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| Xavier |
Posted on 18-02-2009 20:25
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who is Dennis van Winden, Ruben? |
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| ruben |
Posted on 18-02-2009 22:50
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You mean you don't know him? Even after last year 
Puncheur with a good sprint. Is good in thougher races, hills and mountains. Although not top at long mountains.
And he is very quick, he nearly beat Balducci last year in a mass sprint in the Settimana Lombarda and...also finished 7th in the GC just 2 minutes behind Danilo di Luca.
Last year he also had a decent world championship where he finished in the first group after being one of the only riders who could escape out of the peloton in the final lap and make it to the front group where Duarte took the victory.
Good rouler, very good on hills, very fast in a sprint and decent in the mountains. He could become a very good rider for races like the Gold Race, Amstel, Liege, and hilly stages in small tours, especially in a sprint of small group.
He seems to have become even faster than last year though, because beating Fernandez and co. is a new one, even to me. |
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| Xavier |
Posted on 19-02-2009 09:28
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no didnt know him 
cool, thanks for the info, sounds promising
btw i read Bos got dropped in that same stage, was it a flat stage or was it hilly? |
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-02-2009 11:17
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It was hilly but he was not dropped on the climbs.
In fact, he was dropped in the final kilometres of the race when the speed went up. I think he never had to ride 60 km/h for longer than 1km in his life before 
He said against the Algemeen Dagblad he had a strategy for the climbs, start in front and drop back during the climb, so that worked well, but he was already exhausted when the peloton started preparing the sprint 
Give him a few months time and he will win stages like this. He just isn't used to riding on this kind of terrain at these speeds
Edited by ruben on 19-02-2009 11:17
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-02-2009 11:25
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Ruben wrote:
You mean you don't know him? Even after last year
Puncheur with a good sprint. Is good in thougher races, hills and mountains. Although not top at long mountains.
And he is very quick, he nearly beat Balducci last year in a mass sprint in the Settimana Lombarda and...also finished 7th in the GC just 2 minutes behind Danilo di Luca.
Last year he also had a decent world championship where he finished in the first group after being one of the only riders who could escape out of the peloton in the final lap and make it to the front group where Duarte took the victory.
Good rouler, very good on hills, very fast in a sprint and decent in the mountains. He could become a very good rider for races like the Gold Race, Amstel, Liege, and hilly stages in small tours, especially in a sprint of small group.
He seems to have become even faster than last year though, because beating Fernandez and co. is a new one, even to me.
Small correction: he didn't make it across. He came close, but only 2 riders made contact: one certain rider who bridged the gap on his own and another who sat on the certain rider's wheel not taking a single relay.
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-02-2009 14:21
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No Issoiso, he DID bridge the gap. Just at the very end, but he couldn't sprint anymore, as he just made contact. The video is still on Sporza, for further reference. I can even remember Wuyts saying "now Van Winden makes contact, and he's fast as well, but they are close to the finish line, he might not recover"
So, in this case, you are wrong. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-02-2009 14:23
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https://www.sporza...n_verslag#
Watch: Laatste kilometer (Final kilomtre)
FIRST thing you see, an orange guy making it into the group and Wuyts saying: "Voila, Van Winden doet mee" (means, Van Winden is in the game/is in the front)
Ofcourse he immediately had to let go when they started the sprint, but he did bridge across... definately.
Edited by ruben on 19-02-2009 14:26
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| mrlol |
Posted on 19-02-2009 14:25
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Ruben's right. He did brigde the gap on the long straight just before the corner to the track. |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 19-02-2009 16:48
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issoisso wrote:
Ruben wrote:
You mean you don't know him? Even after last year
Puncheur with a good sprint. Is good in thougher races, hills and mountains. Although not top at long mountains.
And he is very quick, he nearly beat Balducci last year in a mass sprint in the Settimana Lombarda and...also finished 7th in the GC just 2 minutes behind Danilo di Luca.
Last year he also had a decent world championship where he finished in the first group after being one of the only riders who could escape out of the peloton in the final lap and make it to the front group where Duarte took the victory.
Good rouler, very good on hills, very fast in a sprint and decent in the mountains. He could become a very good rider for races like the Gold Race, Amstel, Liege, and hilly stages in small tours, especially in a sprint of small group.
He seems to have become even faster than last year though, because beating Fernandez and co. is a new one, even to me.
Small correction: he didn't make it across. He came close, but only 2 riders made contact: one certain rider who bridged the gap on his own and another who sat on the certain rider's wheel not taking a single relay.
who were these guys?
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| p3druh |
Posted on 19-02-2009 17:07
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Ruben wrote:
You mean you don't know him? Even after last year
Puncheur with a good sprint. Is good in thougher races, hills and mountains. Although not top at long mountains.
And he is very quick, he nearly beat Balducci last year in a mass sprint in the Settimana Lombarda and...also finished 7th in the GC just 2 minutes behind Danilo di Luca.
Last year he also had a decent world championship where he finished in the first group after being one of the only riders who could escape out of the peloton in the final lap and make it to the front group where Duarte took the victory.
Good rouler, very good on hills, very fast in a sprint and decent in the mountains. He could become a very good rider for races like the Gold Race, Amstel, Liege, and hilly stages in small tours, especially in a sprint of small group.
He seems to have become even faster than last year though, because beating Fernandez and co. is a new one, even to me.
Small correction: he didn't make it across. He came close, but only 2 riders made contact: one certain rider who bridged the gap on his own and another who sat on the certain rider's wheel not taking a single relay.
who were these guys?
Rui Costa and Ponzi I guess...
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-02-2009 17:18
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Video won't load for me, but if you says so I'll believe you
p3druh wrote:
Rui Costa and Ponzi I guess...
Silin
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-02-2009 17:27
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Btw, Algarve today won by Koldo Fernandez
And before anybody says something about Bos finishing at 12 minutes. He had a flat tire at 20km to go. He was never in trouble according to Piet Kuys (Rabo DS) |
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| p3druh |
Posted on 19-02-2009 17:52
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issoisso wrote:
Video won't load for me, but if you says so I'll believe you
p3druh wrote:
Rui Costa and Ponzi I guess...
Silin
I just remember that the guy was in a blue jersey so I assumed it was Ponzi. Btw, didn't Ponzi join the front group at the same time as Rui Costa?
In other news, the top-10 for today's Volta ao Algarve stage 2:
1st Koldo Fernández (Eusklatel-Euskadi), 4h56m54s (37,487 km/h)
2nd Manuel Cadoso (Liberty Seguros), st
3rd Gerald Ciolek (Milram), st
The arrival was in a steep slop so it was more about power than speed. Koldo takes the overall lead.
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| mrlol |
Posted on 19-02-2009 18:14
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Ruben wrote:
Btw, Algarve today won by Koldo Fernandez
And before anybody says something about Bos finishing at 12 minutes. He had a flat tire at 20km to go. He was never in trouble according to Piet Kuys (Rabo DS)
if thats true, he's making fast progress |
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 19-02-2009 19:43
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Jaan Kirsipuu was 4th in Tour du Cameroon.
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| Stairs |
Posted on 19-02-2009 22:07
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I see this thread is good for posting non-results with obsession-riders.
1 24POSTHUMA, Joost NED RAB 17h28'40" 43
2 91TONDO VOLPINI, Xavier ESP ACA a 02" 69
3 41REBELLIN, Davide ITA SDA a 03" 46
4 74VELITS, Martin SVK MRM a 05" 76
5 47SCARPONI, Michele ITA SDA a 18" 75
6 86OROZ UGALDE, Juan Jose ESP EUS a 21" 42
7 5LÓPEZ GARCÍA, David ESP GCE a 21" 68
8 105INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA, Beñat ESP FUJ a 23" 12
9 22FLECHA GIANNONI, Juan A ESP RAB a 34" 7
10 42SIMONI, Gilberto ITA SDA a 51" 67
11 104CAPECCHI, Eros ITA FUJ a 57" 2
12 1LASTRAS GARCIA, Pablo ESP GCE a 01'32" 15
13 71GERDEMANN, Linus GER MRM a 01'39" 66
14 121VAZQUEZ HUESO, Manuel ESP MCO a 01'39" 98
15 23LANGEVELD, Sebastian NED RAB a 01'50" 79
16 112VORGANOV, Eduard RUS XGZ a 02'00" 90
17 21MENCHOV, Denis RUS RAB a 02'13" 57
18 65BOTCHAROV, Alexandre RUS KAT a 02'23" 89
19 102DE LA FUENTE RASILLA, David ESP FUJ a 02'41" 70
20 87NIEVE ITURRALDE, Mikel ESP EUS a 02'50" 61
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-02-2009 22:30
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Posthuma 
Oh yeah and Langeveld |
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| Xavier |
Posted on 20-02-2009 20:29
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mrlol wrote:
Ruben wrote:
Btw, Algarve today won by Koldo Fernandez
And before anybody says something about Bos finishing at 12 minutes. He had a flat tire at 20km to go. He was never in trouble according to Piet Kuys (Rabo DS)
if thats true, he's making fast progress
he gave up today  |
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| p3druh |
Posted on 21-02-2009 00:05
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3rd stage of the Volta ao Algarve (with a 2nd Category climb coinciding with the finish):
1st Antonio Colom (Katusha), 4h35m42s (38,085 km/h)
2nd Alberto Contador (Astana), st
3rd Rubén Plaza (LIberty Seguros), at 6s
4th Bruno Pires (Barbot-Siper), at 10s
5th Tiago Machado (Madeinox-Boavista), at 12s
6th Simon Gerrans (Cervélo Teste Team), at 17s
7th David Blanco (Palmeiras Resort-Prio-Tavira), st
8th Nelson Vitorino (Palmeiras Resort-Prio-Tavira), st
9th Damiano Cuneo (Lampre-NGC), st
10th Sergey Lagutin (Vacansoleil), at 22s
Overall:
1st Antonio Colom (Katusha), 14h04m09s
2nd Alberto Contador (Astana), at 4s
3rd Rubén Plaza (Liberty Seguros), at 12s
4th Bruno Pires (Barbot-Siper), at 20s
5th Tiago Machado (Madeinox-Boavista), at 22s
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-02-2009 00:09
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Xavier wrote:
mrlol wrote:
Ruben wrote:
Btw, Algarve today won by Koldo Fernandez
And before anybody says something about Bos finishing at 12 minutes. He had a flat tire at 20km to go. He was never in trouble according to Piet Kuys (Rabo DS)
if thats true, he's making fast progress
he gave up today Yeah, the pace was really high on the first few climbs since no break got away. They kept attacking and attacking which wasn't in Bos favour
He'll get there in time, if he keeps making progress. |
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