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TdF'13 Stage 18 - Gap to Alpe-d'Huez (July 18)
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| BritPCMFan |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:43
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Why would Belkin help Sky? I don't get it.
Why would Belkin help Contador take more time out of their GC guys? |
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| Kimmage |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:46
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Dizzle wrote:
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Why would Belkin help Sky? I don't get it.
Because Belkin wants to get Mollema on the podium.
How should such alliance aid that? I don't see Mollema going anywhere but backwards in the GC.
It doesn't really matter what you think. Belkin has to ride with the presumption that Mollema can gain time back in the GC. Making an alliance with Sky against Saxo makes that much more likely. |
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| Dizzle |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:46
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BritPCMFan wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
Why would Belkin help Sky? I don't get it.
Why would Belkin help Contador take more time out of their GC guys?
And how would they do that?  Mollema won't be able to follow Contador nor Kreuziger, most likely won't be able to follow Froomebot either. Win/win for Sky, Loss/loss for Belkin.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:47
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Riis123 wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
Why would Belkin help Sky? I don't get it.
You cant say you are surprised, can you?
If it wasn't for Belkin, your beloved SaxoBank would have never gained time on Froome, so shut up
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:47
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Saxo copying Schlecks Galibier attack. |
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| BritPCMFan |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:48
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Kimmage wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
Kimmage wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
Why would Belkin help Sky? I don't get it.
Because Belkin wants to get Mollema on the podium.
How should such alliance aid that? I don't see Mollema going anywhere but backwards in the GC.
It doesn't really matter what you think. Belkin has to ride with the presumption that Mollema can gain time back in the GC. Making an alliance with Sky against Saxo makes that much more likely.
Exactly. So... next question.
Why are Eus helping Saxobank (Other then obvious, lets help the Spanish dude reasons) |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:48
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So Sky released Froome's power data for the last 2 years to L'Equipe and they go to leading French expert Grappe...seriously...the guy who said Armstrong was at the limit of human physiology...L'Equipe..seriously?
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| Malkael |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:48
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Race Radio saying that the Group Roche-Paulinho has grown the gap out to 1'00", and still growing. |
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| alexkr00 |
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Saxo copying Schlecks Galibier attack.
I wonder where Schleck picked that up
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:50
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alexkr00 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
Why would Belkin help Sky? I don't get it.
You cant say you are surprised, can you?
If it wasn't for Belkin, your beloved SaxoBank would have never gained time on Froome, so shut up
Actually, I do like Movistar and Euskaltel much more than Saxo (I have never really liked their leaders on the team - Hamilton, Basso, Sastre and Andy where Conta is the only exception..) So, you assume that i looove Saxo based on the fact that i live in Denmark? Well done, sir
Valverde, Nieve, Quintana, Sanchez and Rodriguez is much more my cop of tea. |
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| BritPCMFan |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:50
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Dizzle wrote:
BritPCMFan wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
Why would Belkin help Sky? I don't get it.
Why would Belkin help Contador take more time out of their GC guys?
And how would they do that? Mollema won't be able to follow Contador nor Kreuziger, most likely won't be able to follow Froomebot either. Win/win for Sky, Loss/loss for Belkin.
In that case, why is Saxo bothering to attack at all. Froome will shut evreything down and win.
Lets just go home now shall we? |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:52
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Riis123 wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
Why would Belkin help Sky? I don't get it.
You cant say you are surprised, can you?
If it wasn't for Belkin, your beloved SaxoBank would have never gained time on Froome, so shut up
Actually, I do like Movistar and Euskaltel much more than Saxo (I have never really liked their leaders on the team - Hamilton, Basso, Sastre and Andy where Conta is the only exception..) So, you assume that i looove Saxo based on the fact that i live in Denmark? Well done, sir
Valverde, Nieve, Quintana, Sanchez and Rodriguez is much more my cop of tea.
because of your username?
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| Dizzle |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:52
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BritPCMFan wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
BritPCMFan wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
Why would Belkin help Sky? I don't get it.
Why would Belkin help Contador take more time out of their GC guys?
And how would they do that? Mollema won't be able to follow Contador nor Kreuziger, most likely won't be able to follow Froomebot either. Win/win for Sky, Loss/loss for Belkin.
In that case, why is Saxo bothering to attack at all. Froome will shut evreything down and win.
Lets just go home now shall we?
To make things interesting. Belkin aiding Sky with making this race boring is why I am against it.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:53
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alexkr00 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
Why would Belkin help Sky? I don't get it.
You cant say you are surprised, can you?
If it wasn't for Belkin, your beloved SaxoBank would have never gained time on Froome, so shut up
Actually, I do like Movistar and Euskaltel much more than Saxo (I have never really liked their leaders on the team - Hamilton, Basso, Sastre and Andy where Conta is the only exception..) So, you assume that i looove Saxo based on the fact that i live in Denmark? Well done, sir
Valverde, Nieve, Quintana, Sanchez and Rodriguez is much more my cop of tea.
because of your username?
Dude, thats my surname. lal |
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| Kimmage |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:53
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BritPCMFan wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
BritPCMFan wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
Why would Belkin help Sky? I don't get it.
Why would Belkin help Contador take more time out of their GC guys?
And how would they do that? Mollema won't be able to follow Contador nor Kreuziger, most likely won't be able to follow Froomebot either. Win/win for Sky, Loss/loss for Belkin.
In that case, why is Saxo bothering to attack at all. Froome will shut evreything down and win.
Lets just go home now shall we?
I agree. Lets just end the race now. We don't need the last few stages. Infact, we should just have handed the jersey to Froome in Porto Vecchio, no need to have a race at all. |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:54
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Belkin should be smart enough to let Skyborgs to do all the work. Sky got far more to lose than Belkin have. |
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| Dizzle |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:55
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Kimmage wrote:
BritPCMFan wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
BritPCMFan wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
Why would Belkin help Sky? I don't get it.
Why would Belkin help Contador take more time out of their GC guys?
And how would they do that? Mollema won't be able to follow Contador nor Kreuziger, most likely won't be able to follow Froomebot either. Win/win for Sky, Loss/loss for Belkin.
In that case, why is Saxo bothering to attack at all. Froome will shut evreything down and win.
Lets just go home now shall we?
I agree. Lets just end the race now. We don't need the last few stages. Infact, we should just have handed the jersey to Froome in Porto Vecchio, no need to have a race at all.
Belkin might aswell..
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| BritPCMFan |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:56
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Dizzle wrote:
BritPCMFan wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
BritPCMFan wrote:
Dizzle wrote:
Why would Belkin help Sky? I don't get it.
Why would Belkin help Contador take more time out of their GC guys?
And how would they do that? Mollema won't be able to follow Contador nor Kreuziger, most likely won't be able to follow Froomebot either. Win/win for Sky, Loss/loss for Belkin.
In that case, why is Saxo bothering to attack at all. Froome will shut evreything down and win.
Lets just go home now shall we?
To make things interesting. Belkin aiding Sky with making this race boring is why I am against it.
They arent paid to do that though. They are paid to get exposure and results, both of which are are trying to achieve here (working the front gets your more coverage).
Personally, I think Contador turning up half fit made this tour boring along with Moviestar backing the wrong man.
EDIT: Although, this tour has been anything but boring tbh, so its all relative.
Edited by BritPCMFan on 18-07-2013 12:57
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| BritPCMFan |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:58
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Belkin should be smart enough to let Skyborgs to do all the work. Sky got far more to lose than Belkin have.
Thats not true either. Sky can lose 4 minutes without losing anything. Belkin need to make up time. |
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| Dizzle |
Posted on 18-07-2013 12:58
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BritPCMFan wrote:
They arent paid to do that though. They are paid to get exposure and results, both of which are are trying to achieve here (working the front gets your more coverage).
Personally, I think Contador turning up half fit made this tour boring along with Moviestar backing the wrong man.
EDIT: Although, this tour has been anything but boring tbh, so its all relative.
True. My consensus is Froomebot made this tour boring, though 
Edited by Dizzle on 18-07-2013 12:59
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