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| cio93 |
Posted on 19-04-2014 09:18
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I didn't know LBL is not national teams, then of course it's hard for Herklotz to have a shot when Stölting is not invited 
I guess he will try to improve on his second places in Giro del Belvedere and Palio del Recioto on Monday and Tuesday though 
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 19-04-2014 16:25
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 ZLM tour (1.Ncup)
A very tough race in Netherlands, lots of attacks. In the end, the man on form Boudat won the sprint from the break. He's got some form going right now.
 Liège - Bastogne - Liège (1.2U)
Few riders will be gutted as a late break made it to the finish. These four attacked with 11km to go and looked at some point about to be caught, but seems organization in the leading group of 10 wasn't enough.
Bit of a surprise winner for sure, will be intresting if it was one off for him or he can show off in other races. Good race by Theuns and the promising Brit.
Benoot will be gutted for sure, I know he made the selection, but missed the attack it looks. Wonder if he won the sprint for 5th, I kinda hope he didn't ( but knowing he has amazing sprint he very likely will win it )as he'll be kicking himself they allowed that group to go.
EDIT: And seeing the results Tiesj will be gutted indeed. Unlucky, but showing his talent further. Most consistent U23 rider this spring!!
Edited by Alakagom on 19-04-2014 17:02
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| jph27 |
Posted on 19-04-2014 17:51
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And Boudat performs again! 
Turgis a bit of a surprise, but not a massive one for me. Very good all rounder, and has a pretty good sprint. Benoot will be disappointed for sure, but still a huge talent.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 21-04-2014 17:39
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cio93 wrote:
I didn't know LBL is not national teams, then of course it's hard for Herklotz to have a shot when Stölting is not invited
I guess he will try to improve on his second places in Giro del Belvedere and Palio del Recioto on Monday and Tuesday though
Well, he sadly couldn't improve his result in Giro del Belvedere, but he equaled it! 
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| depeche92 |
Posted on 22-04-2014 19:47
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cio93 wrote:
cio93 wrote:
I didn't know LBL is not national teams, then of course it's hard for Herklotz to have a shot when Stölting is not invited
I guess he will try to improve on his second places in Giro del Belvedere and Palio del Recioto on Monday and Tuesday though
Well, he sadly couldn't improve his result in Giro del Belvedere, but he equaled it!
Herklotz won today Palio del Recioto coming alone at the finish. Second was Robert Power ( another great talent btw ) 
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| cio93 |
Posted on 22-04-2014 19:49
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He has a contract at Stölting for another year, but it looks like they want to promote soon, so he might stay there all the way
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| roturn |
Posted on 22-04-2014 19:53
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Team Stölting wants to become PCT next season.
They are obviously in spoinsor negotiations and hope to have finished those until end of April/May.
There was an interview earlier this year, where the team said something like becoming PCT already in 2015 would be possible and they will try to bring back some of the best Germans to a German team. No names were named but guys like Martin, Kittel, Degenkolb, Greipel etc. were obvious rumours. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 22-04-2014 19:57
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roturn wrote:
Team Stölting wants to become PCT next season.
They are obviously in spoinsor negotiations and hope to have finished those until end of April/May.
There was an interview earlier this year, where the team said something like becoming PCT already in 2015 would be possible and they will try to bring back some of the best Germans to a German team. No names were named but guys like Martin, Kittel, Degenkolb, Greipel etc. were obvious rumours.
Imagine any of them going down to PCT
Gesckhe, Nerz, Mertens, Wegmann, Burghardt, Arndt, Wagner or Thurau would be reasonable names to try and sign. Obviosuly not all, but few of these would make them a decent PCT squad.
Anyhow, Robert Power is big talent. He's the only one that could kept pace with Luke Durbridge in Oceanian Road Race taking silver. He already has a 3rd place in one Italian classic, this is his another. And at 19, that's well impressive.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 22-04-2014 20:08
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Alakagom wrote:
Gesckhe, Nerz, Mertens, Wegmann, Burghardt, Arndt, Wagner or Thurau would be reasonable names to try and sign. Obviosuly not all, but few of these would make them a decent PCT squad.
Yep. Take Wegmann, Burghardt and Wagner and you have three riders not playing too much of a role in their own team that could win .1 races.
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| roturn |
Posted on 22-04-2014 20:10
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Obviously this was not a goal for 2015.
But in the long term they hope to have some of the best Germans. In longterm I guess also becoming WT might be in their plans.
For 2015 in case they make it to PCT, your names obviously are the correct ones. Add Selig eventually as well.
Edited by roturn on 22-04-2014 20:10
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| Wilier |
Posted on 23-04-2014 08:06
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And a win for Silvio.
 GP Palio del Recioto (180 km) (1.2U)
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 23-04-2014 08:10
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 24-04-2014 18:04
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Another big race, although not specifically for U23, it mostly is. and it has quite a long name
Le Tour de Bretagne Cycliste trophée harmonie Mutuelle
7 stages long. The GC should be decided by puncheurs, with a combination of sprinter and hilly stages.
And one of best startlists you can find for U23 I think. It's packed, to say the least.
Spoiler La liste des engagés :
Team Gourmetfein Simplon Wels
1 Daniel BIEDERMANN
2 Paul ILLENBERGER
3 Matija KVASINA
4 Matej MARIN
5 Mario SCHOIBL
6 Sebastian SCHÖNBERGER
Bretagne-Séché Environnement
11 Clément KORETZKY
12 Erwann CORBEL
13 Benjamin LEMONTAGNER
14 Pierre-Luc PERICHON
15 Vegard STAKE LAENGEN
16 Jean-Marc BIDEAU
Rabobank Development Team
21 Floris GERTS
22 Bert-Jan LINDEMAN
23 Timo ROOSEN
24 Ivar SLIK
25 Andre LOOIJ
26 Mike TEUNISSEN
Leopard Development Team
31 Piero BAFFI
32 Kevin FEIERESEN
33 Alex KIRSCH
34 Florian SALZINGER
35 Pit SCHLECHTER
36 Tomas THILL
Continental Team Astana
41 Marco BENFATTO
42 Iliya DAVIDENOK
43 Michele SCARTEZZINI
44 Dmitry RIVE
45 Vadim GALEYEV
46 Roman SEMYONOV
Etixx
51 Paco GHISTELINCK
52 Alexis GUERIN
53 Samuel SPOKES
54 Daniel HOELGAARD
55 Jan HIRT
56 Karel HNIK
Fundacion Contador Team
61 Juan CAMACHO DEL FRESNO
62 Enric MAS NICOLAU
63 Juan Antonio LOPEZ COZAR
64 David CASILLAS OVIEDO
65 Miguel Angel AGUILERA SEGURA
66 Iosu ANGOITIA UGARTEEXEA
Synergy Baku Cycling Project
71 Maksym AVERIN
72 Matthew BRAMMEIER
73 Luke DAVISON
74 Daniel KLEMME
75 Christoph SCHWEIZER
76 Jan SOKOL
Team Joker
81 Oskar Nikolai Birger SVENDSEN
82 Kristoffer SKJERPING
83 Odd Christian EIKING
84 Vegard Robinson BUGGE
85 Reidar Bohlin BORGERSEN
86 Edvin WILSON
BMC Development Team
91 Tom BOHLI
92 Taylor EISENHART
93 Arnaud GRAND
94 Ignazio MOSER
95 Dylan TEUNS
96 Loic VLIEGEN
Team Sparebanken Sor
101 Sondre HOLST ENGER
102 Amund GRONDAHL JANSEN
103 Bjorn Tore HOEM
104 Sindre LUNKE
105 Andréas ERLAND
106 Thomas LARSEN
Lotto-Belisol U23
111 Tiesj BENOOT
112 Jome CAROLUS
113 Hayden McCORMICK
114 Daniel McLAY
115 Xandro MEURISSE
116 Dimitri PEYSKENS
Australie
121 Caleb EWAN
122 Alex EDMONDSON
123 Robert-Jon MCCARTHY
124 Alexander MORGAN
125 Glen O'SHEA
126 Miles SCOTSON
4-72 Colombia
131 Juan Pablo VILLEGAS
132 Carlos Alberto URAN ARROYAVE
133 Fernando ORJUELA GUTIERREZ
134 Yean Stefan RODRIGUEZ SEPULDEVA
135 Juan Diego QUINTERO GIL
136 Bernardo SUAZA ARANGO
Itera-Katusha
141 Dmitrii IGNATEV
142 Dmitriy KOSYAKOV
143 Sergey NIKOLAEV
144 Maxim POKIDOV
145 Pavel PTASHIN
146 Maxim RAZUMOV
Sojasun espoir-ACNC
151 Cédric DELAPLACE
152 Julien GUAY
153 Ronan DEQUIPPE
154 Sean HAMBROOK
155 Benoît POITEVIN
156 Fabrice SEIGNEUR
Armée de Terre
161 Yann GUYOT
162 Romain COMBAUD
163 Romain LE ROUX
164 Mathieu TEYCHENNE
165 Kévin LEBRETON
166 Bruno ARMIRAIL
Team U Nantes Atlantique
171 Clément BARBEAU
172 Mathieu CLOAREC
173 Lorenzo MANZIN
174 Anthony MIRA
175 Fabien SCHMIDT
176 Polychronis TZORTZAKIS
Vendée U
181 Thomas BOUDAT
182 Romain CARDIS
183 Jérémy CORNU
184 Romain GUYOT
185 Fabien GRELLIER
186 Julien MORICE
Brest Iroise Cyclisme 2000
191 David LE LAY
192 Olivier LE GAC
193 Maxime LE MONTAGNER
194 Yann BOTREL
195 Anthony HASPOT
196 Vincent GUEZENNEC
Wallonie-Bruxelles
201 Maxime ANCIAUX
202 Tom DERNIES
203 Laurent EVRARD
204 Christophe PREMONT
205 Julien STASSEN
206 Quentin BERTHOLET
Team Dukla Praha
211 Martin HACECKY
212 Vojtech HACECKY
213 Jiri HOCMANN
214 Alois KANKOVSKY
215 Denis RUGOVAC
216 Ondrej RYBIN
Etats-Unis
221 Robin CARPENTER
222 Jeffrey PERRIN
223 Logan OWEN
224 Daniel EATON
225 Alex DARVILLE
226 Geoffrey CURRAN
Bretagne
231 Franck BONNAMOUR
232 Maxime CAM
233 David CHERBONNET
234 Ronan HARDY
235 Rodolphe MARIE
236 Frédéric GUILLEMOT
Far too many favoruites to mention all. But I'll point some that should feature for sure.
Matija Kvasina will be one of contenders here and is deinifetly not U23 rider ( 32 years of age ) Got 10th in Tour of Austria last year, good rider.
For GC, it's likely names like Koretzky, Spokes,Kirsch, Hirt Benoot, Svendsen, Teuns, Enger. There is also a Colombian team that will surely feature, but don't have time to research them. But to be fair, the GC is wide open. Close to sea, echelons will be present so the race will be split potentially every day even on flat stages. Even a sprinter could possibly win, not too sure how selective the hilly stages are in this years edition.
For sprints, its Ewan, Looij, Benefatto, Skjerping, McLay or Boudat that should feature often.
Edited by Alakagom on 24-04-2014 18:05
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-04-2014 19:44
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Oh, that's cool. I love that race in PCM
I think Teunissen is more likely to be expected than Looij, though admitted, Looij is on form. Also, Lindeman has a chance here, I suppose, especially with echelons.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 24-04-2014 20:21
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Should be interesting, with the penultimate stage ending in Talensac, up a ~500 m wall. There'll be gaps, no matter how it ends (breakaway or bunch sprint).
Lots of familiar roads for me, and lots of familiar names as well, especially in local teams.
The lack of TT should make it a relatively close business for the GC. Looking forward to it.
Now, after a closer look at the route : it could have been more difficult, especially in terms of total ascent. The race doesn't really go in the hilliest places of the region (Finistère (West) from middle to North, very centre around Mur-de-Bretagne, and around Saint-Brieuc).
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 25-04-2014 06:49
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What a stuffed startlist. Looking forward to how Etixx will do, with Hirt and Hnik as main weapons.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 26-04-2014 07:42
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Boudat and Teunissen impress on Stage 1, with an uphill finish after a hilly circuit (I think from the race website). Ewan not racing it seems.
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| roturn |
Posted on 29-04-2014 18:04
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Willwohl more and more develops into a nice rider I think. He has a good potential to become a good rider in future I think.
Give him 2-3 years on U23/CT level and he could make the jump to PCT/WT with 22/23 I think.
 Carpathian Couriers Race U-23 - Stage 1
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 30-04-2014 06:56
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Two Metinvest riders in top4.
And nice win for Willi, i somehow find his name very funny, it is like Willy Wonka.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-04-2014 17:08
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2014 » 48th Le Tour de Bretagne Cycliste trophée harmonie Mutuelle (2.2)
Stage 6 » Radenac › Talensac (155.2k/96.5m)
Breakaway win for Looij. Having a strong season.
2014 » Carpathian Couriers Race U-23 (2.2U)
Stage 2 » Nitra › Povazka Bystrica (154k/95.7m)
So yay, 2 Dutchies
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