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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 13-08-2009 23:24
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Kessiakoff and specialy Fuglsang are intresting names..
Gesink will be great..
I still dont believe that Schleck brothers is there like tourists
Gerdemann is racing... (at least he was smart enough do not take team nr 1)
I hope that Basso will beat Kreuziger with mile..then Roman can shut up..
Go Cunego
Euskatel has great list..Anton is my name to follow..
Let Vino ride
Ag2r dont but Mandri to that list..he isnt ready..(they did that year ago ..on Giro..and result ..no Mandri for rest of the season)
And ofcorse go Taaramäe..top 20 is enough
Edited by Guido Mukk on 13-08-2009 23:29
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| Wyman |
Posted on 13-08-2009 23:35
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Haha thats the spirit Guido 
I will convert you into a Cunego fan xD
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 13-08-2009 23:38
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Garmin looks like it has a pretty strong squad. Much more oriented towards climbers than the Tour was. Hopefully Cozza is called up at the last minute. He was supposed to get a crack at a GT this year.
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| chrica04 |
Posted on 14-08-2009 02:26
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Cozza has done a great job this year, always going for breaks. |
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| Inferio |
Posted on 14-08-2009 07:25
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Guido Mukk wrote:
I hope that Basso will beat Kreuziger with mile..then Roman can shut up..
Heeeyy...why he should shut up?
BTW he is there as helper for Basso... |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-08-2009 09:08
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Inferio wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
I hope that Basso will beat Kreuziger with mile..then Roman can shut up..
Heeeyy...why he should shut up?
BTW he is there as helper for Basso...
Because he agreed to the season planning, and later he mouthed off several times about the season planning.
Not to mention he has the unfortunate tendency to complain to the media about teammates because he thinks those teammates might do certain things.
(Which is quite stupid, by the way. What's the sense in complaining that someone might do something? That's like me saying that X is a bad person because one day he might insult me)
He's been quite the jackass so far this season. Guido is right, he should shut up, behave, and learn to be a decent person.
Edited by issoisso on 14-08-2009 09:10
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 14-08-2009 09:20
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Isso sayed it all..young guy like him should not talk like this with media about he's team mate. Who is by the way clean at the moment and still better rider then him..
I respect Nibali..Kreuziger and Pellizotti (he has a reason) have ego problems
Edited by Guido Mukk on 14-08-2009 09:22
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| Inferio |
Posted on 14-08-2009 09:36
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issoisso wrote:
Inferio wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
I hope that Basso will beat Kreuziger with mile..then Roman can shut up..
Heeeyy...why he should shut up?
BTW he is there as helper for Basso...
Because he agreed to the season planning, and later he mouthed off several times about the season planning.
Not to mention he has the unfortunate tendency to complain to the media about teammates because he thinks those teammates might do certain things.
(Which is quite stupid, by the way. What's the sense in complaining that someone might do something? That's like me saying that X is a bad person because one day he might insult me)
He's been quite the jackass so far this season. Guido is right, he should shut up, behave, and learn to be a decent person.
As I'm Czech I still have to be on side of our national hero  |
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| ruben |
Posted on 14-08-2009 11:05
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Kreuziger is probably just pissed because Nibali made a huge jump and is now suddenly a better climber and gc-rider than him. Basso comes and is also better, and Pellizotti (3rd in Giro, Kreuziger never did such a gt) is also better.
He probably is scared of becoming an eternal helper and starts fights to get out |
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| mrlol |
Posted on 14-08-2009 11:26
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Kramer bekritiseert Rabobank
Van onze Telesportredactie
AMSTERDAM - Wereldkampioen schaatsen Sven Kramer heeft tijdens zijn trainingskamp in Sankt Moritz vreemd opgekeken hoe Robert Gesink zich daar moest voorbereiden op de Vuelta a Espana. De Nederlandse klimmer is in de derde grote ronde kopman van de Rabobank-formatie. Na zijn val in de Tour zat hij de afgelopen weken op hoogte in Zwitserland.
"Die jongen moest bij ons in het hotel naar het wellness center om een massage te krijgen. En dat is dan de kopman van een ploeg met een budget van vijftien miljoen euro", aldus Kramer in De Pers. "Gesink zat in zijn eentje in een hotel. Er was alleen een paar dagen een trainer bij. Geen mecanicien, geen masseur, geen Breukink te bekennen. Ik vroeg aan die trainer: hoeveel fysio's hebben jullie in dienst? Hij: zes. En die zijn alle zes met belangrijkere dingen bezig dan de kopman van de Vuelta - die ook nog eens in eigen land start - te begeleiden? Kom nou, zeg. Weet je, soms is het geen spelletje. Moet je gewoon met je vuist op tafel slaan."
source: www.telegraaf.nl
In short: Best Dutch(and probably internationally as well) ice speed skater Sven Kramer was in Sankt Moritz for a trainingscapm, just like Gesink was in preparation of the Vuelta. He saw Gesink had to go to the Wellness center for a massage, while it's a teamleader for a team with over 15 million euro's.
Gesink was alone except for a few days when there was a trainer. Kramer asked that trainer how many physio therapists they have; 6. And not even one is available for the Vuelta leader...
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I agree... how can they let Gesink prepare on his own? With the Vuelta starting in Holland and a bad TdF, pressure for results is high... |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-08-2009 12:35
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Saxo and Cervélo have announced their squads. The Saxo squad is exactly what Kim Andersen said it would be 3 weeks ago.
On a related note: When will the ignore function be ready? I need to "mute" A_Schleck before the Vuelta starts
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| Inferio |
Posted on 14-08-2009 13:01
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mrlol wrote:
In short: Best Dutch(and probably internationally as well) ice speed skater Sven Kramer was in Sankt Moritz for a trainingscapm, just like Gesink was in preparation of the Vuelta. He saw Gesink had to go to the Wellness center for a massage, while it's a teamleader for a team with over 15 million euro's.
Gesink was alone except for a few days when there was a trainer. Kramer asked that trainer how many physio therapists they have; 6. And not even one is available for the Vuelta leader...
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I agree... how can they let Gesink prepare on his own? With the Vuelta starting in Holland and a bad TdF, pressure for results is high...
Finally a translation....I read it about 3 days ago on Gesink's twitter and didn't understand the Dutch a who Kramer is |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 16-08-2009 22:15
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Horner wants "A top 5 or a top 10"
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 16-08-2009 22:21
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I would say why not..he had great Giro start ..he was shown new quality there..(shortly though)..
Did not take TdF..why not.
Cycling is gonna be more and more.."Rider can take one GT with full gas"
Edited by Guido Mukk on 16-08-2009 22:22
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| Andreas93 |
Posted on 16-08-2009 23:14
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mrlol wrote:
Kramer bekritiseert Rabobank
Van onze Telesportredactie
AMSTERDAM - Wereldkampioen schaatsen Sven Kramer heeft tijdens zijn trainingskamp in Sankt Moritz vreemd opgekeken hoe Robert Gesink zich daar moest voorbereiden op de Vuelta a Espana. De Nederlandse klimmer is in de derde grote ronde kopman van de Rabobank-formatie. Na zijn val in de Tour zat hij de afgelopen weken op hoogte in Zwitserland.
"Die jongen moest bij ons in het hotel naar het wellness center om een massage te krijgen. En dat is dan de kopman van een ploeg met een budget van vijftien miljoen euro", aldus Kramer in De Pers. "Gesink zat in zijn eentje in een hotel. Er was alleen een paar dagen een trainer bij. Geen mecanicien, geen masseur, geen Breukink te bekennen. Ik vroeg aan die trainer: hoeveel fysio's hebben jullie in dienst? Hij: zes. En die zijn alle zes met belangrijkere dingen bezig dan de kopman van de Vuelta - die ook nog eens in eigen land start - te begeleiden? Kom nou, zeg. Weet je, soms is het geen spelletje. Moet je gewoon met je vuist op tafel slaan."
source: www.telegraaf.nl
In short: Best Dutch(and probably internationally as well) ice speed skater Sven Kramer was in Sankt Moritz for a trainingscapm, just like Gesink was in preparation of the Vuelta. He saw Gesink had to go to the Wellness center for a massage, while it's a teamleader for a team with over 15 million euro's.
Gesink was alone except for a few days when there was a trainer. Kramer asked that trainer how many physio therapists they have; 6. And not even one is available for the Vuelta leader...
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I agree... how can they let Gesink prepare on his own? With the Vuelta starting in Holland and a bad TdF, pressure for results is high...
Hmm, does not Rabobank has a history with bold GT-riders who prepare at their own?
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 16-08-2009 23:52
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Andreas93 wrote:
Hmm, does not Rabobank has a history with bold GT-riders who prepare at their own?
Yeah now you mention it...
THE THOMAS VOECKLER PROPHET OF PCM DAILY
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| maynard |
Posted on 18-08-2009 10:18
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Waghlon wrote:
Andreas93 wrote:
Hmm, does not Rabobank has a history with bold GT-riders who prepare at their own?
Yeah now you mention it...
Gesink was there with his personal trainer... He explained that his trip was rushed in after his unfortunate departure from TdF, so that's why the soigneurs where all occupied elsewhere. He's very open about his position and choices and where-about, so this comparison with a certain Rasmussen-guy is rather tasteless.
I expect a great race by Robert, with a course that should suit him very well
Edited by maynard on 18-08-2009 10:19
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 18-08-2009 10:29
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OT: Andreas, isn't it time to change the signature
Because hushovd didn't win on the champs, i was there, it was Cavendish
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 19-08-2009 12:04
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Weylandt angry over Vuelta a España non-selection..
Davis took he's place..to be back up sprinter for mr. Boonen..who isnt happy and fast without a cocaine..
Dont know about Weylandt..but Davis deserves that place.. |
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 19-08-2009 14:31
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The main reason Weylandt is angry is because first, he was promised he was gonna ride Paris-Nice and the Giro, but then that didn't happend, then he focused on getting to ride the Vuelta.
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