managers. Full of talk about how they're so superior, but they know nothing of european football, they're always very easy and predictable. There's a reason there are so many foreigners in the english league: they don't know much about the game. We worked all week knowing the opponent would play a certain way. And they did. They always do. They're english..."
I can't stand Jesus, but after Redknapp's asshole routine, he fully deserved it.
stuartmcstuart wrote:
David Beckham is joining AC Milan on loan in January for a few months
Yeah, but only because it is the MLS offseason
Yes, but it's still news. I actually find it rather amusing that he does these things (last year training at arsenal) to keep himself in the England set up. If he cared that much about his international career, he would never have gone to MLS. Not because it's a ridiculous league, but adding further to what Isso and yourself have talked about, people here think that its not really a good standard. In actual fact, MLS teams would give a Championship side a run for their money, if not a few premiership teams as well.
I mean that seriously. Do you know why England have only won one world cup? Because they're up their own asses, thinking that they're the inventors and therefore master of the game, despite a relatively limited tactical nous by most England teams/players/managers.
Well I'm more of a pessimist when it comes to Liverpool, so I predict 2-0 to Chelsea. I think it will probably be between Liverpool and Arsenal for 3rd place this season, with Chelsea and Man Utd going for the title. We'll see though...
lagetcher wrote:
Well I'm more of a pessimist when it comes to Liverpool, so I predict 2-0 to Chelsea. I think it will probably be between Liverpool and Arsenal for 3rd place this season, with Chelsea and Man Utd going for the title. We'll see though...
i agree sorry larrson but chelsea is better.
if liverpool can't make the difference against belgian noobclub (insulting my own nation ) how do except them to beat chelsea
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stuartmcstuart wrote:
In actual fact, MLS teams would give a Championship side a run for their money, if not a few premiership teams as well.
Exactly, I really think UEFA should allow something like two teams into the Champions League, and four into the UEFA Cup from outside Europe. Especially because I think the Houston Dynamo could go deep into the Champions League if they were allowed in.
My view on the MLS is that if you put a good MLS team (like the Dynamo) into say, the Premiership, they would end up in the 13-17 area. However, on a game by game basis, the Dynamo would give any team in any European league a run for their money.
stuartmcstuart wrote:
In actual fact, MLS teams would give a Championship side a run for their money, if not a few premiership teams as well.
Exactly, I really think UEFA should allow something like two teams into the Champions League, and four into the UEFA Cup from outside Europe. Especially because I think the Houston Dynamo could go deep into the Champions League if they were allowed in.
My view on the MLS is that if you put a good MLS team (like the Dynamo) into say, the Premiership, they would end up in the 13-17 area. However, on a game by game basis, the Dynamo would give any team in any European league a run for their money.
Now I don't know much about the level in MLS, but there is teams, that I would like in before, like Boca, River Plate and some of the Brazil teams, are very strong. And is the MLS teams in Copa Libatarodres, or is it only the South American teams?
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stuartmcstuart wrote:
In actual fact, MLS teams would give a Championship side a run for their money, if not a few premiership teams as well.
Exactly, I really think UEFA should allow something like two teams into the Champions League, and four into the UEFA Cup from outside Europe. Especially because I think the Houston Dynamo could go deep into the Champions League if they were allowed in.
My view on the MLS is that if you put a good MLS team (like the Dynamo) into say, the Premiership, they would end up in the 13-17 area. However, on a game by game basis, the Dynamo would give any team in any European league a run for their money.
Now I don't know much about the level in MLS, but there is teams, that I would like in before, like Boca, River Plate and some of the Brazil teams, are very strong. And is the MLS teams in Copa Libatarodres, or is it only the South American teams?
It's just the South American teams, I think.
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I stopped the video after the "We had a perfectly good goal disallowed." bit. If a player touches the goalkeeper, while in the air, in the box, it's a foul. The rule applies to every country in the world but in the UK I've seen a ton of goals like this being allowed. One example, Dado Prso (Rangers) vs FC Porto a couple of years ago. That would have been a foul in every other place in the world but not in the UK. The British refs undermine the rule in the national leagues and that seems to influence the other referees that go to the UK for the European competitions. And then you have to put up with crap like this.
And I'm not even going to talk about the "dives". I saw the first half of the match and I didn't see any dives, but that's my opinion. We all know that Latin Countries have a reputation for being divers, and that, on the other hand, British teams have a reputation for chopping down everything that moves, so it's normal to see them react like that and say that the portuguese players are divers and for the portuguese players to say they were too aggressive.
the gold cup is for national teams. concacaf just set up a concacaf champions league. dynamo going deep into the champions league? i have no idea where that is coming from ... they would have to have the tournament of a lifetime. comparing mls teams to championship is probably the right level ... this coming from a big mls supporter
p3druh wrote:
I stopped the video after the "We had a perfectly good goal disallowed." bit. If a player touches the goalkeeper, while in the air, in the box, it's a foul. The rule applies to every country in the world but in the UK I've seen a ton of goals like this being allowed. One example, Dado Prso (Rangers) vs FC Porto a couple of years ago. That would have been a foul in every other place in the world but not in the UK. The British refs undermine the rule in the national leagues and that seems to influence the other referees that go to the UK for the European competitions. And then you have to put up with crap like this.
And I'm not even going to talk about the "dives". I saw the first half of the match and I didn't see any dives, but that's my opinion. We all know that Latin Countries have a reputation for being divers, and that, on the other hand, British teams have a reputation for chopping down everything that moves, so it's normal to see them react like that and say that the portuguese players are divers and for the portuguese players to say they were too aggressive.
I fully agree. There's really absolutely nothing else I can say. You've just perfectly captured my feelings and the feelings of all my friends on english football.
But there's one thing that you forgot, if we're into bashing english football:
It's not really football, it's all about athletics. And it results in players only being good if they're fast, or strong, or both.
It results in players like Ronaldo, Henry, Cesc, etc, only being good in the english league, because they're used to playing that way. They all suck for their national teams. Because all they do is run and pump the ball.
You know what the annoying part is? Having to put up with "but so many english teams play short passing, like teams X, Y and Z" when in reality, those are the teams that, instead of pumping the ball immediatelly, just stroke the ball from side to side before - you guessed it - pumping it in.
Like the english national team for example.
But that's just something I wanted to get off my chest
Bottom line: the rules must be the same in england. The players regularly complain about the exaggerated phisicality of the league, but the english media dismiss them as "whiners".
Those players speak out with real concern for the direction of the sport in england, but they get nothing but crap for their trouble.
schleck93 wrote:
Yeah it is I just checked it, it's named CONCACAF Gold Cup in North America.
The Gold Cup is for national teams, like the Euro. The Libertadores is for club teams like the Champions' League Edited by issoisso on 26-10-2008 05:58
schleck93 wrote:
Yeah it is I just checked it, it's named CONCACAF Gold Cup in North America.
The Gold Cup is for national teams, like the Euro. The Libertadores is for club teams like the Champions' League
My bad, never trust dansih wikipedia sites, but Libertadores is only for southamerican teams. The norht american teams compete in CONCACAF Chmapions League, or as it was before this year CONCACAF Champions cup, and it's mostly Mexican and Costa Rican teams winning.
BenBarnes wrote:
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I'd have to disagree. Not completely, but a little bit.
English football is more physical, but this
British teams have a reputation for chopping down everything that moves
is a very dramatic overstatement. English crowds prefer a stronger tougher tackle, and referees do pick up on it if it has/could harm the other player. But they don't just hack people down then the referee plays on.
Foreign players in different countries do have a tendency to go down easier than English players do, and try and win free kicks. Yes, that's an overstatement, I know, but they do this because they know they will get free kicks only if they play it theatrically, and won't if they carry on.
Anyway, my main point: football is an entertainment industry. The way the game is played should reflect what the fans want, and the English want a more physical game. I know that in Europe it gets a bit more complicated as the English game is different to the mainland Europe game, but I feel that we can have a physical game because we ant a physical game.
I'll agree, about the bit about us playing football where athletics is all that matters is mostly true. Arsenal are the one exception, but we do tend to not play 'beautiful' football.
Anyway, rant over, time for everyone else to rip me to shreds
