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| Montolivo |
Posted on 21-10-2010 17:56
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CrueTrue wrote:
Montolivo wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Liquigas sues Torri. Pellizotti is cleared. Hmm.
Montolivo is a old grumpy guy whitout knowledge and should quit his job and get replaced by a guy with a better view on doping.
Arguments, please.
Very funny Crue! If you had followed his comments, you would have said the same thing. I can't stand people who say that each and everyone of the pro's in cycling is doped. He is damaging the image of the sport especially all of those who are clean. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 21-10-2010 18:00
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Montolivo wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Montolivo wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Liquigas sues Torri. Pellizotti is cleared. Hmm.
Montolivo is a old grumpy guy whitout knowledge and should quit his job and get replaced by a guy with a better view on doping.
Arguments, please.
Very funny Crue! If you had followed his comments, you would have said the same thing. I can't stand people who say that each and everyone of the pro's in cycling is doped. He is damaging the image of the sport especially all of those who are clean.
And I'm sure you know better than him about it. Why don't you ask for a job in the WADA, so you can enlighten the world with your knowledge? |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-10-2010 18:00
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Montolivo wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Montolivo wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Liquigas sues Torri. Pellizotti is cleared. Hmm.
Montolivo is a old grumpy guy whitout knowledge and should quit his job and get replaced by a guy with a better view on doping.
Arguments, please.
Very funny Crue! If you had followed his comments, you would have said the same thing. I can't stand people who say that each and everyone of the pro's in cycling is doped. He is damaging the image of the sport especially all of those who are clean. Then again he apologised the next day...
And, when it comes to dealing with doped cyclists, I think Torri has had a nice share of it, hasn't he ? |
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 21-10-2010 18:14
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Yes, he has. But why come with such comments at all? |
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 21-10-2010 18:17
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kumazan wrote:
Montolivo wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Montolivo wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Liquigas sues Torri. Pellizotti is cleared. Hmm.
Montolivo is a old grumpy guy whitout knowledge and should quit his job and get replaced by a guy with a better view on doping.
Arguments, please.
Very funny Crue! If you had followed his comments, you would have said the same thing. I can't stand people who say that each and everyone of the pro's in cycling is doped. He is damaging the image of the sport especially all of those who are clean.
And I'm sure you know better than him about it. Why don't you ask for a job in the WADA, so you can enlighten the world with your knowledge?
This forum can't stand opposite views i see? |
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| Kami |
Posted on 21-10-2010 18:18
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Neither can you? You clearly said, i can't stand people ...
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 21-10-2010 18:21
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Kami wrote:
Neither can you? You clearly said, i can't stand people ...
I can, when the opposite views is good and well, but comments of such as Torri i find very ridicilous. |
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| Kami |
Posted on 21-10-2010 18:23
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Montolivo wrote:
Kami wrote:
Neither can you? You clearly said, i can't stand people ...
I can, when the opposite views is good and well, but comments of such as Torri i find very ridicilous.
But like people already said here, he apologized the day after. It wasn't the wised thing to say though, but he probably has his knowledge about it.
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 21-10-2010 18:28
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Kami wrote:
Montolivo wrote:
Kami wrote:
Neither can you? You clearly said, i can't stand people ...
I can, when the opposite views is good and well, but comments of such as Torri i find very ridicilous.
But like people already said here, he apologized the day after. It wasn't the wised thing to say though, but he probably has his knowledge about it.
Yes, but i find the comments very weird and is there a reason for saying so? Did he get bored and had to? Because i have no clue and Johan Kaggestad (expert commentator in Norway) said he was dement because of his comments which i think is quite right. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 21-10-2010 18:59
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I can stand opposite views. Actually, being how I am, if I couldn't I'd have already exploded. Whay I can't stand are when people claim that their opinion is more valid than others', but without backing such claim with any facts.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-10-2010 19:22
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Montolivo wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Montolivo wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Liquigas sues Torri. Pellizotti is cleared. Hmm.
Montolivo is a old grumpy guy whitout knowledge and should quit his job and get replaced by a guy with a better view on doping.
Arguments, please.
Very funny Crue! If you had followed his comments, you would have said the same thing. I can't stand people who say that each and everyone of the pro's in cycling is doped. He is damaging the image of the sport especially all of those who are clean.
I am of course fully aware of what Torri said, but that doesn't mean that you can just claim something and not back it up with an argument. "Remove the guy" - why?
"No knowledge" - what makes you say that?
Debating requires arguments. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-10-2010 11:06
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Grappe says Contador's increase of "9 to 10%" in performance between the Dauphiné and the Tour is highly suspicious.
I have to agree with him: This kind of sudden form peak has been normal since EPO appeared, but was unheard of before it.
Still, it's curious that he's talking about Contador, instead of mentioning the most extreme case in cycling: Andy Schleck
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 22-10-2010 11:11
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issoisso wrote:
Grappe says Contador's increase of "9 to 10%" in performance between the Dauphiné and the Tour is highly suspicious.
I have to agree with him: This kind of sudden form peak has been normal since EPO appeared, but was unheard of before it.
Still, it's curious that he's talking about Contador, instead of mentioning the most extreme case in cycling: Andy Schleck
Because Contador was going flat out to win the Dauphine whereas Schleck's results in Suisse can easily be explained by him not giving a shit
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-10-2010 11:12
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mb2612 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Grappe says Contador's increase of "9 to 10%" in performance between the Dauphiné and the Tour is highly suspicious.
I have to agree with him: This kind of sudden form peak has been normal since EPO appeared, but was unheard of before it.
Still, it's curious that he's talking about Contador, instead of mentioning the most extreme case in cycling: Andy Schleck
Because Contador was going flat out to win the Dauphine whereas Schleck's results in Suisse can easily be explained by him not giving a shit
Schleck's entire career has been made of great form for 3-4 weeks per year and horrible form the rest of the year.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 22-10-2010 11:41
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issoisso wrote:
Still, it's curious that he's talking about Contador, instead of mentioning the most extreme case in cycling: Andy Schleck Contador got busted, Schleck not. With the current trend to sue people for mentioning obvious doping, etc. it's wiser from Grappe to mention Contador instead of Schleck.
I can't see any other explanation... |
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| itsmichael |
Posted on 22-10-2010 11:59
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40 european riders, were in Taiwan. Because there is the Taiwan cup.. Well they can go to home now, because the Taiwan Cup is cancelled due the typhoon,
Freire and Hunter were the big names there...
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 22-10-2010 14:59
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Sounds interesting:
https://www.cyclin...estigation
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 22-10-2010 15:06
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From the article
Among those arrested were 13 pharmacists, eight pharmacy assistants, nine veterinarians, a cattle-breeder, a pharmaceutical salesman, a bodybuilder and a cyclist.
no, gynaecologists? Bummer.
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Thor wears a live rattlesnake as a condom.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 22-10-2010 15:24
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schleck93 wrote:
From the article
Among those arrested were 13 pharmacists, eight pharmacy assistants, nine veterinarians, a cattle-breeder, a pharmaceutical salesman, a bodybuilder and a cyclist.
no, gynaecologists? Bummer.
Clen is for beginners. |
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 22-10-2010 17:38
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Clen is for beginners.
So you call Contador a "beginner"?
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