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| Smoothie |
Posted on 07-10-2008 22:48
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Considering its the most ancient sporting event. Probably a who bunch of people. |
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| brun sweater |
Posted on 07-10-2008 22:55
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...a bunch of ancient people?  |
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 08-10-2008 07:04
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Ah i wanna bet that at least 40 people were doped at the olympics.
(pessismistic me )
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 08-10-2008 20:12
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Manager of Amore e Vita Ivano Fanini has told a rather funny story - it's not very surprising if it's true, though. He says that Pantani was doped throughout the entire Giro 1998, but that he avoided a positive doping test by bribing Riccardo Forconi, the only clean Mercatone Uno-rider at that time, to switch his and Pantani's tests -- which meant that Forconi tested positive, Pantani negative.
Shortly after, Riccardo Forconi moved into a large villa in Toscana, Italy. |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 08-10-2008 20:20
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I wonder where he got the money?
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 08-10-2008 20:22
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yea apparantly he payed with a villa.
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-10-2008 23:26
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There may be more positives from the Tour de France, as French anti-doping boss Pierre Bordry has said that his agency will go after riders who used autologous blood transfusions. "We already have serious evidence about cases of such autologous transfusions," Bordry said in an interview with the German television sender ZDF. "As to who might be involved, we will be able to say that later."
The AFLD, the French anti-doping agency, has a new method of detecting such transfusions, a method which was not available earlier. The agency will use the method to test the doping samples of suspect riders.
At the moment the agency is busy checking samples for CERA, the new EPO, "but soon we will be able to prove autologous transfusions and we will then test with it."
The agency already has its eye on riders who demonstrated irregular blood values before the Tour, about 30 altogether, and has already informed the riders and their teams. Some of the riders had their blood values returned to normal during the Tour, but others did not. "Some of the suspect riders got back to their normal values. We were very surprised to see, how weak their performance became," Bordry said.
He had already mentioned the "very weak" part during the Tour. at the time, it was very clear from the context that he was referring to Cunego.
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| t-baum |
Posted on 08-10-2008 23:33
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CrueTrue wrote:
Manager of Amore e Vita Ivano Fanini has told a rather funny story - it's not very surprising if it's true, though. He says that Pantani was doped throughout the entire Giro 1998, but that he avoided a positive doping test by bribing Riccardo Forconi, the only clean Mercatone Uno-rider at that time, to switch his and Pantani's tests -- which meant that Forconi tested positive, Pantani negative.
Shortly after, Riccardo Forconi moved into a large villa in Toscana, Italy.
Good story 
And Pantani was so badass on a bike
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race." |
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| Phanekim |
Posted on 09-10-2008 06:45
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issoisso wrote:
There may be more positives from the Tour de France, as French anti-doping boss Pierre Bordry has said that his agency will go after riders who used autologous blood transfusions. "We already have serious evidence about cases of such autologous transfusions," Bordry said in an interview with the German television sender ZDF. "As to who might be involved, we will be able to say that later."
The AFLD, the French anti-doping agency, has a new method of detecting such transfusions, a method which was not available earlier. The agency will use the method to test the doping samples of suspect riders.
At the moment the agency is busy checking samples for CERA, the new EPO, "but soon we will be able to prove autologous transfusions and we will then test with it."
The agency already has its eye on riders who demonstrated irregular blood values before the Tour, about 30 altogether, and has already informed the riders and their teams. Some of the riders had their blood values returned to normal during the Tour, but others did not. "Some of the suspect riders got back to their normal values. We were very surprised to see, how weak their performance became," Bordry said.
He had already mentioned the "very weak" part during the Tour. at the time, it was very clear from the context that he was referring to Cunego.
Its very interesting to see who turns up as dirty. lol. |
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| Phanekim |
Posted on 09-10-2008 08:36
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Methods to detect autologous doping?
https://playthegam...10088.aspx |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 09-10-2008 08:38
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It's in the posts immediately above, yes
If these are reliable and the new HGH test coming in early 2009 is also reliable....then all that's left is to find a reliable test for EPO.
Can we actually see clean cycling in the near future? That would be absolutely fantastic. I'm keeping my fingers crossed |
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Posted on 24-11-2024 12:55
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| brun sweater |
Posted on 09-10-2008 09:02
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...but the danish researcher, working on this blood transfusion test, is from Bispebjerg Hospital. The same institution in charge CSC's and Astana's internal testing regimes!?
Personally I trust Rasmus Damsgaard and his team, but I've comed to learn that not everybody has the same opinion! The distrust mainly circulates around riders being part of CSC, before Damsgaards introduction to the team, and the fact that they perform really well, and of course Riis' reputation as an überdoper. Also Astana aren't particular trusted. But what I'm aiming at is, will this bring any satisfaction to reputation of cycling?
For me personally it's great, but I fear the wild accusations will never stop?
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| jacknic |
Posted on 09-10-2008 11:14
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Hehe. I can hear the conspiracy theories loud and clear. The test method is developed on Bispebjerg Hospital so Damsgaard will naturally have a method of avoiding being caught. Thus his teams will be the strongest of the bunch. |
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| Rin |
Posted on 09-10-2008 11:21
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The UCI said that Garmin will become next year a Protour team the contract is a 3 years contract |
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 09-10-2008 11:22
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its well earned
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 09-10-2008 11:42
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Rin wrote:
The UCI said that Garmin will become next year a Protour team the contract is a 3 years contract
Any word on which team(s) will 'relegate'?
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| Rin |
Posted on 09-10-2008 11:47
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No , just that Garmin will become UCI ProTour team
Also the races Vattenfall Cyclassics , Tour de Suisse and Dauphine Libere will be ProTour races 2009-2012
https://www.uci.ch...D%3DMTYxNw |
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| Petterla |
Posted on 09-10-2008 12:02
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CrueTrue wrote:
Rin wrote:
The UCI said that Garmin will become next year a Protour team the contract is a 3 years contract
Any word on which team(s) will 'relegate'?
Aren't there a couple of free seats with Cofidis and Gerolsteiner folding inn? I believe I read somewhere that Katyusha was to be a ProTour team as well, albeit that might just be me imagining things. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 09-10-2008 12:08
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There are teams who stop and some other teams, like Cofidis and Liquigas, who pulled out of the Pro Tour for 2009 Crue  So there is plenty of space |
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| raar1991 |
Posted on 09-10-2008 12:09
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Earlier, they said that Katyusha will be pro tour team if there will be pro tour  |
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