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| mrlol |
Posted on 19-05-2009 17:36
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yea, well, cyclingnews seems to have some rather weird things on their giro website quite regularly...
like the translation(in the live ticker) of Di Luca's speech in Milano... |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 19-05-2009 17:36
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Rinhoth wrote:
Ok, This might be slightly of topic, but it is concerning the giro....
On Cyclingnews' description of stage 13 on friday, they write that Lampre's Danilo Napolitano is a favourite. How hard is it to know that he rides for Katusha when you write for a cycling website?!?
https://cyclingnew...s/giro0913
How hard is it to know that he's not riding, and to update the stage previews?
It's a question I ask every time I vist cyclingnews recently.
Edited by rjc_43 on 19-05-2009 17:37
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| Rinhoth |
Posted on 19-05-2009 17:37
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Then it's even worse... I did not know that, but at least i know more that cyclingnews, and definetely now! 
If children have the ability to ignore all odds and percentages, then maybe we can all learn from them. When you think about it, what other choice is there but to hope? We have two options, medically and emotionally: give up, or Fight Like Hell.
-Lance Armstrong
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| Ennyzor |
Posted on 19-05-2009 17:47
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The danish eurosport commentators made the same mistake about Napolitano on one of the first stages of the Giro if im not mistaken. |
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| Rinhoth |
Posted on 19-05-2009 17:52
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Cyclingnews also has Rebellin as one of the favourites for stage 20, because of the steep hill at the finish.... Wonder if he'll win?
If children have the ability to ignore all odds and percentages, then maybe we can all learn from them. When you think about it, what other choice is there but to hope? We have two options, medically and emotionally: give up, or Fight Like Hell.
-Lance Armstrong
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 19-05-2009 18:05
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Ruben wrote:
By the way, it's still funny that Alex thought Soler wouldn't amount to anything 
yeah he is there, but still 21st behind Ten Dam, Cunego, Kessiakoff or Popovych(who seems reborn at Astana, not like at Silence).
Also we should see Di Luca in a stage that ends in a hard high mountain. I think that Menchov, Sastre and Basso will beat him there.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 19-05-2009 18:16
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reborn is putting a positive spin on it maybe
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-05-2009 18:23
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alexkr00 wrote:
Ruben wrote:
By the way, it's still funny that Alex thought Soler wouldn't amount to anything
yeah he is there, but still 21st behind Ten Dam, Cunego, Kessiakoff or Popovych(who seems reborn at Astana, not like at Silence).
Also we should see Di Luca in a stage that ends in a hard high mountain. I think that Menchov, Sastre and Basso will beat him there. Because Soler lost 3 minutes in flat stages, yes. But that doesn't make a strong point in your case. More like a complete disaster for you. |
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| viking90 |
Posted on 19-05-2009 18:31
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you say he lost 3 mins on the flat stages, now he is 6 mins after, also 3 mins he lost where ? in the mountains stage ? |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 19-05-2009 18:33
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flat stages are also part of the game
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-05-2009 18:44
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viking90 wrote:
you say he lost 3 mins on the flat stages, now he is 6 mins after, also 3 mins he lost where ? in the mountains stage ? In the downhill of the 2 'in bewteen' stages + TTT
My point is/was, he is still one of the best climbers here at the Giro. Alex denied that.
So he can whine about time loss in flat stages and the general classification all he want, it doesn't change something about him being completely wrong about Soler.
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| viking90 |
Posted on 19-05-2009 18:49
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ahhhha stupid me. yeah you right he´s one of the if not top 5 so atleast top 10 climbers in this years giro. I thought you talked about his "overall"(GC riders) there he´s obviously not even top 20 and that´s before the ITT. |
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 19-05-2009 18:55
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viking90 wrote:
ahhhha stupid me. yeah you right he´s one of the if not top 5 so atleast top 10 climbers in this years giro. I thought you talked about his "overall"(GC riders) there he´s obviously not even top 20 and that´s before the ITT.
Not even top 20? He is already 21st and only one or two stages suited him until now and having lost a lot of time in flat stages (yes, he suck in flat stages, but no so much to consider it normal to lose 3 minutes there).
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| viking90 |
Posted on 19-05-2009 19:00
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Ildabaoth wrote:
viking90 wrote:
ahhhha stupid me. yeah you right he´s one of the if not top 5 so atleast top 10 climbers in this years giro. I thought you talked about his "overall"(GC riders) there he´s obviously not even top 20 and that´s before the ITT.
Not even top 20? He is already 21st and only one or two stages suited him until now and having lost a lot of time in flat stages (yes, he suck in flat stages, but no so much to consider it normal to lose 3 minutes there).
He is 21 now after 10 stages, Good overall riders t.ex. Basso, leipheimer, di luca and they who are top 10. they didn´t lose time in the flat stages.
A good GC rider is overall and is placed good in the flat and difficult stages so they do not lose time. BUT Soler lost time in the flat stages and in my opinion his not that good (as a GC rider) if he lose time against the good GC riders in flat stages and TT. |
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 19-05-2009 19:09
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viking90 wrote:
Ildabaoth wrote:
viking90 wrote:
ahhhha stupid me. yeah you right he´s one of the if not top 5 so atleast top 10 climbers in this years giro. I thought you talked about his "overall"(GC riders) there he´s obviously not even top 20 and that´s before the ITT.
Not even top 20? He is already 21st and only one or two stages suited him until now and having lost a lot of time in flat stages (yes, he suck in flat stages, but no so much to consider it normal to lose 3 minutes there).
He is 21 now after 10 stages, Good overall riders t.ex. Basso, leipheimer, di luca and they who are top 10. they didn´t lose time in the flat stages.
A good GC rider is overall and is placed good in the flat and difficult stages so they do not lose time. BUT Soler lost time in the flat stages and in my opinion his not that good (as a GC rider) if he lose time against the good GC riders in flat stages and TT.
After 9 stages he was 28th, so, using your same arguments, you could say he was barely a top 30 GC contender yesterday. I didn't say he was a top 5 or something like that, but under normal conditions (i.e. no this chaotic giro without real mountains) he could easily be a top 10, and that, to me, is already a good GC achievement.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 19-05-2009 19:24
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well Soler is pure climber and he will climb..even totaly out of shape Rasmussen was sometimes visible in mountain stages in Giro.
Hugh flop and most overrated guy in the pack is ..
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| Phanekim |
Posted on 19-05-2009 19:25
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Anyone think Di Luca is burning his mathces out too early?
Edited by Phanekim on 19-05-2009 19:29
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 19-05-2009 19:27
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Phanekim wrote:
Anyone think Di Luca is burning his legs out too early?
Not me. I think he is in an awkward position. He is burning himself and his team, but, on the other hand, he needs every second he can get to distance himself from Leipheimer or Menchov who are real threats for the TT.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 19-05-2009 19:32
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Indeed this is a plan..when he started a tour has possible podium candidate..(and that was optimistic plan)..now he is a win candidate. I have not seen him cracking like Valverde, Cunego etc. Even if few climbers are better..he will keep going with own tempo..and this is good enough. Doper or not..but hugh fighter...this will be hard to get this guy away from pink.
Even with that long TT |
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| jacknic |
Posted on 19-05-2009 19:53
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Guido Mukk wrote:
well Soler is pure climber and he will climb..even totaly out of shape Rasmussen was sometimes visible in mountain stages in Giro.
Hugh flop and most overrated guy in the pack is ..
How is Augustyn overrated? He hasn't done anything other than being ace in PCM 2007... |
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