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Vuelta al País Vasco/Euskal Herriko Itzulia/Tour of the Basque Country
Ivan_Basso_Fan
issoisso wrote:
Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
Leipheimer who probably is the best TT'er in the world right now


uhh....no.

Well, with current shape he is Wink He won the TT in California (very good field), and he won it too in Castilla y Leon. Who is better right now then? Zabriskie? Cancellara? Grabsch? Anyone else? Nah, don't think so...in that case please come up with someone better?

Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
So, imo Contador is definitely the best climber and stage racer right now


Your idol.

Nope, Contador is definitely not my idol. Never been, as I have never liked the teams he is riding for. Well, as the same as Leipheimer, who is a better climber than Contador right now? Honestly? Sure, he had a bad day in P-N, but it wasn't uphill he lost that race.
Stage racer can be discussed of course, but that's my opinion. Leipheimer would be a good contender though. I look at it in a realistic view Wink
 
Ivan_Basso_Fan
Juan wrote:
kessiakoff 9th

Really nice Grin

And in Tirreno-Adriatico he showed he can TT quite ok too Smile
 
CrueTrue
Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
Leipheimer who probably is the best TT'er in the world right now


uhh....no.

Well, with current shape he is Wink He won the TT in California (very good field), and he won it too in Castilla y Leon. Who is better right now then? Zabriskie? Cancellara? Grabsch? Anyone else? Nah, don't think so...in that case please come up with someone better?

Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
So, imo Contador is definitely the best climber and stage racer right now


Your idol.

Nope, Contador is definitely not my idol. Never been, as I have never liked the teams he is riding for. Well, as the same as Leipheimer, who is a better climber than Contador right now? Honestly? Sure, he had a bad day in P-N, but it wasn't uphill he lost that race.
Stage racer can be discussed of course, but that's my opinion. Leipheimer would be a good contender though. I look at it in a realistic view Wink


Duh, he meant Ivan Basso (= Basso is a better stage racer than Contador) Pfft
Edited by CrueTrue on 08-04-2009 16:23
 
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issoisso
CrueTrue wrote:
Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
Leipheimer who probably is the best TT'er in the world right now


uhh....no.

Well, with current shape he is Wink He won the TT in California (very good field), and he won it too in Castilla y Leon. Who is better right now then? Zabriskie? Cancellara? Grabsch? Anyone else? Nah, don't think so...in that case please come up with someone better?

Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
So, imo Contador is definitely the best climber and stage racer right now


Your idol.

Nope, Contador is definitely not my idol. Never been, as I have never liked the teams he is riding for. Well, as the same as Leipheimer, who is a better climber than Contador right now? Honestly? Sure, he had a bad day in P-N, but it wasn't uphill he lost that race.
Stage racer can be discussed of course, but that's my opinion. Leipheimer would be a good contender though. I look at it in a realistic view Wink


Duh, he meant Ivan Basso (= Basso is a better stage racer than Contador) Pfft


Duh indeed Pfft
 
lagetcher
It's good to see that Cyclingnews don't have another stupid headline for stage 3. For stage 2 it was "Little rider achieves a big victory." How patronising is that?
 
issoisso
lagetcher wrote:
It's good to see that Cyclingnews don't have another stupid headline for stage 3. For stage 2 it was "Little rider achieves a big victory." How patronising is that?


It's because Trofimov said "I'm not fighting for the overall, I'm just a little rider"
 
lagetcher
I know, but I still think they could have found a more appropriate headline.
 
Ivan_Basso_Fan
CrueTrue wrote:
Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
Leipheimer who probably is the best TT'er in the world right now


uhh....no.

Well, with current shape he is Wink He won the TT in California (very good field), and he won it too in Castilla y Leon. Who is better right now then? Zabriskie? Cancellara? Grabsch? Anyone else? Nah, don't think so...in that case please come up with someone better?

Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
So, imo Contador is definitely the best climber and stage racer right now


Your idol.

Nope, Contador is definitely not my idol. Never been, as I have never liked the teams he is riding for. Well, as the same as Leipheimer, who is a better climber than Contador right now? Honestly? Sure, he had a bad day in P-N, but it wasn't uphill he lost that race.
Stage racer can be discussed of course, but that's my opinion. Leipheimer would be a good contender though. I look at it in a realistic view Wink


Duh, he meant Ivan Basso (= Basso is a better stage racer than Contador) Pfft

Haha, ok my bad Pfft

Well, Basso is probably still one of the best stage racers. But, I think he isn't as good in TT yet as he was back in 2006 (for known reasons)...His climbing seems to be really good still though. Well, maybe he is better than Contador in total, but I'm not sure. The Giro will most likely give as un answer on that Wink
 
issoisso
Well, I don't see anything wrong with it.
 
YtimK
Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
Leipheimer who probably is the best TT'er in the world right now


uhh....no.

Well, with current shape he is Wink He won the TT in California (very good field), and he won it too in Castilla y Leon. Who is better right now then? Zabriskie? Cancellara? Grabsch? Anyone else? Nah, don't think so...in that case please come up with someone better?

Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
So, imo Contador is definitely the best climber and stage racer right now


Your idol.

Nope, Contador is definitely not my idol. Never been, as I have never liked the teams he is riding for. Well, as the same as Leipheimer, who is a better climber than Contador right now? Honestly? Sure, he had a bad day in P-N, but it wasn't uphill he lost that race.
Stage racer can be discussed of course, but that's my opinion. Leipheimer would be a good contender though. I look at it in a realistic view Wink


Duh, he meant Ivan Basso (= Basso is a better stage racer than Contador) Pfft

Haha, ok my bad Pfft

Well, Basso is probably still one of the best stage racers. But, I think he isn't as good in TT yet as he was back in 2006 (for known reasons)...His climbing seems to be really good still though. Well, maybe he is better than Contador in total, but I'm not sure. The Giro will most likely give as un answer on that Wink

or not. Contador isnt participating Pfft
 
Juan
YtimK wrote:
Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
Leipheimer who probably is the best TT'er in the world right now


uhh....no.

Well, with current shape he is Wink He won the TT in California (very good field), and he won it too in Castilla y Leon. Who is better right now then? Zabriskie? Cancellara? Grabsch? Anyone else? Nah, don't think so...in that case please come up with someone better?

Ivan_Basso_Fan wrote:
So, imo Contador is definitely the best climber and stage racer right now


Your idol.

Nope, Contador is definitely not my idol. Never been, as I have never liked the teams he is riding for. Well, as the same as Leipheimer, who is a better climber than Contador right now? Honestly? Sure, he had a bad day in P-N, but it wasn't uphill he lost that race.
Stage racer can be discussed of course, but that's my opinion. Leipheimer would be a good contender though. I look at it in a realistic view Wink


Duh, he meant Ivan Basso (= Basso is a better stage racer than Contador) Pfft

Haha, ok my bad Pfft

Well, Basso is probably still one of the best stage racers. But, I think he isn't as good in TT yet as he was back in 2006 (for known reasons)...His climbing seems to be really good still though. Well, maybe he is better than Contador in total, but I'm not sure. The Giro will most likely give as un answer on that Wink

or not. Contador isnt participating Pfft

an answer on Basso's skills and form Wink
 
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ruben
Hmm Gesink 6th after a 4km climb, that was a slight suprise. I thought he lacked explosivity for this kind of thing. But he blew up later than F.Schleck Shock
 
knasen
cyclingnews "The morning's leader Luis Leon Sanchez (Caisse d'Epargne), winner of Paris-Roubaix at Contador's expense, had been tied on time with Contador but conceded the leader's jersey thanks to the Astana rider's solo escape."

And how great is int Fredrik Kessiakoff with his 8th place. He can be the new KoM winner of the Giro if Fuji-Servetto get a place there.
 
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Juan
knasen wrote:
cyclingnews "The morning's leader Luis Leon Sanchez (Caisse d'Epargne), winner of Paris-Roubaix at Contador's expense, had been tied on time with Contador but conceded the leader's jersey thanks to the Astana rider's solo escape."

And how great is int Fredrik Kessiakoff with his 8th place. He can be the new KoM winner of the Giro if Fuji-Servetto get a place there.

actually 9th, cyclingnews forgot LL Sanchez Rolling Eyes
 
schleck93
My "always bet on Samu in this becuase he's gonna win at somepoint" strategy isn't going to well Pfft
BenBarnes wrote:
Thor wears a live rattlesnake as a condom.
 
CrueTrue
Can I point out that Jakob Fuglsang was the best Saxo Bank rider today? Better than A. Schleck and F. Schleck. He'll be great once we reach the Giro!
 
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schleck93
Yes you can point that out CT Wink
BenBarnes wrote:
Thor wears a live rattlesnake as a condom.
 
Inferio
Ruben wrote:
Hmm Gesink 6th after a 4km climb, that was a slight suprise. I thought he lacked explosivity for this kind of thing. But he blew up later than F.Schleck Shock


I don't think he lacks explosivity, last year he was 4th in La Flèche Wallonne in the same time as 3rd Cunego...
 
Bosskardo
Rein Taaramäe gained another 3 mountain points today, now 6 points behind Aitor Hernández. Still a lot of points on offer for the next two stages so lets hope Rein gets the KoM jersey.
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ruben
Inferio wrote:
Ruben wrote:
Hmm Gesink 6th after a 4km climb, that was a slight suprise. I thought he lacked explosivity for this kind of thing. But he blew up later than F.Schleck Shock


I don't think he lacks explosivity, last year he was 4th in La Flèche Wallonne in the same time as 3rd Cunego...

Fleche Wallone has nothing to do with explosivity, or better said, the Muur de Huy doesn't have anything to do with explosivity.
 
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