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| kumazan |
Posted on 16-09-2010 00:15
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Mosquera isn't superman in such steep climbs either. Bola del Mundo is a climb which favors a more explosive rider, such as Joaquim.
Nibali was stronger than Mosquera in Xorret de CatÃ, and this climb is basically as if you started to climb the Xorret right after the top of Navacerrada. Navacerrada is a very easy climb, so if Nibali gets to the top of Navacerrada with enough strenght left in his legs, he can do it.
I still have the feeling that Mosquera's gonna win, but I think that Nibali hasn't it that hard. |
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| ricotero_uy |
Posted on 16-09-2010 04:31
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If Euskaltel or Mouncou... eeh.. Cofidis are in the breakaway.. probably Liquigas wont work to catch them. For Nibali would be better that the bonus time don't belong to the GC contenders.
Nibali in red and Nieve will repeat his victory! |
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| facmanpob |
Posted on 16-09-2010 08:18
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Well, I'm torn.....
I want Nibali to win because that's who I bet on in the betting section, but I'd actually like to see Mosquera win!
As others have said, I think the time bonuses may be crucial! |
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| ruben |
Posted on 16-09-2010 11:25
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kumazan wrote:
Mosquera isn't superman in such steep climbs either. Bola del Mundo is a climb which favors a more explosive rider, such as Joaquim.
Nibali was stronger than Mosquera in Xorret de CatÃ, and this climb is basically as if you started to climb the Xorret right after the top of Navacerrada. Navacerrada is a very easy climb, so if Nibali gets to the top of Navacerrada with enough strenght left in his legs, he can do it.
I still have the feeling that Mosquera's gonna win, but I think that Nibali hasn't it that hard.
Actually Navacerrada is a bit like Andorra. So if they can wear out Nibali on that part already (like on Andorra), he is going to totally collapse when they reach the steeper ramps
There is a big difference between a (short) steep climb right from the foot like Xorret de Cati, where indeed, you need to be explosive. And a steep part after already climbing for 19km
You cannot compare that. |
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| lagetcher |
Posted on 16-09-2010 11:35
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I'm still annoyed Antón's crash potentially lost me 1,000PCM$...typical
Besides the battle for red, it will be fascinating to see who takes 3rd, because looking at the standings, if Velits cracks, any one of 7 riders could possibly make the podium. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 16-09-2010 11:52
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ruben wrote:
Actually Navacerrada is a bit like Andorra. So if they can wear out Nibali on that part already (like on Andorra), he is going to totally collapse when they reach the steeper ramps
There is a big difference between a (short) steep climb right from the foot like Xorret de Cati, where indeed, you need to be explosive. And a steep part after already climbing for 19km
You cannot compare that.
I'm not comparing, just using references to show that Mosquera isn't exactly super strong in the steeper climbs. If Nibali is cooked (either totally or partially) when they get to the top of Navacerrada, Mosquera will have it in his hands. If Mosquera hasn't been able to put Nibali in problems by then, I don't see Nibali losing enough time, unless he fucks it up by trying to obsessively follow Mosquera's wheel, as he sometimes does (like in Andorra). |
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| ruben |
Posted on 16-09-2010 12:43
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I know that Mosquera is not strong on the steeper climbs (he is not a lightweight like Anton), but, look at leasts years La Pandera and there he actually made the difference on the steeper parts.
I believe only Sammy Sanchez could stay with him in the end.
Valverde, Gesink, Evans and Basso could not.
And I rate Nibali below all four of them when it comes to climbing ability.
Edited by ruben on 16-09-2010 12:44
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 16-09-2010 15:16
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first televised feedzone crash of the vuelta.
hurray!
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 16-09-2010 15:41
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Yay. Action. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 16-09-2010 15:41
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eh? What the heck?
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 16-09-2010 15:54
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Looks like it's going to be a mass sprint finish 
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 16-09-2010 15:58
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i'm actually watching this.
I've realised the season is almost over
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 16-09-2010 15:58
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WC's and Lombardi left of the PT season... Sad but true.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 16-09-2010 16:00
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hillis91 wrote:
WC's and Lombardi left of the PT season... Sad but true.
you forgot Paris-Tours - thats a big race.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 16-09-2010 16:00
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*yawn*
Is it Saturday yet? |
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 16-09-2010 16:01
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doddy13 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
WC's and Lombardi left of the PT season... Sad but true.
you forgot Paris-Tours - thats a big race.
Of course.. But still, not many races left 
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 16-09-2010 16:01
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kumazan wrote:
*yawn*
Is it Saturday yet?
no
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 16-09-2010 16:02
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Mass sprint today and tomorrow. Then it's saturday, and Mosquera will take it home
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 16-09-2010 16:11
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technical finish apparently.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 16-09-2010 16:12
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90 degree left turn with 1.5 km left, then once more at 1.1 km left.
Important to stay in the front
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