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| jim1996 |
Posted on 10-06-2009 14:01
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I think that armstrong didnt dope because:
1) armstrong had bigger heart.
2)He had cancer and lost weight.
3)While he had cancer he maybe took some medicine to help him "leave" cancer,and at the same time helped him get stronger
4)He was prepairing 365 days the tdf.Something that i dont think any other rider did.
And as far as i know he is riding for livestrong,for cancer,and not very much for an eight win.So i dont believe he is doping.
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Posted on 10-06-2009 14:02
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Look how much money armstrong has probably made for himself and im sure he would help a friend if needed. Anywho george is not as good a climber as he was in the tour a few years back. I wonder why that is?? |
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| kida |
Posted on 10-06-2009 14:04
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Anywho george is not as good a climber as he was in the tour a few years back. I wonder why that is??
Well maybe when Lance retired, George stopped training so hard  |
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Posted on 10-06-2009 14:06
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Ok you are definelty making alot of sense. NOT. Quite clearly he was bigged up as a gc contender when Lance retired. |
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Posted on 10-06-2009 14:09
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Ok you are definelty making alot of sense. NOT. Quite clearly he was bigged up as a gc contender when Lance retired.
Yeah 'cos people who are "bigged up" by themselves or others always reach the goal(s) set, if that really was the case Cunego would've won the Giro this year, probably last year and the year before that plus a few Tour De France's too. |
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Posted on 10-06-2009 14:12
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But dont you understand what people where saying about cunego when he has turned poor. "He is not on anything anymore" Maybe you just have wool pulled over your eyes but cycling is not clean not in the slightest. Please explain how someone could ride up a mountain extremely fast when he has already been riding for 5/6 and even 7 hours. Im afriad there would be bigger time gaps like in the early ere of cycling. |
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| kida |
Posted on 10-06-2009 14:16
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They're all on something be it the hard stuff or the soft stuff, i think it was Ruben who said it a few years ago can't remember which forum but it was something like this: "I wouldn't put my hands in the fire for any of them" and that's spot on, cos you'd say Johnny Pedal isn't a doper he'd never dope, next thing you know he's busted for doping. |
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Posted on 10-06-2009 14:23
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I couldnt care less but you seem to think nobody is on drugs as you are obvioulsy blind as it is a huge problem and you are the sort of people who say how stupid is he for doping at poeple who are caught when they are clearly only one of lots who dope. Anyway you are boring me know with your pointless comments and obvioulsy needed to look at cycling in general if you think everyone is clean. |
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| kida |
Posted on 10-06-2009 14:25
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hmm i know i'm still a little wasted from last night, but where did i say they're all clean? I'll write the next part in capitals...EVEN MY FAVOURITE RIDER CONTADOR IS ON THE CANDIES |
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Posted on 10-06-2009 14:29
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So why are you defending armstrong when he is on the same team as contador and if he is on the Candies as ypou claim why would armstrong not be especially after finishing 12th in the giro after years out |
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| kida |
Posted on 10-06-2009 14:33
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Where have i defended Armstrong(I don't like Armstrong and no it's not an anti-American thing)? Anyway i'm sure there's a doping thread, this(our little debate) isn't exactly news is it? |
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Posted on 10-06-2009 14:35
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jim1996 wrote:
I think that armstrong didnt dope because:
1) armstrong had bigger heart.
2)He had cancer and lost weight.
3)While he had cancer he maybe took some medicine to help him "leave" cancer,and at the same time helped him get stronger
4)He was prepairing 365 days the tdf.Something that i dont think any other rider did.
And as far as i know he is riding for livestrong,for cancer,and not very much for an eight win.So i dont believe he is doping.
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| Xavier |
Posted on 10-06-2009 16:07
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https://www.velone...icle/93107
& The UCI today gave Astana's Andreas Kloden the green light for riding in the Tour
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 11-06-2009 12:48
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I'm getting so annoyed of this Cycling News forum. For god's sake, it's amazingly boring. Kind of Thread 1: Dopestrong again, Thread 2: We love Armstrong, Thread 3: Lemond against Armstrong, Thread 4: Armstrong against Simeoni. But well, actually I do prefer those titles, because you can simply not read the discusion, while there are some morons who put something like "It has happened again", and you, naive, go there, just to find it is a brand new forum for/against Armstrong.
Not to talk about the discusion's level. The naives, who think that there is not doping at all in cycling or, even worse, the geeks about conspiracy theories: If Kohl talks about doping, he is absolutely right; if then he says that perhaps it wasn't so true that the entire peloton is doping, he was threated of death. Actually, there is an even worse category: the same ones about conspiracy theories but who blatantly exclude Lemond from any possible doping. Because, almost textually, "he could win a GT against a doped peloton, while every other GT winner in history can't".
Edited by Ildabaoth on 11-06-2009 13:10
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 11-06-2009 13:07
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sry. mate ..that is impossible to avoid..all thread's has doping and now 2009 also Armstrong subject |
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| Xavier |
Posted on 11-06-2009 13:08
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I concur  (with Ildabaoth)
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 11-06-2009 13:11
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It's a part of the cycling world, and we in the cycling world has decided that we want to do something about the problem. We could have done like FIFA and silence it and avoid taking tests.
Therefore, it's only natural that it's being discussed, although I agree that it's too much sometimes. |
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| Xavier |
Posted on 11-06-2009 13:14
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It's not annoying that its being discussed, its annoying that its kinda the same discussion in every topic :-)
@News in June: McEwen signed the anti-doping charter;
"I have now signed the new anti-doping charter of Team Katusha after receiving advice on legal implications, pros & cons. 100% drug free!" |
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 11-06-2009 13:46
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I'm not against discusion and I dislike doping too. I'd like to see a clean peloton. But if the debates are reduced to arguments like "Everybody is a dopehead, so cycling is doomed", "Everybody is a dopehead, so it's fair", "Everybody dopes except *insert favorite rider*" or "Nobody dopes", that isn't an intelligent debate but just a dogmatic blatant noise.
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 11-06-2009 13:53
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Ildabaoth wrote:
I'm not against discusion and I dislike doping too. I'd like to see a clean peloton. But if the debates are reduced to arguments like "Everybody is a dopehead, so cycling is doomed", "Everybody is a dopehead, so it's fair", "Everybody dopes except *insert favorite rider*" or "Nobody dopes", that isn't an intelligent debate but just a dogmatic blatant noise.
If it helping. When tour or other big race start..I forget all the problems and will follow great sport.
In that matter Armstrong is hardest problem to crack..he is racing.
..and press-media-tv--just need to show him after every 3 minut..
So ..conclusion. This is gonna be hardest tour for me. All my energy go's for hope that Astana wont win..even if Contador wins (who realy deserves it)..then Bruyneel-Armstrong will say..that this was all planned in January. |
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