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Café Pedro 2: Revenge of the Portuguese
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| cio93 |
Posted on 09-04-2010 19:31
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Simply disgusting. |
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| Pazflor |
Posted on 10-04-2010 08:41
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Don't know if this is the place to post it, but whatever
Someone knows about a free Excel program that I can see Exported results?
EDIT: Found one!
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| Shooting Star |
Posted on 10-04-2010 11:56
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Why is it disgusting? You may want to read up on the rules of engagement. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 10-04-2010 12:07
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It's not disgusting to kill civilians and laugh at it? |
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| p3druh |
Posted on 10-04-2010 12:20
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Shooting Star wrote:
Why is it disgusting? You may want to read up on the rules of engagement.
Are you serious? It's not disgusting to kill innocent civilians due to negligence and laugh at it? It's not disgusting to omit such an incident and, worst still, clearly lie about it and not even retract or give an explanation when such lie is uncovered?
Oh, yeah, a group of "laws" unilaterally made make it all ok 
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| Shooting Star |
Posted on 10-04-2010 12:57
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CrueTrue wrote:
It's not disgusting to kill civilians and laugh at it?
How were they supposed to know that those were civilians? Some of them were carrying AK47s. And from the helicopter's view point, what might have been a camera lens could easily be misconceived as an RPG. The van wasn't marked as a medical unit either. Under the rules of engagement, it's therefore not protected. So it's very easy to tell them that they were wrong in your safe confines, but it isn't so in a war zone where your and other people's lives are on the line. It can often be choice of "kill or be killed."
As for the soldiers joking around, there's not much to say really. I agree it sounds bad, but war isn't a game. Who knows, maybe it's a way of keeping your sanity. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 10-04-2010 13:17
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War's not a game, neither is it funny to take a life... any life (that includes opposition).
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 10-04-2010 13:54
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Shooting Star wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
It's not disgusting to kill civilians and laugh at it?
How were they supposed to know that those were civilians? Some of them were carrying AK47s. And from the helicopter's view point, what might have been a camera lens could easily be misconceived as an RPG. The van wasn't marked as a medical unit either. Under the rules of engagement, it's therefore not protected. So it's very easy to tell them that they were wrong in your safe confines, but it isn't so in a war zone where your and other people's lives are on the line. It can often be choice of "kill or be killed."
As for the soldiers joking around, there's not much to say really. I agree it sounds bad, but war isn't a game. Who knows, maybe it's a way of keeping your sanity.
https://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs...ement.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwR8z6...wR8z6CXYao
https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36182383/
Enough said, really.
Did they pose a threat? Seemingly not.
Were they "positively identified"? Obviously not - none of them were displaying hostile intent.
According to your logic, you're free to shoot down everyone who walks around with something that may or may not look like a weapon without judging whether they are any threat, whether they have any hostile intent, etc. Instead of thinking, then shooting, it'd be shoot, then think.
There's a reason why the US Military didn't want this video to be released in the first place. And there's a reason why they haven't reacted after it was releaed.
Edit: There's no point in going into a discussion about the ROE, though. Neither you nor I are experts on the subject - what I'm reacting to is simply the fact that not only do they kill civilians, they also laugh at it, like it was a video game.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-04-2010 13:59
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Shooting Star's posts reminds me of the israeli exchange student I met in college.
"But our soldiers have to shoot the arabs. Just in case they might be carrying weapons"
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 10-04-2010 14:07
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But most of those people ddin't choose for the war to go to Iraq. Its their home and they are doing their regular job. I cant beleive those guys though. Can I shoot them? I hope he has a weapons so I have permision to shoot? Disgusting.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 10-04-2010 14:15
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Didn't watch the video. Don't wait to.
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RIP to the Polish president and various senior officials killed in a plane crash today. A sad story.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 10-04-2010 14:21
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doddy13 wrote:
RIP to the Polish president and various senior officials killed in a plane crash today. A sad story.
Yes very sad. Everyone died who was on the plane. It sounds like they crashed during landing in very bad conditions. but I may be wrong.
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| Shooting Star |
Posted on 10-04-2010 14:31
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CrueTrue wrote:
Shooting Star wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
It's not disgusting to kill civilians and laugh at it?
How were they supposed to know that those were civilians? Some of them were carrying AK47s. And from the helicopter's view point, what might have been a camera lens could easily be misconceived as an RPG. The van wasn't marked as a medical unit either. Under the rules of engagement, it's therefore not protected. So it's very easy to tell them that they were wrong in your safe confines, but it isn't so in a war zone where your and other people's lives are on the line. It can often be choice of "kill or be killed."
As for the soldiers joking around, there's not much to say really. I agree it sounds bad, but war isn't a game. Who knows, maybe it's a way of keeping your sanity.
https://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs...ement.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwR8z6...wR8z6CXYao
https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36182383/
Enough said, really.
Did they pose a threat? Seemingly not.
Were they "positively identified"? Obviously not - none of them were displaying hostile intent.
According to your logic, you're free to shoot down everyone who walks around with something that may or may not look like a weapon without judging whether they are any threat, whether they have any hostile intent, etc. Instead of thinking, then shooting, it'd be shoot, then think.
There's a reason why the US Military didn't want this video to be released in the first place. And there's a reason why they haven't reacted after it was releaed.
Edit: There's no point in going into a discussion about the ROE, though. Neither you nor I are experts on the subject - what I'm reacting to is simply the fact that not only do they kill civilians, they also laugh at it, like it was a video game.
https://i.imgur.co...
There were armed individuals in that group. Also, if you look closely at 2:44, you'll see the guy with the camera pointing it directly at the helicopter. Since they thought that might have been an RPG, it makes him and everyone around him possibly hostile targets.
Look, I'm not saying they couldn't have acted otherwise. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't be so quick to label them murderers without seeing it from both sides of the case.
As for laughing at it like it was a video game, I can't I say like it. But unless you have experienced war at first hand, it's difficult to say how they should feel and think. The people they are fighting are the same people that kill their fellow combatants. |
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| Shooting Star |
Posted on 10-04-2010 14:44
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issoisso wrote:
Shooting Star's posts reminds me of the israeli exchange student I met in college.
"But our soldiers have to shoot the arabs. Just in case they might be carrying weapons"
That's not what I'm saying at all. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 11-04-2010 15:40
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... doh!
I have another site - I had some problems with user permissions for admins, and when I tried to fix it, I accidentally deleted all members.
My backup is more than a year old :/ |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-04-2010 15:55
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CrueTrue wrote:
... doh!
I have another site - I had some problems with user permissions for admins, and when I tried to fix it, I accidentally deleted all members.
My backup is more than a year old :/
You have another site?
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
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| Crommy |
Posted on 11-04-2010 19:57
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I've just realised we can't edit our usernames anymore 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-04-2010 21:55
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I may be going to denmark this summer.
So I've been using a dictionary to compile a list of useful phrases.
I'm quite proud of myself.
So far I have this
Jeg vil gerne et glas vand behage
Hvor kan jeg finde en taxa?
Et hotelværelse, tak.
Det isbjerget var der ikke i går aftes
Jeg vil gerne se den nordlige pol. Hvilken retning?
Det er usædvanligt varmt i dag. Selv isen er varmere end normalt.
Jeg sværger den prostituerede var allerede død, da jeg fik her
Hvor meget for den ene med de store bryster?
Jeg har været bidt af en elg. Hvor er det hospital? Jeg skal modtage behandling på en gang. Min søster blev bidt for lang tid siden.
Edited by issoisso on 14-04-2010 21:56
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| Wyman |
Posted on 14-04-2010 22:16
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Just saw this advert on facebook and couldn't help laugh
https://www.epoboo.../home.html
I wonder if the pro's have tried it 
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 14-04-2010 22:19
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issoisso wrote:
I may be going to denmark this summer.
So I've been using a dictionary to compile a list of useful phrases.
I'm quite proud of myself.
So far I have this
Jeg vil gerne et glas vand behage
Hvor kan jeg finde en taxa?
Et hotelværelse, tak.
Det isbjerget var der ikke i går aftes
Jeg vil gerne se den nordlige pol. Hvilken retning?
Det er usædvanligt varmt i dag. Selv isen er varmere end normalt.
Jeg sværger den prostituerede var allerede død, da jeg fik her
Hvor meget for den ene med de store bryster?
Jeg har været bidt af en elg. Hvor er det hospital? Jeg skal modtage behandling på en gang. Min søster blev bidt for lang tid siden.
Awesome.
Although the first sentence sounds a little ... weird. Would you like to please a glass of water? |
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