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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-04-2008 23:45
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Smoothie wrote:
I'm getting very ill at the moment. Throat infection, and its having a strange affect on my breathing. Ive been unconscious twice in 2 days. I'm getting fairly worried.
For fuck's sake Matt get to a doctor NOW!!! 
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| rodda |
Posted on 12-04-2008 04:47
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issoisso wrote:
Smoothie wrote:
I'm getting very ill at the moment. Throat infection, and its having a strange affect on my breathing. Ive been unconscious twice in 2 days. I'm getting fairly worried.
For fuck's sake Matt get to a doctor NOW!!!
uh yeah might wanna do that 
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| Crommy |
Posted on 12-04-2008 09:40
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Going unconscious is most definitely something to panic about - see a doctor
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| andy |
Posted on 12-04-2008 14:57
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Yes, go to a doctor asap
Went riding anyway - if I get ill, I get ill, so be it. 33 miles at embarrassing mph  |
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 12-04-2008 15:17
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I dont think i need to go to the doctors anymore. My breathing is a bit better. Just got a really bad cold  Still at this point last year i had already had about 5 colds. This is my first  doesnt look like im going to beat my 23 that i had last year!! |
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| diouf |
Posted on 12-04-2008 17:03
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I almost never cycle, but i have played handball for a lot of years. Stopped last summer as the local team stopped. Most of the ones i played with stopped and i didn't want to go another team. Cause that will mean i should use quite a lot of time, and i prop. didn't have the qualities either.
But handball is really a great and fun sport. Too bad it isn't known in f.x. UK.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 12-04-2008 17:13
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Smoothie wrote:
I dont think i need to go to the doctors anymore. My breathing is a bit better. Just got a really bad cold Still at this point last year i had already had about 5 colds. This is my first doesnt look like im going to beat my 23 that i had last year!!
But a cold doesn't make you unconscious - seriously, a cold just doesn't do that
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 12-04-2008 17:51
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It was a cold, yesterday or the day before that |
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| andy |
Posted on 13-04-2008 20:48
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Went out after Paris-Roubaix, heavy legs on the 11-mile way there, struggling to keep conversation. Decided to race most of the way back to the finishing town sign...me and my friend are very easily matched - I beat him by 4 seconds in a 20km TT last year.
Luckily, somehow I was ok with this, had the mindset and perhaps the warm-up had worked. We were going fast (for me) though, taking turns at 35-38km/h... closer to the "finish", used my tactics. Let him lead for a couple of minutes, turned a corner then decided to put everything into a big-ring attack.
Got away, but couldn't really get on top of the bigger gear... for the next 2 miles, he was always there just down. I saw him behind about 5-15 seconds all the way back and knew it was sink or swim. Luckily managed to get on top of the gear and got it rolling at 38km/h and that was that, could ease down for a Cancellara-esque win. Boy was I elated, boy were we spent.
Hardest I've gone in a long time though - 20 miles at 19mph average too, my fastest this year....
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 14-04-2008 04:14
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I did a crit and a TT yesterday then a RR today which featured a Roubaix-esque section. The race bible said nothing about rough roads and that road was a bitch and a half. My teamates took 1st and second and maybe the overall. In the RR we held 27 miles an hour for 10 miles straight and neve dipped below 22. I kicked ass in the Cirt though and I was off the front withing the first few laps. I got caught but still finished in the top 4th of the race.
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| andy |
Posted on 21-04-2008 11:43
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No legs today, my mate was riding his new Trek and didn't I know it... 25-27mph most of the way, I could hardly come through and wasn't on top of the big gear. Accelerated 700m out but got AGONISING cramp pretty soon after... I knew I wasn't going to win anyway. He was riding like Armstrong today.
Advice for getting on top of the big gear? Just using it more during interval training?? |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 21-04-2008 13:00
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Do strength training as that will help being able to turn the big gears. Use the gym, or do some seated power climbs. Ie go up a climb at a hard pace, but turn a gear bigger than you usually do. Only advised really for cyclists who have got lots of winter miles in them first though, as doing specific power training can end up ruining your muscles if they aren't used to the strain.
As for me, i raced a lovely national B level race this weekend. Wait, not only one race, but 3! A brilliant stage race. Against Tom Southam to name but one pro...
Saturdays road stage was a right bitch. Had a 2 mile climb in it, so you can imagine the pace we went up that! Got dropped first lap with about 12 others, and we got back onto the peloton. Stuck with it lap 2, and lap 3, at which point we were told we were 10 minutes down and could stop whooo!
Yesterdays stage wasnt as hard, so the group stayed together, which, in turn, made it harder. We were averaging 27 mph for 3 laps of a 13 mile circuit. Yes, 27mph. Average. On a rolling circuit. The hardest part was actually the downhill as i couldn't pedal fast enough to keep up at times. I was spinning out in my top gear. And thats at like 140 cadence spinning out. I got dropped for good on the last lap, and rolled in absolutely blown probably 10 mins down. Was a good experience, but last night i was shagged. B)
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 21-04-2008 14:06
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Although I ride my bike every day, I have only recently become interested in trying to train for races. I live in an area (dave92 can attest to this, we live around 30 mi away from each other) that doesn't have any major climbs, with most uphill sections being 100-250 meter hills, that are steep, but don't give me much trouble anyway. The one long hill I can ride (the crescent trail), is around 5 miles long, but most of it is around 1% with a 1.75 mile section that gets up to around 2.5% As such, I don't have any places to do really hard training. Does anyone have any recommendations for ways to do hard training without many hills?
P.S. - I am sure that I could search this thread and find some answers, but it will be hard to find in the 180+ posts
EDIT: Also, for anyone who knows cycling around Washington D.C., I have problems getting too MacArthur Blvd. and Beach Drive, so despite those having nice hills I can't regularaly ride them.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 21-04-2008 14:37
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Hard training? Or hill training specifically?
Hard training, find a local club and go out on their chain gangs.
Do interval training. Ie 1 minute sprint, 1minute 30 second recovery, or interval/sprint for 30 seconds full out, recover until heart rate is at 60% max heart rate (max heart rate is 220 - age).
Personally i do chain gangs, races, and go out with a few mates and do hard sessions with them. The same as you'd do in a chain gang, but with just two of you it kills.
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| brun sweater |
Posted on 21-04-2008 14:42
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Indeed, hard training is more about heart rate than road gradient. |
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Posted on 21-04-2008 15:22
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Yesterday's trip- I had a punchture 5 mile(metric) before home....
https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/...arka-rundt
Edited by Halvor on 21-04-2008 15:22
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 21-04-2008 15:31
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rjc_43 wrote:
Hard training? Or hill training specifically?
Hard training, find a local club and go out on their chain gangs.
Do interval training. Ie 1 minute sprint, 1minute 30 second recovery, or interval/sprint for 30 seconds full out, recover until heart rate is at 60% max heart rate (max heart rate is 220 - age).
Personally i do chain gangs, races, and go out with a few mates and do hard sessions with them. The same as you'd do in a chain gang, but with just two of you it kills.
Thanks, but I don't have the time to join a bike club (most of riding is at indecent hours), so here is another question, which is better, short rides in the red, or longer riders in the green, with some sections ramped-up into yellow. |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 21-04-2008 15:51
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Often bike clubs dont require you to join them to train with them. I know that all UK bike clubs let people go along on their rides without needing to be in their club.
Having just mis-read your question, you can either ignore what i've written below, or just read if as general advice.
As to your question, if you are training for short races - crits, then sure once you've done your winter training of endurance pace, then short rides in the red are far more benificial than longer rides in the green with harder bits in them. But if, like myself, you are training for longer races (40 - 160km) then you definately need to do longer rides in the green, and then progress onto longer rides in the yellow (which hurt like a bitch).
Training should be specific training one month before racing season starts, and during the racing season. Pre season should be endurance training, usually lasting 3 months prior to racing season.
Please take the advice with a pinch of salt, as every person works differently and has different training advice and methods.
For short training rides (i presume you mean less than an hour/exactly an hour) thats hard i would put on a heart rate monitor for one. Warm up for 10 minutes, maybe find a stretch of road with a slight gradient on it thats about 1km or so long. Go as hard as you can up it before turning around and recovering back down it, or finding a loop so you have roughly 1 bit of interval work to 4 bits of recovery (ie 1 minute 30 seconds one kilometre effort to 6 minutes recovery) When you start finding it too easy, or you aren't feeling ill by the end of the 2nd sprint, shorten the recovery next work out. Basically start doing 5 intervals and increase the number by one a week, maybe doing the intervals twice in a week, or just the once if you're struggling for time.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 21-04-2008 15:52
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Thanks for the tips rjc |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 21-04-2008 15:56
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No problems, its an area im looking into for a career if my pro cycling one falls through... (I'm so funny its unreal!)
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