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Andreas93
It is absolutely a subjective thougt, but he lost about 1'30 minutes at Valverde when he punctured, and even maybe 15-30 secounds extra, cause he had to struggle almost alone. Then,he lost some time at Pandora, where he had to be offensive, as a cause of the earlier time loss, and with out those time losses, I think he could had been a competitor of Valverde for tomorrows TT.
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ruben
I doubt it. Evans won 3, count em 3, seconds in the first TT, which was dead flat and completely in Evans advantage.

The second TT is hilly and shorter. I don't think Evans was ever going to win (neither was Gesink btw).
 
Guido Mukk
Isso told us after Vuelta profiles was anounced..that this time it is taylor made for Valverde..
Only guy he had to afraid Contador..did not start..so..
 
KurtinSC
After each GT this year, many fans have complained about how boring it was.

Last year was similar as well... after the Giro (which was animated largely by dopers).

Is this what Cycling is with today's equipment and team tactics with a "lesser" doping regime?

For the last two years, it seems the vast majority of attacks (or at least repeated attacks) have come from guys who months later have been caught doping. The "clean" guys... well they just haven't been able to attack... at least not repeatedly like we were used to seeing before.

Is that just the way it is without the higher powered doping regimine?

Or do the riders now just suck in comparison to the guys a few years back?
 
mb2612
KurtinSC wrote:
After each GT this year, many fans have complained about how boring it was.

Last year was similar as well... after the Giro (which was animated largely by dopers).

Is this what Cycling is with today's equipment and team tactics with a "lesser" doping regime?

For the last two years, it seems the vast majority of attacks (or at least repeated attacks) have come from guys who months later have been caught doping. The "clean" guys... well they just haven't been able to attack... at least not repeatedly like we were used to seeing before.

Is that just the way it is without the higher powered doping regimine?

Or do the riders now just suck in comparison to the guys a few years back?

I think people are just picky, you can't have a grand tour and have people atack at the bottom of every climb, riders arn't strong enough.

There are pretty much 2 things that make a GT great, drama and attacks.

Unfortunately attacks mean time gaps and, as such, you can't have both very easily. hence GT's are always dissapointing.
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ruben
Just make the teams smaller...

Max 6 riders per team!
 
ruben
And the final Gesink update:

"I refuse to give up, it is simply not in my system and I will regret giving up later on. Besides, the Vuelta is only 27km more, sunday is an easy ride.
Yes I'll go to the worlds. I've shown here I'm in super shape. I might not be next week, but if I even come remotely close I can do more than other rides from our country. So I'll go"
 
lagetcher
Millar currently has the best time, 30 seconds ahead of Kreuziger. He's also now riding for Astana according to cyclingnews Frown
 
Guido Mukk
Millsr was my bet for a day..I realy dont know nothing about he´s current condition..
 
ruben
Boom dissapointing. Probably too tired to do better?
 
fenian_1234
Yesterday's stage was a bit wet. Only thing of interest today is whether Basso can hold onto the podium. Very little chance I think.

Without his fall, and the way he rode Amstel earlier this year, I'd have had Gesink down as one of the big favorites for the Worlds this year.
 
Guido Mukk
ruben wrote:
Boom dissapointing. Probably too tired to do better?


yeaah probably..p.s.this is GT final TT. It is always different
 
fenian_1234
For some reason, it kind of bugs me that Piti is wearing yellow and not gold.
 
issoisso
Looks are extremely deceiving and can't ever be relied upon in a TT. Evans looks fast.
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Kami
Gesink 59 seconds back at point one.
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Guido Mukk
give me times..I am without a picture today..
 
Kami
Finish

1 David Millar (Garmin-Slipstream) 35.53
2 Gustavo César Veloso (Xacobeo Galicia) 36:13
3 Roman Kreuziger (Liquigas) 36.23
4 Philippe Gilbert (Silence-Lotto) 36.27
David Herrero (Xacobeo Galicia) 36:30
Jesús Del Nero (Fuji-Servetto) 36:33
Lieuwe Westra (Vacansoleil) 36:36
Maciej Bodnar (Liquigas) 36:37
Fredrik Kessiakoff (Fuji-Servetto) 36:48
Frantisek Rabon (Columbia-HTC) 36:49
Stijn Devolder (Quick Step) 36:56
Dominik Roels (Milram) 37:09
Anthony Roux (Française des Jeux) 37:24

19.5km

1 David Millar (Garmin-Slipstream) 26.06
2 Gustavo César Veloso (Xacobeo Galicia) 26:18
3 Roman Kreuziger (Liquigas) 26.29
4 Maciej Bodnar (Liquigas) 26:27
David Herrero (Xacobeo Galicia) 26:32
Jesús Del Nero (Fuji-Servetto) 26:34
Frantisek Rabon (Columbia-HTC) 26:38

Times at 10km

1 Philippe Gilbert (Silence-Lotto) 11:51
2 Gustavo César Veloso (Xacobeo Galicia) 12:21
3 Maciej Bodnar (Liquigas) 12:52
4 Cadel Evans (Silence-Lotto) 12:24
Christophe Riblon (AG2R La Mondiale) 12:55
David Millar (Garmin-Slipstream) 12:55
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lagetcher
Basso 11 seconds slower than Evans at the first checkpoint.
 
Guido Mukk
atthe moment looks like Evans got this stage..
 
Kami
Sanchez 7 seconds behind Evans
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