Jesleyh wrote:
Not Belkin.
They just fired a doper, why would they sign the most obvious doper to the team now?
You know what I dont like. That people accuse those like Horner (excluding froome) of using drugs to win. Just cause he is old and hasnt ben in form for a while doesnt mean he is incapable of doing well.
And nowadays if someone is using drugs, unless its a team like sky who could bribe not to be caught and publicly accused, then we would know whether or not people are dopers.
You know what I dont like. That people accuse those who accuse those like Horner (excluding froome) of using drugs to win.
Have you only bothered reading why people pick at Horner or do you just turn it into what'd fit your thoughts ?
Whether he uses drugs or not. The chances are. Belkin still wouldnt sign him. I can only hope that they will be successful in Gts similar to their success of the last Tour.
Jesleyh wrote:
Not Belkin.
They just fired a doper, why would they sign the most obvious doper to the team now?
You know what I dont like. That people accuse those like Horner (excluding froome) of using drugs to win. Just cause he is old and hasnt ben in form for a while doesnt mean he is incapable of doing well.
And nowadays if someone is using drugs, unless its a team like sky who could bribe not to be caught and publicly accused, then we would know whether or not people are dopers.
You know what I don't like? When fans of riders use illogical arguments to defend their favourite riders.
The reason everyone is hating on Horner so much is because his the only person in the peloton more obviously on something then Froome. Accusing Froome whilst defending Horner is utterly silly.
issoisso: LLS in negotiations with Movistar
Just when I was starting to quite like Movistar.
Edited by BritPCMFan on 18-10-2013 19:51
I dont like Horner any more than Froome. Lets just say they are equally suspicious. Why cant Anti Doping Agencies just catch everyone who dopes or is that too difficult to do? If thry havent caught people then it means that either tey dont dope or they are using something that is effective and not part of the test.
Luis Leon Sanchez wrote:
...they are using something that is effective and not part of the test.
*dingdingding* we have a winner!
And when they find out what it is theyll just use another one. A big waste of time if you ask me. The Doping Agencies cant clean the sport. Cycling needs to clean itself.
Ag2r-La Mondiale
*Ins:*Â Alexis Gougeard (Veranda Rideau - Super U), Sebastien Turgot (Europcar), Damien Gaudin (Europcar), Patrick Gretsch (Argos-Shimano), Maxime Daniel (Sojasun)
*Outs:*Â John Gadret (Movistar), Valentin Iglinskiy (Astana), Manuel Belletti (Androni - Venezuela)
Belkin
*Ins:*Â Nick van der Lijke (Rabobank Development Team), Barry Markus (Vacansoleil-DCM), Jonathan Hivert (Sojasun)
*Outs:*Â Tom Jelte-Slagter (Garmin-Sharp), Mark Renshaw (Omega Pharma - Quick-Step)
BMC
*Ins:*Â Rick Zabel (Rabobank Development Team), Peter Velits (Omega Pharma - Quick-Step), Peter Stetina (Garmin-Sharp), Darwin Atapuma (Colombia), Ben Hermans (RadioShack-Leopard)
*Outs:*Â Ivan Santaromita (Orica-GreenEDGE), Mathias Frank (IAM Cycling), Marco Pinotti (retiring)
Cannondale
*Ins:*Â Matej Mohoric (Sava), Davide Formolo, Alberto Bettiol, Marco Marcato (Vacansoleil-DCM)
*Outs:*
Euskaltel-Euskadi
*Ins:*
*Outs:*Â Mikel Landa (Astana), Gorka Izagirre (Movistar), Ion Izagirre (Movistar)
Garmin-Sharp
*Ins:*Â Lasse Norman Hansen (Blue Water Cycling), Dylan van Baarle (Rabobank Development Team), Phillip Gaimon (Bissel Cycling), Tom-Jelte Slagter (Belkin), Nathan Brown (Bontrager), Ben King (RadioShack-Leopard), Sebastian Langeveld (Orica-GreenEDGE), Janier Alexis Acevedo (Janis - Hagens Berman)
*Outs:*Â Peter Stetina (BMC Racing), David Zabriskie (retiring), Christian Vande Velde (retiring), Robbie Hunter (retiring), Martijn Maaskant (UnitedHealthcare Presented by Maxxis), Michel Kreder (Wanty - Groupe Gobert)
Katusha
*Ins:*Â Egor Silin (Astana), Alexander Rybakov (Rusvelo), Pavel Kochetkov (Rusvelo)
*Outs:*Â Timofey Kritskiy (Rusvelo)
Lampre-Merida
*Ins:*Â Mauro Richeze (Nippo-De Rosa), Sacha Modolo (Bardiani Valvole-CSF Inox), Rui Costa (Movistar), Rafael Valls (Vacansoleil-DCM), Nelson Oliveira (RadioShack-Leopard), Gang Xu (Champion System)
*Outs:*Â Adriano Malori (Movistar)
Lotto-Belisol
*Ins:*Â Tony Gallopin (RadioShack-Leopard), Kris Boeckmans (Vacansoleil-DCM), Sean De Bie (Leopard-Trek Continental), Sander Armee (Topsport Vlaanderen Baloise), Vegard Breen (Joker - Merida), Maxime Monfort (RadioShack-Leopard), Pim Ligthart (Vacansoleil-DCM), Boris Vallee (Colour Code Biowanze)
*Outs:*Â Vincente Reynes (IAM Cycling), Frederique Robert (Want - Groupe Gobert), Jurgen van de Walle (retiring), Dirk Bellemakers (retiring), Gaetan Bille (Verandas Willems)
Movistar
*Ins:*Â Adriano Malori (Lampre-Merida), Alejandro Marque (OFM - Quinta da Lixa), Jasha Sutterlin (Thuringer Energie Team), Gorka Izagirre (Euskaltel-Euskadi), John Gadret (Ag2r-La Mondiale), Ion Izagirre (Euskaltel-Euskadi)
*Outs:*Â Rui Costa (Lampre-Merida), Angel Madrazo (Caja Rural)
Omega Pharma - Quick-Step
*Ins:*Â Rigoberto Uran (Team Sky), Mark Renshaw (Belkin), Julian Alaphilippe (Etixx-Ihned), Wout Poels (Vacansoleil-DCM), Petr Vakoc (Etixx - Ihned), Jan Bakelants (RadioShack-Leopard), Thomas de Gendt (Vacansoleil-DCM)
*Outs:*Â Peter Velits (BMC), Sylvain Chavanel (IAM Cycling), Jerome Pineau (IAM Cycling), Dries Devenyns (Argos-Shimano), Kristof Vandewalle (Trek)
Orica-GreenEDGE
*Ins:*Â Ivan Santaromita (BMC), Mathew Hayman (Team Sky), Simon Yates, Adam Yates, Damien Howson (Jayco - AIS)
*Outs:*Â Fumiyuki Beppu (Trek), Sebastian Langeveld (Garmin-Sharp), Daniel Teklehaimanot (MTN-Qhubeka)
RadioShack-Leopard / Trek
*Ins:*Â Fumiyuki Beppu (Orica-GreenEDGE), Jasper Stuyven (Bontrager), Frank Schleck (unattached), Fabio Felline (Androni-Giocattoli), Julian Arredondo (Team Nippo - De Rosa), Riccardo Zoidl (Team Gourmetfein -Simplon), Kristof Vandewalle (Omega Pharma - Quick-Step), Jasper Stuyven (Bontrager), Boy van Poppel (Vacansoleil-DCM), Danny van Poppel (Vacansoleil-DCM)
*Outs:*Â Tony Gallopin (Lotto-Belisol), Maxime Monfort (Lotto-Belisol), Ben King (Garmin-Sharp), Nelson Oliveira (Lampre-Merida), Jan Bakelants (Omega Pharma - Quick-Step), Ben Hermans (BMC), Tiago Machado (NetApp-Endura)
Saxo-Tinkoff
*Ins:*Â Michael Valgren (Cult Energy)
*Outs:*Â Jonathan Cantwell (Drapac), Anders Lund (retiring)
Team Sky
*Ins:*Â Nathan Earle (Huon Salmon Genesys Wealth Advisers), Philip Deignan (UnitedHealthcare Presented by Maxxis)
*Outs:*Â Rigoberto Uran (Omega Pharma - Quick-Step), Mathew Hayman (Orica-GreenEDGE)
Vacansoleil-DCM
*Ins:*
*Outs:*Â Kris Boeckmans (Lotto-Belisol), Lieuwe Westra (Astana), Barry Markus (Belkin), Wout Poels (Omega Pharma - Quick-Step), Pim Ligthart (Lotto-Belisol), Rafael Valls (Lampre-Merida), Sergey Lagutin (Rusvelo), Frederik Veuchelen (Wanty - Groupe Gobert), Boy van Poppel (Trek), Danny van Poppel (Trek), Thomas de Gendt (Omega Pharma - Quick-Step), Juan Antonio Flecha (retiring), Romain Feillu (Bretagne - Seche Environement), Bjorn Leukemans (Wanty - Groupe Gobert), Wesley Kreder (Wanty - Groupe Gobert), Mirko Selvaggi (Wanty - Groupe Gobert), Marco Marcato (Cannondale)
Just when I was starting to quite like Movistar.
