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| boork |
Posted on 17-05-2009 20:02
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Even if someone managed to reach 4 wins as a team i doubt it will be by 4 different people (team, siutsou, hagen, cavendish). Also there are some more stages that they should be able to compete for a win in.
Also the giro being far from over doesnt change that Team Columbia have been dominating it so far.
Stage 10 on tuesday looks very interesting. It is sad it isnt the dream stage it was at first but now it both got tough mountains and is very long. It will put new tests on the riders and i think other riders might be up front then what we saw in the shorter mountain stages we saw earlier.
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| ruben |
Posted on 17-05-2009 21:10
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As if this stage would be any more interesting if the riders raced?
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-05-2009 21:26
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boork wrote:
Even if someone managed to reach 4 wins as a team i doubt it will be by 4 different people (team, siutsou, hagen, cavendish). Also there are some more stages that they should be able to compete for a win in.
Also the giro being far from over doesnt change that Team Columbia have been dominating it so far.
Columbia and LPR have been dominating it so far
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Stage 10 on tuesday looks very interesting. It is sad it isnt the dream stage it was at first but now it both got tough mountains and is very long. It will put new tests on the riders and i think other riders might be up front then what we saw in the shorter mountain stages we saw earlier.
The previous one was pretty much the same length and tremendously harder. This one has the Montcenis which comes way too early, the Sestriere which is much less steep than any of the climbs ridden so far, and the Prá Martino which is the only real decider of the day.
The only surprise should be the final km which is a pretty steep uphill.
Most, if not all of the teams are going into the stage with their minds firmly set on hanging on and not attacking at all, just conserving energy for thursday.
The re-routing of the stage that was previously planned, effectively murdered the hardest stage.
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| mattiasgt |
Posted on 17-05-2009 21:39
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But had you expect a attack by so many GC-riders on stage 8? The tenth stage seem much more suited for an decisive attack than that stage.
The closeness to the TT can matter though..
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-05-2009 21:41
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mattiasgt wrote:
But had you expect a attack by so many GC-riders on stage 8?
Yup. I just missed the prediction of who would do it. I posted Simoni would be the one attacking.
mattiasgt wrote:The tenth stage seem much more suited for an decisive attack than that stage.
I'm not saying no one will try. I'm saying they'll be very conservative and gaps are unlikely.
And most of them have admitted it.
And about Haedo....he finished with the GC contenders 
He's very lucky his contract runs for two more seasons after this one...
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Posted on 17-05-2009 21:45
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Ok, then I'm with you..
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| boork |
Posted on 17-05-2009 21:48
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The two stages with big mountains have been very short stages. Stage 7 and 8 were both pretty long (244km and 209km) but none of the climbs are nearly as tough as the ones facing them on tuesday. If the climb on stage 10 was so challenging after the long stage then i think we can see something simular to that only taken one step further cause of tougher clims and longer stage.
I hope someone will have gotten new strength after the day of rest and there might also be someone who isnt that great at TT that want to try to earn some time. Looking at what happened to Di Lucas helpers on stage 8 i would think someone will try to attack or in another way force up the tempo in the climbs. |
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| trueatfirstlight |
Posted on 18-05-2009 01:11
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What a pathetic stage...A dumb excuse of a protest..
Completely agree.
Leipheimer was also backing the protest apparently. Not that he would have had much of a choice otherwise.
The way it was presented here was to make it sound like all of the GC favorites approached the race director as a collective, which then prompted Di Luca to step in and assume the leadership role in the matter beforehand. Makes me wonder if Di Luca was directly involved in the protest, or if he simply thought it was his duty to address the riders' concerns as the maglia rosa.
A good sprint by Cav
The sprint in general:
Oh well. Let him celebrate his victory. Columbia's having one hell of a tour.
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| BenBarnes |
Posted on 18-05-2009 02:38
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I bet on Soler for the stage. Far enough down on GC that he might get a little big of a leash, and I'm guessing he's not planning on a big TT. Long shot, but we'll see  |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 18-05-2009 10:34
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BenBarnes wrote:
I bet on Soler for the stage. Far enough down on GC that he might get a little big of a leash, and I'm guessing he's not planning on a big TT. Long shot, but we'll see
Agree. It would in no way be surprising to see him do something spectacular on this stage. Only downside is that it ends (almost) flat. |
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Posted on 18-05-2009 10:50
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CrueTrue wrote:
BenBarnes wrote:
I bet on Soler for the stage. Far enough down on GC that he might get a little big of a leash, and I'm guessing he's not planning on a big TT. Long shot, but we'll see
Agree. It would in no way be surprising to see him do something spectacular on this stage. Only downside is that it ends (almost) flat.
As did the stage he won in the tour,
well not technically, but he lost a lot of time on the 1 km climb to the finish after holding the chasers well on the flat
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| issoisso |
Posted on 18-05-2009 12:20
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Savoldelli, the master bike handler says the TT on thursday will be quite a lot about bike handling skills.
Adds that because of that, Leipheimer should disappoint. Comments that Levi is reputed in the peloton for being a guy you don't want to be behind during a descent - horrible bike handler, lets gaps open all the time by losing the wheel of whoever he's chasing..
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| blueye |
Posted on 18-05-2009 14:01
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issoisso wrote:
Savoldelli, the master bike handler says the TT on thursday will be quite a lot about bike handling skills.
Adds that because of that, Leipheimer should disappoint. Comments that Levi is reputed in the peloton for being a guy you don't want to be behind during a descent - horrible bike handler, lets gaps open all the time by losing the wheel of whoever he's chasing..
so apparently he won't make a big difference at the finish? 'cause i'm a bit confuse. i only saw levi on flat TT until now. |
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Posted on 18-05-2009 14:09
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issoisso wrote:
Savoldelli, the master bike handler says the TT on thursday will be quite a lot about bike handling skills.
Adds that because of that, Leipheimer should disappoint. Comments that Levi is reputed in the peloton for being a guy you don't want to be behind during a descent - horrible bike handler, lets gaps open all the time by losing the wheel of whoever he's chasing..
That´s not true. Why do you keep writing stupid rumors? Just one month ago I did a training ride with him and I assure you, you'd like to have his biking skills and, of course, is not known in the peloton for being an "horrible bike handler". He is no Danny MacAskill, though...
Leipheimer isn´t a Samuel Sanchez, or a Savoldelli, but he is far of being a bad descender. Bad descenders are guys like Gesink and Menchov... |
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| Biathlon |
Posted on 18-05-2009 14:16
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blueye wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Savoldelli, the master bike handler says the TT on thursday will be quite a lot about bike handling skills.
Adds that because of that, Leipheimer should disappoint. Comments that Levi is reputed in the peloton for being a guy you don't want to be behind during a descent - horrible bike handler, lets gaps open all the time by losing the wheel of whoever he's chasing..
so apparently he won't make a big difference at the finish? 'cause i'm a bit confuse. i only saw levi on flat TT until now.
Last years Vuelta TT.. Levi won that one. It was flat in the start but the last part of the race was Mount.
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| Dan_Grr |
Posted on 18-05-2009 16:54
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You did a training ride with Levi? The jeans? |
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| boork |
Posted on 18-05-2009 17:09
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I dont see how zemaria doing a training ride change any fact about Levi being a good or bad handler of the bike. It would really just show if he is better or worse then zemaria. If they tried any tricky roads that is.
We are still to see if the TT is tricky enough to cause him problems. I havent heard anything about it so far. I believe Lövqvist has a good technique so hopefully it will favour him to get the pink jersey. If he is still at the top after tuesday anyway. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 18-05-2009 17:29
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zemaria wrote:
That´s not true. Why do you keep writing stupid rumors? Just one month ago I did a training ride with him and I assure you, you'd like to have his biking skills and, of course, is not known in the peloton for being an "horrible bike handler". He is no Danny MacAskill, though...
Leipheimer isn´t a Samuel Sanchez, or a Savoldelli, but he is far of being a bad descender. Bad descenders are guys like Gesink and Menchov...
So because you don't like what Savoldelli's said, you're blaming me?
Right. That makes sense
As for "I did a training ride with him", I didn't know Leipheimer came to Porto to ride with random people 
Liar, liar...
Edited by issoisso on 18-05-2009 17:31
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Posted on 18-05-2009 17:35
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Ze Maria is a Portuguese name. Ze is the abbreviation of Jose. It's like Jose Mary in English. Pretty Pimba.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 18-05-2009 17:40
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Dan_Grr wrote:
Ze Maria is a Portuguese name. Ze is the abbreviation of Jose. It's like Jose Mary in English. Pretty Pimba.
Unless you're Sergio Paulinho, in which case you must know what you're talking about.
He's from Porto and using a Novis connection....
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