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General Career Discussion 2013
Otti
Hi,
somebody know what the value_i_proposition in dyn_sponsor_research is all about?
The range of the value is from 1 to 4.
Is this the amount of money of this sponsors offer?
 
nielsboy1998
Just finished the first season (2014) of my carreer! First, here are the results of some big races:

RaceWinner
Tour down UnderStephen Cummings
Tour of QatarMarcel Kittel
Tour of OmanRobert Gesink
Omloop het NieuwsbladFabian Cancellara
Kuurne-Bruxells-KuurneTom Boonen
Strade BianchiJohnny Hoogerland
Paris-NiceVincenzo Nibali
Tirreno-AndrianticoPeter Velits
Dwars door VlaanderenJürgen Roelandts
Milano-San RemoJanez Brajkovic
Volta a CatalunyaRobert Gesink
Criterium InternationalNairo Quintana
E3 HarelbekePeter Sagan
Gent-WevegelmFabian Cancellara
Ronde van VlaanderenFabian Cancellara
Vuelta al Pais VascoRobert Gesink
ScheldeprijsMarcel Kittel
Paris-RoubaixFabian Cancellara
Brabantse PijlPhillipe Gilbert
Amstel Gold RacePeter Sagan
Giro del TrentinoCadel Evans
La Fleche WallonneFränk Schleck
Liege-Bastogne-LiegeWout Poels
Tour de RomandieChris Froome
4 Jours de DunqerkeMichal Kwiatkowski
Giro di ItaliaRobert Gesink
Tour of CalifornianPeter Velits
Criterium du DauphineChris Froome
Tour de SuisseJoaquim Rodriguez
Tour de FranceAndy Schleck
Tour de PolongePeter Sagan
Classica la SebastianJeremy Roy
Vuelta a BurgosPeter Vakoc
Eneco TourPeter Sagan
Vuelta a EspanaChris Froome
Vattenfall CyclassicsRohan Dennis
GP Ouest France - PlouayCaleb Ewan
Brussels Cycling ClassicMichal Golas
GP de QuebecEdvald Boasson Hagen
GP de MontrealPhillipe Gilbert
Tour of BrittainMichael Morkov
Word Championships ITTLars Boom
Word Championships RRThomas Voeckler
Milano-TorinoJoaquim Rodriguez
Il LombardiaRui Costa
Giro Dell'EmiliaDario Cataldo
Tour of BeijingDaniel Martin
Paris-ToursMarcel Kittel
Chrono des NationsTaylor Phinney


I call this: The year of the suprises! It begin in T-A were Peter Velits is very good and wins the round. Then in Milano-San Remo at the hilly parcours, Janez Brajkovic wins a sprint of Christophe Riblon. The real toppers, came to late: Peter Sagan finished thirth before Cancellara and Stybar. In Liege-Bastonge-Liege was the weirdest result I have saw this season. Wout Poels won the race! Because as CT-team I haven't raced the race, so I think he was part of a breakaway. In the Vattenfall Cyclassics, came the sprinters to late. Dennis wins from Voigt in the breakaway. Viviani finshed thirth.

GT's:
Giro Di Italia:
1. Robert Gesink
2. Bauke Mollema
3. Jurgen van den Broeck
Sprint: Nacer Bouhanni
KoM: Enrico Battagalin
-25: Rafal Majka

This was the weakest peloton I have ever saw of the giro! For the GC, there were only Gesink, Mollema, Van den Broeck, Moreno, and Majka. And for the sprint were only Bouhanni, and Van Hummel the riders with a sprint stat above the 77. Moreno was leading the GC, but he has given up in stage 14. Then Mollema came in the lead. At number 2 was Majka, 3 Van den Broeck and 4 Gesink. But Gesink came back fast! At stage 19 was it. 1. Mollema, 2. Gesink, 3. Van den Broeck and 4. Majka. In the last mountain stage, Gesink and Mollema finished at the same time. But Gesink gets 10 boni seconds and comes in the lead! And so he won the Giro, with 7 seconds at Mollema!

Tour de France:
1. Andy Schleck
2. Rui Costa
3. Andrew Talansky
Sprint: Marcel Kittel
KoM: Sylvain Chavanel
-25: Thibaut Pinot

This Tour has a strong peloton. Nibali, Froome, and Contador were the favorites. But in stage 5, there came cobbles... A lot happend. Cancellara won the stage before Vanmarcke and Cancellara get the leaderyersey. Schleck, Costa, Talansky, and Rodriguez finished at 4min. A groop with Pinot, Evans and Van Garderen at 7min. But a group with Nibali, Froome and Contador finished at 13min.!!! Cancellara hold the leader yersey until stage 18. Then Costa taked the yersey. But in the next day he loses a minute at Schleck. And the next day again a minute. So won Schleck Le Tour with 1'30".

Vuelta a Espana
1. Chris Froome
2. Joaquim Rodriguez
3. Janez Brajkovic
Sprint: Chris Froome
KoM: Ignatas Konovalovas
-25: Peter Sagan

The vuelta was very excited! Three riders dominated the mountain stages. But because Froome has a ride a better TT, and Brajkovic lost some time in the last stages, has Chris Froome wun his second GT!

WC's:
RR:
1. Thomas Voeckler
2. Joaquim Rodriguez
3. Peter Velits

This was a very excited race! I played for Canada with Hesjedal, Veilleux, and Roth in my team. At 30km before the finish Voeckler atackted and get a 1min. gap at the peloton. Rodriguez atacked at 10km before the finish line and ride fast to the finish line. But he came not by Voeckler. Voeckler wun with 15" before Rodriguez. Peter Velits, who joined the atack of Voeckler but was dropped finished 3th 20" before Hesjedal. Sagan finsihed 5th and won the bunch sprint, at 1'30" of Voeckler.

ITT:
1. Lars Boom
2. Bradley Wiggins
3. Lieuwe Westra

I started the TT with Tuft and Veilleux. My goal was a top ten place. I succeed. Tuft finished 6th and Veilleux 9th. But when the big riders came it was a suprisely result. Tony Martin and Cancellara weren't in forme and finshed 21th and 30th. Westra has a really good day, and set the best time. Then some riders later Wiggins was with 10" faster. But Boom won with 30" before Wiggins.

My team was a canadian based team at the CT level. Veilleux, Tuft, Fenn, Haga and Parisien are the strongest riders. I has won 15 races (lvl: Extreme) and I have reached promotion to the PCT. My importanst new riders were: Lieuwe Westra as teamleader, the Albanian rider Zhupa for the NC-shirt and he is a nice TT'er (76 in TT), Jos van Emden also for TT's. And a Australian, Canadian, German, Polish and Luxemburgian talent. The australian talent is the most talented! He has 75 in sprint! And has a potetion to reach 83! The Polish rider has 67 in MO but can reach the 80 in MO. Now, it's time to race at PCT level Grin
Always see the bright Side of life!
 
Jesleyh
You won 15 races? Good season then, especially on extreme.

Though I still don't understand why you gave Gesink, Schleck, probably Boom(?), and a few others, such undeserved high stats. Wink
Edited by Jesleyh on 07-03-2014 15:30
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nielsboy1998
The most wins are from breakaway's (7, I thought) Pfft Fenn has won 3 real sprints, and I has won the Valley of the Sun Stage Racie because Veilleux has won the ITT Grin. And the other 3 wins: A mountain stage with Haga whoe has a very good day. And the national championship of Candaian RR and TT Pfft

Gesink and Schleck were at the start of the season 80 in MO (Froome, Rodriguez, Nibali are 83). And Boom was at the start 80 in TT (Martin and Wiggins 83) and has growed to 82 Wink. But some riders, I gave them those stats because I like them Pfft
Always see the bright Side of life!
 
The Rider
@ nielsboy - I would have liked to have seen that Milan San Remo. Wink

Quick update from the custom tour I'm doing using the same route as TOTC4

GC Rankings after Stage 5:

1Maarten TjallingiiRabobank19h12'43
2Ian StannardLipton Ice Tea+ 19
3Matthew HaymanPetro China+ 2'12
4Maxim IglinskiyIran Khodro+ 2'26
5Andy SchleckCSC+ 4'34
6Lars Ytting BakCSC+ 4'35
7Bradley WigginsBarclays+ 5'20
8Thomas VoecklerCredit Agricole+ 5'31
9Tom BoonenProvamel+ 7'18
10Leonardo DuqueAmerica Movil+ 8'00

Spoiler
11Manuel QuinziatoCoca Cola+ 9'05
12Matthieu LadagnousLook - Poweo+ 9'18
13Juan Antonio FlechaRabobank+ 9'32
14Fabian CancellaraUnicefs.t.
15Grégory RastUnicef+ 9'46
16Geraint ThomasBarclays+ 9'47
17Tomas VaitkusAer Lingus+ 9'56
18Matteo TosattoSan Pellegrino+ 10'10
19Lieuwe WestraPetro China+ 10'27
20Alejandro ValverdeFestina+ 12'13
21Xavier FlorencioFestinas.t.
22Thor HushovdCSC+ 12'22
23Samuel SánchezSahin Sucuklari+ 12'27
24Jurgen Van den BroeckProvamel+ 12'38
25David MillarBarclays+ 12'40
26Vincenzo NibaliGazzetta dello Sport+ 12'53
27Tyler FarrarRadioshack+ 13'26
28Staf ScheirlinckxProvamel+ 13'33
29Fränk SchleckCSC+ 13'37
30Thomas LöfkvistCSC+ 13'55
31Chris HornerRadioshack+ 14'23
32Johnny HoogerlandRabobank+ 14'25
33Michael RogersANZ+ 14'37
34Rui CostaCoca Cola+ 14'54
35Roberto FerrariSan Pellegrino+ 15'08
36Tejay Van GarderenRadioshack+ 15'19
37Sylvain ChavanelCredit Agricole+ 15'45
38Nicki SørensenCSC+ 15'55
39Pierre RollandLook - Poweo+ 16'26
40Wout PoelsRabobanks.t.
41Luis León SánchezRadioshack+ 16'50
42Richie PorteCoca Cola+ 16'55
43Michele ScarponiLipton Ice Tea+ 17'01
44Jens VoigtProvamel+ 17'05
45Borut BožicSahin Sucuklari+ 17'11
46Nicolas RocheAer Lingus+ 17'16
47Ignatas KonovalovasSahin Sucuklari+ 17'24
48Adam HansenANZ+ 17'34
49Jonathan Tiernan-LockeLipton Ice Tea+ 17'57
50Kasper KlostergaardCSC+ 18'06
51Svein TuftCoca Cola+ 18'35
52Dimitriy MuravyevIran Khodro+ 19'40
53Hayden RoulstonANZ+ 21'00
54René MandriEstonia+ 21'09
55Jakob FuglsangCSC+ 21'52
56Gert SteegmansProvamel+ 21'53
57Matti BreschelCSC+ 22'13
58Dmitriy GruzdevPetro China+ 22'22
59Michael AlbasiniUnicef+ 22'23
60Stefano GarzelliGazzetta dello Sport+ 22'26
61Francesco RedaGazzetta dello Sports.t.
62David ZabriskieCoca Cola+ 22'27
63Alessandro PetacchiSan Pellegrino+ 22'31
64Stefan SchumacherGerolsteiner+ 22'47
65Andreas KlödenGerolsteiners.t.
66Linus GerdemannGerolsteiner+ 23'03
67Pierrick FédrigoCredit Agricole+ 23'05
68Andriy GrivkoIran Khodro+ 23'19
69Tom DanielsonCoca Cola+ 23'29
70Ben SwiftLipton Ice Tea+ 23'42
71Nikolas MaesProvamel+ 24'03
72Juan José HaedoPetro China+ 24'09
73Danny PateCoca Cola+ 24'17
74John GadretLook - Poweo+ 24'23
75Davide RebellinSahin Sucuklari+ 24'28
76Christian KneesGerolsteiner+ 24'33
77Geoffroy LequatreLook - Poweo+ 24'40
78Daniel MartinAer Lingus+ 24'49
79Alexandr KolobnevPetro China+ 24'50
80Paolo TiralongoSan Pellegrino+ 25'01
81Mark RenshawRabobank+ 25'04
82Yaroslav PopovychRadioshack+ 25'21
83Murilo FischerBonsucro+ 26'29
84Martijn MaaskantRabobank+ 26'44
85Tom ZirbelRadioshack+ 27'02
86Stef ClementRabobank+ 27'04
87Russell DowningAer Lingus+ 27'16
88Marcel SiebergGerolsteiner+ 27'18
89Christophe RiblonLook - Poweo+ 27'22
90Franco PellizottiGazzetta dello Sport+ 27'32
91Rein TaaramäeEstonia+ 27'54
92Tony MartinGerolsteiner+ 28'12
93Luke DurbridgeANZ+ 28'42
94Mart OjaveeEstonia+ 28'45
95Juan José CoboSahin Sucuklari+ 28'59
96Ghader MizbaniIran Khodros.t.
97Sébastien HinaultCredit Agricole+ 29'00
98Enrico RossiGazzetta dello Sport+ 29'10
99Ioannis TamouridisFestina+ 29'40
100Peter KennaughBarclays+ 29'43
101Vasil KiryienkaPetro China+ 29'52
102Sandy CasarLook - Poweos.t.
103Christophe KernLook - Poweo+ 30'12
104Samuel DumoulinLook - Poweo+ 30'15
105Jesús HernándezRadioshack+ 30'16
106Romain FeilluCredit Agricole+ 30'38
107Massimo CodolGazzetta dello Sport+ 30'43
108Mikhail IgnatievUnicef+ 30'44
109Anthony GeslinCredit Agricole+ 30'45
110Dan CravenLipton Ice Tea+ 30'47
111Fabio FellineSan Pellegrino+ 30'48
112Adriano MaloriSan Pellegrinos.t.
113Laurens Ten DamRabobank+ 30'53
114Jack BauerANZ+ 30'56
115Danilo HondoSan Pellegrino+ 31'01
116Tanel KangertEstonia+ 31'02
117Juan Manuel GárateRabobank+ 31'13
118Fabian WegmannGerolsteiner+ 31'49
119Dominique CornuProvamel+ 32'23
120Klaas LodewyckProvamel+ 32'37
121Nicolas VogondyCredit Agricole+ 32'53
122Greg HendersonANZs.t.
123Julian DeanANZ+ 33'00
124Andrew FennBarclays+ 33'02
125Bernhard EiselCredit Agricole+ 33'04
126Robert WagnerGerolsteiner+ 33'08
127Marco PinottiUnicef+ 33'15
128Manuele MoriGazzetta dello Sport+ 33'19
129Dean DowningLipton Ice Tea+ 33'24
130Iván GutiérrezFestina+ 33'44
131Marcel KittelGerolsteiner+ 34'04
132Janek TombakEstonia+ 34'26
133Jonathan BellisAer Lingus+ 34'36
134Sérgio PaulinhoFestina+ 34'50
135Adam BlytheLipton Ice Tea+ 34'53
136Brett LancasterCoca Cola+ 34'59
137Fumiyuki BeppuPetro China+ 35'06
138Frederik WillemsUnicef+ 36'17
139Evgeni PetrovSahin Sucuklari+ 37'22
140Angelo FurlanGazzetta dello Sport+ 37'49
141Matija KvasinaIran Khodro+ 38'05
142Sam BennettAer Lingus+ 38'11
143Timothy DugganCoca Cola+ 38'53
144Simon GerransANZ+ 39'00
145Mikel NieveSahin Sucuklari+ 39'13
146Jérôme PineauLook - Poweo+ 39'14
147Carlos BetancurAmerica Movil+ 39'19
148José RujanoAmerica Movils.t.
149Matthew LloydANZ+ 39'20
150Emanuele SellaSan Pellegrino+ 39'24
151Sylwester SzmydGazzetta dello Sport+ 39'32
152Rémy Di GregorioCredit Agricoles.t.
153Simone StortoniLipton Ice Tea+ 39'37
154Haimar ZubeldiaFestina+ 39'45
155Lucas Sebastián HaedoBonsucro+ 39'47
156Johann TschoppUnicef+ 39'57
157Ángel ViciosoFestina+ 40'33
158Alexsandr DyachenkoSahin Sucuklari+ 40'43
159Oliver ZauggUnicef+ 40'44
160Alexander WetterhallBarclays+ 40'56
161Joshua EdmonsonBarclays+ 41'01
162Alberto LosadaBarclays+ 41'04
163David McCannAer Lingus+ 41'05
164Félix CárdenasAmerica Movil+ 41'12
165Philip DeignanAer Lingus+ 41'13
166Egoi MartínezBonsucro+ 41'40
167Magno Prado NazaretBonsucros.t.
168Jeff LouderRadioshack+ 41'48
169Fabio DuarteAmerica Movil+ 42'06
170Scott ThwaitesBarclays+ 42'25
171Gert JoeaarEstonias.t.
172Matthew BrammeierAer Lingus+ 42'39
173Jürgen Van de WalleProvamel+ 43'15
174Jason McCartneyRadioshack+ 43'46
175Hossein JahabanianIran Khodro+ 46'05
176Kun JiangPetro China+ 47'05
177David De la FuenteFestina+ 48'52
178Valeriy DmitriyevSahin Sucuklari+ 48'57
179Kin San WuPetro China+ 49'25
180Erki PütsepEstonia+ 54'00
181Kalle KriitEstonia+ 57'01
182Sander MaasingEstonia+ 57'56


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Boonen winning the really hard Danish cobble stage, ahead of Voeckler.


That pan flat Danish cobble stage was the real killer. Of the GC names only Voeckler (Cob73), Wiggins/ Schleck (Cob70) are in a position to challenge for the GC.

In the last 20 KM there was the most powerful block headwind in PCM I have ever seen. Chavenel, working for Voeckler, was giving it 100% on the front of the lead group but could not get the speed over 30 km/h, such was the wind! Voeckler is looking good, he even put in a late attack on the flat cobble stage, but couldn't hold off Boonen.
 
nielsboy1998
@ The Rider: That was my first reaction to Grin. Maybe in 2016, because I only have send a request for the Tour de Polonge, and the Canadian Classics, as PCT team.

I'm now in the Tour of Qatar with my team. I have reached a 9th place with Roth in Marseille, and Martin Gilbert (A sprinter with a good hill stat) has won a stage at mallorca Grin. Fenn is my teamleader in Qatar. He has so far 2 top 10 places, and in the TTT I finished 8h (I have simulated the TTT).
Always see the bright Side of life!
 
VegHel17
How do I qualify a continental team to become a pro tour team?
Thanks
 
nielsboy1998
To reach the PCT you have to be in the top 35 of the CQ-ranking. And to reach WT you must to be one of the two best pct/ct teams in the cq-ranking.
Always see the bright Side of life!
 
Jesleyh
Top 40, right? Not Top 35.
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cunego59
With 18 WT and 17 PCT teams in the 2014 DB, 35 is correct Wink

€: Unless the game changes the number of PCT teams to 22 after the first season, I haven't been there yet.
Edited by cunego59 on 08-03-2014 14:36
 
nielsboy1998
I use the PCMDaily's 2014 version, and there I was place 35 and went to PCT. But the places 36-40 not.
Always see the bright Side of life!
 
Jesleyh
Cyclevox Development Team

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So, there are new XMLs out -> New Career.
A development team, build up entirely out of regens, that is.

Went GBR + Ireland at first, but there weren't enough talents to build up a decent team, so I added a few Frenchies.
Lerat will be amazing in the English calendar. But the guy that I'm the most happy with is Ramsay. Just 68SP atm, but amazing potential(potential 8 Shock).
Will end up higher than 80 SP(not 85, but 81/82). Will end up higher than 70HI.
Grin

Cyclevox is a regional sponsor, and I'll be looking for a new sponsor next season.
Edited by Jesleyh on 08-03-2014 19:48
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Ste117
Strange result in my E3 race:

1John DegenkolbTeam Giant - Shimano4h37'21
2Edvald Boasson HagenTeam Skys.t.
3Philippe GilbertBMC Racing Team+ 47
4Ian StannardTeam Skys.t.
5Mark CavendishVodafone Pro Cycling+ 5'51
6Lieuwe WestraAstana Pro Teams.t.
7Paul MartensBelkin Pro Cycling Team+ 6'37
8Jérôme CousinTeam Europcars.t.
9Greg Van AvermaetBMC Racing Team+ 8'44
10Jürgen RoelandtsLotto Belisols.t.
11Sep VanmarckeBelkin Pro Cycling Teams.t.
12Geraint ThomasVodafone Pro Cyclings.t.
13Danny Van PoppelTrek Factory Racings.t.
14Samuel DumoulinAG2R La Mondiales.t.
15Louis VerhelstCofidis, Solutions Créditss.t.
16Eliot LietaerTopsport Vlaanderen - Baloises.t.
17Michael HepburnOrica GreenEdges.t.
18Yury TrofimovTeam Katushas.t.
19Tom SlagterGarmin Sharps.t.
20Alexander KristoffTeam Katushas.t.
21Fabian CancellaraTrek Factory Racings.t.
22Borut BožicAstana Pro Teams.t.
23Thor HushovdBMC Racing Teams.t.
24Maxim IglinskiyAstana Pro Teams.t.
25Lars BoomBelkin Pro Cycling Teams.t.
26Tom BoonenOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
27Luca PaoliniTeam Katushas.t.



A break with Gilbert, Degenkolb and EBH half way through helped by Stannard and Cav.
Edited by Ste117 on 10-03-2014 16:43
MG Team manager Team Ticos Air Costa Rica

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eple
Finally got the game. Can't wait to start a career. Just waiting for Steam to complete.

Before I do, what should I download to make it a good one?

Just downloaded PCMDaily2014DBV1. Any other recommendations?
 
admirschleck
Nah, the 2014DB has everything important for some great gaming and long career. Enjoy the game!
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eple
Alright, then I'm good to go. Cheers! Banana
 
sammyt93
I'd check if it's all in one or if you need the other expansions, then possibly get Kent's new xml's as the ones with the 2014db were creating OP regens.
 
eple
I like it when regens turn out great and take over from the real ones. Developing talents is my main joy in management games. Just as long as it doesn't get silly ofc! I was playing PCM12 with the PCM13 files, so should be as expected.

I'm still at the first day, trying to get my head around all the changes with the scheduling. Is it safe to just trust the default set up and go for it? I have looked over my leaders and it seem pretty well set up for the sponsor goals, but I haven't made sure all domestiques will be fit when it matters.

Oh, and I assume it is still 60 race days when fitness starts dropping?

 
Jesleyh
Default settings are meh, IMO.
And the 60 races thingy is gone in PCM 13 Grin
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eple
Is is just me or did they make season planning even more difficult? Smile

After tearing it all down and trying to build it up again, I gave up, restarted and decided I was just gonna use the default set up with some very minor changes to the leaders. So far it's worked out pretty good, but I think I have a fitness edge on the AI early on, so not sure how the big tours will go. Won TDU with Anton, Paris-Nice with Quintana, finished 5th and got two stage wins in Tirreno-Adriatico with Visconti and got top 5 in Milan-Sanremo.

The game seem easier then PCM12 so I will probably chance to hard difficulty. Just want to see how the first season goes and then I'll start a new career with a custom team.
 
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