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| ember |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:41
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Well done by Ivanov. He was strong the whole day, wasn't he in a break that lasted 10-20km before too? |
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| Juan |
Posted on 19-04-2009 18:30
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as for F. Schleck , according to l'equipe, it is a brain (cerebral?) concussion (dont really know how to translate : in french it's called a "commotion cérébrale" |
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 19-04-2009 19:05
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CrueTrue wrote:
schleck93 wrote:
Christophe Riblon 6th quiet surprising and Roche 7th.
If the PCM.daily DB gave the same result, we'd get flamed for unrealistic stats.
Well if it did they could. Plus it would be any database
1 Sergei Ivanov (Rus) Team Katusha 6.38.31
2 Karsten Kroon (Ned) Team Saxo Bank
3 Robert Gesink (Ned) Rabobank 0.08
4 Philippe Gilbert (Bel) Silence-Lotto
5 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre - N.G.C.
6 Alexandr Kolobnev (Rus) Team Saxo Bank
7 Simon Gerrans (Aus) Cervelo Test Team
8 Nick Nuyens (Bel) Rabobank
9 Christian Pfannberger (Aut) Team Katusha
10 Andy Schleck (Lux) Team Saxo Bank |
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-04-2009 19:08
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What a great race. The last 70km were never boring. Always escapes and peloton coming back again. Cunego, Valverde and co were nowhere on the Keutenberg, already completely dead.
Nice jump by Gesink, but those few kilometers alone were too much I think. Ivanov was super strong today. You could see it the whole time. Great race by an oldtimer. Kroon was dying in his wheel.
The worst moment was when Thomas Dekker chased the lead group in the final kilometers  the crowd on the Cauberg wasn't very happy with that  |
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-04-2009 19:13
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CrueTrue wrote:
Again, it seemed like a rather 'easy' classic.
You fail @understanding this race.
But that's probably because you never rode there. 90% of those guys are completely dead. I saw dead bodies coming over the line.
Almost nobody has the power to attack on or after the Keuteberg. They are dead. It's quite straight forward really. This race kills the entire peloton. Even Valverde, Cunego, Sanchez and co were completely destroyed. I saw their faces at the finish line.
Cunego wasn't good enough to win, Gilbert wasn't either, because on top of the Keuteberg, that's the hardest place to attack. Almost everybody is at their limit there. And only Gesink, Kroon and Ivanov could attack. They had most left, they were the best guys in the race.
This race is very fair about that. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 19-04-2009 19:15
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That was in no way what I meant by it. What I meant was that the groups were way larger than normally - like in MSR. Not that it was an easy race, of course it isn't. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 19-04-2009 19:17
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Out of intrest ruben, i'm guessing you went. Where on the course where you?
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 19-04-2009 19:28
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CrueTrue wrote:
That was in no way what I meant by it. What I meant was that the groups were way larger than normally - like in MSR. Not that it was an easy race, of course it isn't.
Large groups where only there because the entire peleton was dead. Just like ruben said. The determination to stay on is extremely high when you are suffering. That's why there was a huge group. |
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| soda |
Posted on 19-04-2009 19:40
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Lloyd has a broken pelvis 
Schleck has a minor concussion. |
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| mrlol |
Posted on 19-04-2009 19:41
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yeh, it was quite obvious everybody was dead cus nobody from the peloton made a move on the Cauberg, while they came pretty close to the main groupe. A fresh Valverde / Cenuego / Rebellin etc. would have easily crossed the gap. But they wheren't fresh.
Too bad the Dutch came in two and three, but Ivanov was simply stronger. Nice race anyway. I hope the next two will be just like this, although the Fleche Wallone turns out a mass sprint uphill a little too often... |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 19-04-2009 19:55
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The only disapointing thing is that Silence gave up the chase (for a good reason) at the bottom of the Cauberg.
Other than that it was a good race.
Bring on Fleche... and my afternoon off 
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| ember |
Posted on 19-04-2009 20:09
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I really enjoyed the race too. It was interesting from the point Eurosport started to show the race, when Freire tried to bring Rabobank an ace. (Wasn't Ivanov there too?)
And I agree with you doddy, it was really disappointing to see the chase stop in Cauberg. But still, I think the right rider won, he was superstrong. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-04-2009 20:43
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I rode the AGR 150km tourist version 3 times now. And I really KNOW this final. It's so incredibly hard, that everytime I see the pro's going there, I'm suprised some of them still have the strength to attack.
You have the Kruisberg (very steep), a downhill, then Eyserbosweg (very steep), a downhill, then the Fromberg, and 3km of flat in nomansland (no recup), then the Keuteberg, which is incredibly hard, and another shitty plateau on false flat. Everybody is completely dead, yet the peloton is big, because it's hard to create large gaps on the climbs, so you have a big peloton, but most of them are ..well, dead!
If you see Rebellin and Valverde not being able to follow on the Keuteberg, you know how hard this race is. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-04-2009 20:49
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Yes, it's easy to underestimate this race. It's 260kms long. That's a very long ride. With 31 steep climbs. Not to mention the several hard uncategorized climbs.
Paulinho was co-commentator on eurosport today (he can't ride at this time of year because of very strong allergies. The last time he tried he fainted mid-race).
He was asked which of the three ardennes classics was the hardest. He didn't hesitate: Amstel.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 19-04-2009 20:51
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Smoothie wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
That was in no way what I meant by it. What I meant was that the groups were way larger than normally - like in MSR. Not that it was an easy race, of course it isn't.
Large groups where only there because the entire peleton was dead. Just like ruben said. The determination to stay on is extremely high when you are suffering. That's why there was a huge group.
Again, I understand that. But I'm pretty sure that you had the same determination last year and the year before that and the year before that, yet the groups were smaller. We once again experienced a rather 'slow' race with fewer attacks than normally, just like in Milano - Sanremo. My point? Maybe we really do have a cleaner peloton this year. |
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 19-04-2009 21:09
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CrueTrue wrote:
schleck93 wrote:
Christophe Riblon 6th quiet surprising and Roche 7th.
If the PCM.daily DB gave the same result, we'd get flamed for unrealistic stats.
After the corrected results it's time for a big laugh
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| raar1991 |
Posted on 19-04-2009 21:13
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Gustavovskiy wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
schleck93 wrote:
Christophe Riblon 6th quiet surprising and Roche 7th.
If the PCM.daily DB gave the same result, we'd get flamed for unrealistic stats.
After the corrected results it's time for a big laugh
you're completly right 
6 Alexandr Kolobnev (Rus) Team Saxo Bank
7 Simon Gerrans (Aus) Cervelo Test Team |
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 19-04-2009 21:17
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the most hilarious thing is that none of the 2 AG2R riders finished the race
I wonder how could they make such a mistake...
Anyway impressive placement by Gerrans!
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| viking90 |
Posted on 19-04-2009 21:20
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yep they had some problems with the results list right after the finnish. They sad Gustav Larsson ended 10th I was happy about that but later he suddenly became 20th which is not so bad after all. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-04-2009 21:24
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That's just stupid
I was wondering how Riblon had done that after a million years of ZERO results since almost winning l'Avenir |
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