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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:45
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knockout wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Thank for the answers both, actually making me think a little bit which i was not expecting... Also:
Also, this alliance helped me to keep the control postmerge by controlling Jesleyh and Froomedog
Second best comment of the entire Season... behind "Tom Boonen"...
Did you forgot my:
I thought this game is about who is the strongest participant and not the one with the best alliances ...
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@Jakstar Yeah I know and that was the reason why I said that we had you under our control. You did not had any choice.
But with Jseadog having the most impact on you i meant that let's say we would have took you into the final four so let's say: Me, You, Dippo and Jseadog (which was the final four jseadog wanted i think) and then Jseadog would have gotten immunity then you would have voted out the guy that Jseadog would have told you (whoever it would have been) and not Dippo what i would have told you. It was all about limitting the risks for me when voting you out instead of Jesl 
I see where your coming from. But no offence to Dippo, I would have voted out Dippo if it came down to the final 4 and tribal council.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:46
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Let's save it for Reunion boys
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| knockout |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:51
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Hey I just wanted to explain my answer on the jury question. I just had the feeling that i did not expressed me well again just like the
Also, this alliance helped me to keep the control postmerge by controlling Jesleyh and Froomedog
I am just not that good in writing those texts (and especially not in english  )
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 22-01-2014 22:57
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Sorry Manx  just kidding. I'll try save it for the reunion
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 22-01-2014 23:31
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I would just like to say we are getting great questions so far, and we have 3 active finalist answering all of the questions to the best of their abilities.
I couldn't have asked for a better Finale (so far).
Ending the season with a bang. Keep it up. 
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 23-01-2014 06:43
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Jesleyh still to answer? I have my questions ready. 
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 23-01-2014 08:16
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Dippo still to answer as well, right?
Anyway, my answers:
Q1 - At what point did you think you had your final placed secured and why?
Yeah. toughie. I thought I had it secured around the auction challenge, when we were 4-2(or so). I knew that my alliances were good and therefore thought that I could get in the final if I went on tactically. After grabbing immunity in the puzzle challenge, I didn't pay all attention I guess or so, but I let myself caught off-guard(or something, I'm sitll not sure how I missed it) and Froomey was out. Then, just before the next tribal council, I was pretty sure of getting in the final again, after Dippo & Knockout both being on my side, even got knockout almost to give me his immunity just-in-case, but couldn't get that far of course
Q2 - How much control did you think you had on the other contestants during the game (in terms of voting choices)?
Oh, this is my favourite question, thank you for asking, I forgot this in my speech.
I really had much control. I expected knockout to answer something similair to what I did, but this was really one of my strong points.
Especially in the team part of the game. It went like this, at least I think it does:
First, I take a look at the other participants who can be voted out. Then, I decide who I want out.
Then, I sent tons of PMs to tons of persons with who I want out. Sometimes they directly agreed, sometimes I had to convince them, but that always worked. I don't believe Knockout already voted each time before I contacted him. Since most of the time, I contacted him before the council was open, and he always voted exactly the same as I did, so I just don't buy that.
Anyway, I had influence on 6 votes(including mine) in the team challenges.
The ones I really managed to manipulate votes of, sometimes with consultation:
Brewers, Froomedog, Knockout.
I contacted Dippo a few times as well, we made a pact that we didn't vote for each other, and iirc, I sent him a PM who to vote for once or twice, but that was when it got closer.
And Jseadog asked me who he should vote for very often as well, I feel like I had a lot of influence on his votes at first as well.
Anyway, when it got to individual, it all got a bit harder.
I always tried to consult a majority of players available. I have talked with Dippo, Jseadog(especially at the first individual rounds), Knockout & Froomedog about voting. Of course it took a lot of convincing most of the time. But in the end, there wasn't a lot of disagreement.
At the end, I think I had a lot of influence on the final as well. If I hadn't sent tons of PMs to Dippo & Knockout at the end, I think Jak or Jseadog would've made the final, but I believe I changed their minds.
I really cannot remember cases(My PM-box can't either) where someone asked me to vote for a certain person, it was always the reverse
So, a lot of control, yeah.
Edited by Jesleyh on 23-01-2014 08:17
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| knockout |
Posted on 23-01-2014 08:38
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even got knockout almost to give me his immunity just-in-case, but couldn't get that far of course
Haha. This is awesome. 
But okay i wait till reunion to explain this
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 23-01-2014 08:47
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Yeah, you probably did that to gain my trust, whatever
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| knockout |
Posted on 23-01-2014 12:32
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I would want to Add that iit was at the immunity challenge before the final redemption island duel where I used the free pass and that I only talked about the immunity necklace i perhaps could get and not about the (hidden) immunity idol.
You may have forgot to say that
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 23-01-2014 13:09
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Well, thought the moment was obvious, I said after Froome was voted out.
So didn't forget to say anything there.
And necklace is true. I must say that I really mixed it up there. Check your old PMs, I actually was confused about it there as well...
Though I didn't even use the word idol in my post, so I'm not even sure what you are actually trying to say?
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| knockout |
Posted on 23-01-2014 13:20
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Jesleyh wrote:
Well, thought the moment was obvious, I said after Froome was voted out.
So didn't forget to say anything there.
And necklace is true. I must say that I really mixed it up there. Check your old PMs, I actually was confused about it there as well...
Though I didn't even use the word idol in my post, so I'm not even sure what you are actually trying to say?
That this was a very bad example of manipulating/controlling me. Iirc it was also me that presented this idea but let's don't start a long discussion about it because I am sure we will not agree here I guess.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 23-01-2014 13:23
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Guys, you two are making me wonder if it is not better to vote for someone who is able not to quarrel like little girls do.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 23-01-2014 13:25
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Guys, you two are making me wonder if it is not better to vote for someone who is able not to quarrel like little girls do.
Staying under the radar really does work
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 23-01-2014 13:26
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Or i am just trolling, while i am decided already.
Just kidding,everybody still has the chance for my vote...
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| knockout |
Posted on 23-01-2014 13:39
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No need to stay under the radar anymore
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 23-01-2014 13:40
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Okay, if you think so, allright. Wasn't even meant as example for manipulating, but just as example that I had the feeling that I had you guys on my side.
I told you that those questions would lead to arguing
I don't want to argue at all...
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| Dippofix |
Posted on 23-01-2014 15:00
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Q1 - At what point did you think you had your final placed secured and why?
The point it actually dawned on me that i was in the final was literally just after i sent off the answers for the last immunity challenge. I knew they'd have to be right, and that i'd be in the final then. Before that ihad had the feeling that i was pretty much in the final for a long time, pretty much since it became obvious the tinkoff alliance was working out, but i always had that nagging "what if?" feeling at the back of my head, so i was always looking at possibilieties of how i might be voted off, and how to prevent them. I knew the only scenario i would be in real trouble was a me-knockout-Jseadog-Jakstar final four, with Jseadog having immunity. I knew Jak would do whatever Jseadog would say, because he owed him a lot, and i knew knockout was closer to Jseadog, so i was quite sure they'd target me. That's why i happily accepted as knockout and Jesleyh pm'd me about voting Jak off.
Q2 - How much control did you think you had on the other contestants during the game (in terms of voting choices)?
This is a tricky question. I never really pm'd anybody trying to convince him of voting somebody specific off, except for the time i pm'd Jakstar about Marco. This is where the fact that i wasn't in "tons" of alliances, and always knew which alliance was my priority alliance, helped me a lot. I knew exactly i didn't want knockout or jseadog to get voted off to soon, and to a lesser extent also the other tinkoffs, but the rest wasn't really that important to me. I just decided in cooperation with my allies who was the biggest danger, who would be using immunity, who had immunity, and so on, and that's who we voted off. I didn't see it as necessity to pm loads of people about votes, because i didn't want to seem like the hidden puppet master who decides all the votes, because i believed that would make people vote me off sooner. I also sometimes accepted a bit earlier than i thought i should've, just to give some of my allies the sense that they could trust me, that i wouldn't backstab them.
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 23-01-2014 15:21
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Okay first off, congrats to you three, especially Jesleyh for making it this far again! I am going to be brutally honest in the post, and I think thats what should be done.
Questions are for all 3!
1. Name some reasons why you think you don't deserve to be in the finals.
2. If you had to select one the other 2 to win, who would it be and why? You cant pick yourself.
Jesleyh: You were able to play the whole game without breaking a promise and that is what I call good game play, and I think that will pay off for you again.
knockout: Our alliance was something that I think carried us both through the game, especially me because I was voted out once but came back in. However, You broke a promise, which was when the game first started that said:
"Let's make a deal for this game, I don't vote for you and you don't vote for me?"
I believed you, and you did not hold your end of the deal, regardless if you thought I would be able to beat you in the end or not.
Dippofix: You were drug into the final, plain and simple. Not saying you don't deserve it, but you don't. Lying low is a good strategy in this game, and it always happens in a game like this. Breaking away from Jesleyh and Froome to come with us was a wise decision, and I think that is how you got to the finals.
To summarize, I think that all of you played a unique game to get here. I am not gloating, but they usually give away that "$25,000" prize for best player overall, and I think I deserve that for the time I put into this game. Regardless, its just a game, and I will be seeking revenge in the NFL Prediction game . I have to win something this year after all!
Congrats again!
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 23-01-2014 15:28
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1. Name some reasons why you think you don't deserve to be in the finals.
This question won't give the best answer possible for everyone I fear(which makes sense of course, why would you burn yourself down ), but okay, here we go:
- There were people who won more individual challenges(including you)
- I got caught off-guard with the Froomedog thing, which I was really shocked about
- I was gone 2 or 3 days in a key part of the game. I was lucky that a few guys were okay with saving me I think.
2. If you had to select one the other 2 to win, who would it be and why? You cant pick yourself.
I think that'd be Knockout. His thinking wasn't that bad and he spent a lot of time on the challenges. We were collaborating closely for a while, and I think Knockout was a good participant overall, who deserves the win. Minus would be that Knockout didn't win any challenge, but for me,he deserves it better than Dippofix(Nothing bad against you, you were a good participant, but I have to choose here Dippo ).
He just spent more time into Survivor than Dippo.
Edited by Jesleyh on 23-01-2014 15:29
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