Vuelta a España 2009
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Posted on 18-09-2009 23:24
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It is absolutely a subjective thougt, but he lost about 1'30 minutes at Valverde when he punctured, and even maybe 15-30 secounds extra, cause he had to struggle almost alone. Then,he lost some time at Pandora, where he had to be offensive, as a cause of the earlier time loss, and with out those time losses, I think he could had been a competitor of Valverde for tomorrows TT.
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Posted on 18-09-2009 23:30
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I doubt it. Evans won 3, count em 3, seconds in the first TT, which was dead flat and completely in Evans advantage.
The second TT is hilly and shorter. I don't think Evans was ever going to win (neither was Gesink btw). |
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Posted on 18-09-2009 23:38
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Isso told us after Vuelta profiles was anounced..that this time it is taylor made for Valverde..
Only guy he had to afraid Contador..did not start..so.. |
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KurtinSC |
Posted on 19-09-2009 00:59
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After each GT this year, many fans have complained about how boring it was.
Last year was similar as well... after the Giro (which was animated largely by dopers).
Is this what Cycling is with today's equipment and team tactics with a "lesser" doping regime?
For the last two years, it seems the vast majority of attacks (or at least repeated attacks) have come from guys who months later have been caught doping. The "clean" guys... well they just haven't been able to attack... at least not repeatedly like we were used to seeing before.
Is that just the way it is without the higher powered doping regimine?
Or do the riders now just suck in comparison to the guys a few years back? |
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Posted on 19-09-2009 01:17
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KurtinSC wrote:
After each GT this year, many fans have complained about how boring it was.
Last year was similar as well... after the Giro (which was animated largely by dopers).
Is this what Cycling is with today's equipment and team tactics with a "lesser" doping regime?
For the last two years, it seems the vast majority of attacks (or at least repeated attacks) have come from guys who months later have been caught doping. The "clean" guys... well they just haven't been able to attack... at least not repeatedly like we were used to seeing before.
Is that just the way it is without the higher powered doping regimine?
Or do the riders now just suck in comparison to the guys a few years back?
I think people are just picky, you can't have a grand tour and have people atack at the bottom of every climb, riders arn't strong enough.
There are pretty much 2 things that make a GT great, drama and attacks.
Unfortunately attacks mean time gaps and, as such, you can't have both very easily. hence GT's are always dissapointing.
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ruben |
Posted on 19-09-2009 09:34
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Just make the teams smaller...
Max 6 riders per team! |
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ruben |
Posted on 19-09-2009 09:38
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And the final Gesink update:
"I refuse to give up, it is simply not in my system and I will regret giving up later on. Besides, the Vuelta is only 27km more, sunday is an easy ride.
Yes I'll go to the worlds. I've shown here I'm in super shape. I might not be next week, but if I even come remotely close I can do more than other rides from our country. So I'll go" |
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Posted on 19-09-2009 15:29
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Millar currently has the best time, 30 seconds ahead of Kreuziger. He's also now riding for Astana according to cyclingnews |
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Guido Mukk |
Posted on 19-09-2009 15:33
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Millsr was my bet for a day..I realy dont know nothing about he´s current condition.. |
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ruben |
Posted on 19-09-2009 15:34
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Boom dissapointing. Probably too tired to do better? |
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fenian_1234 |
Posted on 19-09-2009 15:36
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Yesterday's stage was a bit wet. Only thing of interest today is whether Basso can hold onto the podium. Very little chance I think.
Without his fall, and the way he rode Amstel earlier this year, I'd have had Gesink down as one of the big favorites for the Worlds this year. |
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Guido Mukk |
Posted on 19-09-2009 15:45
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ruben wrote:
Boom dissapointing. Probably too tired to do better?
yeaah probably..p.s.this is GT final TT. It is always different |
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Posted on 19-09-2009 16:08
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For some reason, it kind of bugs me that Piti is wearing yellow and not gold. |
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Posted on 19-09-2009 16:09
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Looks are extremely deceiving and can't ever be relied upon in a TT. Evans looks fast.
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Posted on 19-09-2009 16:11
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Gesink 59 seconds back at point one.
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Guido Mukk |
Posted on 19-09-2009 16:14
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give me times..I am without a picture today.. |
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Kami |
Posted on 19-09-2009 16:16
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Finish
1 David Millar (Garmin-Slipstream) 35.53
2 Gustavo César Veloso (Xacobeo Galicia) 36:13
3 Roman Kreuziger (Liquigas) 36.23
4 Philippe Gilbert (Silence-Lotto) 36.27
David Herrero (Xacobeo Galicia) 36:30
Jesús Del Nero (Fuji-Servetto) 36:33
Lieuwe Westra (Vacansoleil) 36:36
Maciej Bodnar (Liquigas) 36:37
Fredrik Kessiakoff (Fuji-Servetto) 36:48
Frantisek Rabon (Columbia-HTC) 36:49
Stijn Devolder (Quick Step) 36:56
Dominik Roels (Milram) 37:09
Anthony Roux (Française des Jeux) 37:24
19.5km
1 David Millar (Garmin-Slipstream) 26.06
2 Gustavo César Veloso (Xacobeo Galicia) 26:18
3 Roman Kreuziger (Liquigas) 26.29
4 Maciej Bodnar (Liquigas) 26:27
David Herrero (Xacobeo Galicia) 26:32
Jesús Del Nero (Fuji-Servetto) 26:34
Frantisek Rabon (Columbia-HTC) 26:38
Times at 10km
1 Philippe Gilbert (Silence-Lotto) 11:51
2 Gustavo César Veloso (Xacobeo Galicia) 12:21
3 Maciej Bodnar (Liquigas) 12:52
4 Cadel Evans (Silence-Lotto) 12:24
Christophe Riblon (AG2R La Mondiale) 12:55
David Millar (Garmin-Slipstream) 12:55
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Posted on 19-09-2009 16:16
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Basso 11 seconds slower than Evans at the first checkpoint. |
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Guido Mukk |
Posted on 19-09-2009 16:19
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atthe moment looks like Evans got this stage.. |
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Kami |
Posted on 19-09-2009 16:19
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Sanchez 7 seconds behind Evans
Edited by Kami on 19-09-2009 16:22
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