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Vuelta a España - Week 2
wackojackohighcliffe
issoisso wrote:
Oh they weren't all that dodgy betwee 2005 and 2011. But with the current management it doesn't get much dodgier.

Sigh. Most new teams or teams with new management are extremely dodgy right now. Even GreenEdge went and got the doctors from the AIS that, as is well documented, spent the past two decades doping youth athletes


Again, I haven't looked that hard but how well documented is it actually? And how the hell do you find all this stuff out?
 
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issoisso wrote:
Oh they weren't all that dodgy betwee 2005 and 2011. But with the current management it doesn't get much dodgier.

Sigh. Most new teams or teams with new management are extremely dodgy right now. Even GreenEdge went and got the doctors from the AIS that, as is well documented, spent the past two decades doping youth athletes


Do you have any links on that?
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Please assume I am joking unless otherwise stated
 
TheManxMissile
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
And how the hell do you find all this stuff out?


we all know its issoisso thats supplying the EPO etc...
Edited by TheManxMissile on 28-08-2012 21:07
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issoisso
They were fired and it was revealed this was the reason. (EDIT: Fired from the AIS) Then the shitstorm started, including several former AIS "alumni" admitting it was pretty widespread.

I wasn't paying much attention to cycling at the start of the season, so I'm not informed enough on that subject to talk at length about it, but I remember the topics on the cyclingnews forum were pretty extensive so I'd recommend shuffling through that. In fact that's probably what I'll end up doing one of these days.

Search that forum for the name "Jobie Dajka" and go from there.
Edited by issoisso on 28-08-2012 21:19
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
 
RedDisciple
Contador will be in red tomorow.

'nuff said.
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issoisso
RedDisciple wrote:
Contador will be in red tomorow.

'nuff said.


He's promised he'll attack solo 40 km from the finish so look out Pfft
Also, he says he's going to try to win the Tour of Beijing.

A glimmer of excitement for that horrendously boring race nobody except the UCI cares about?
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
 
wackojackohighcliffe
issoisso wrote:
They were fired and it was revealed this was the reason. (EDIT: Fired from the AIS) Then the shitstorm started, including several former AIS "alumni" admitting it was pretty widespread.

I wasn't paying much attention to cycling at the start of the season, so I'm not informed enough on that subject to talk at length about it, but I remember the topics on the cyclingnews forum were pretty extensive so I'd recommend shuffling through that. In fact that's probably what I'll end up doing one of these days.

Search that forum for the name "Jobie Dajka" and go from there.


Cheers for that. Equine Growth Hormone sounds sketchy - is it just for people who can't afford HGH? Pfft
 
Movistar
If anyone is doping during the Vuelta it is clearly Valverde I mean lets be real people.


 
valverde321
Movistar wrote:
If anyone is doping during the Vuelta it is clearly Valverde I mean lets be real people.




Or hes never doped in his life, and he's a always been this good on sheer talent Pfft


Seriously though, if he did dope before, I'd like to believe he's come back clean.
 
Aquarius
Extremely doubtful. What he achieved during this year's TDF was beyond "normal". And though I don't have figures, the same probably goes for these first stages.
He, like Contador, probably never felt any guilt because cycling goes with doping in their minds. They can't conceive it another way...
 
Avin Wargunnson
We all saw how he won that stage, only better riders were Froome and Wiggins that day...and that says a lot.Pfft
I'll be back
 
aymen
https://video.euro...ideo.shtml
for who says that contador is not best friend with armstrong
 
Schleck96
aymen wrote:
https://video.euro...ideo.shtml
for who says that contador is not best friend with armstrong


I was about to say something about that. In 2009 Alberto said: "I never admired Lance Armstrong.". Now, Youth Idol -> Armstrong. WTF??
 
Kirchen_75
Tony for the winnnnnnnnnnn
 
fickman
Froominator for the win today and red jersey???
 
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ste_18
How many seconds are now between Froome and Contador?
 
fjhoekie
7.
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Bookie
A bit of a gamble, but I think Froome will disappoint somewhat.
 
ste_18
fjhoekie wrote:
7.

Thanks...so the fight for the leader jersey in this TT will be a question of seconds...Very interestingGrin
 
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