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| YtimK |
Posted on 08-10-2008 13:13
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Ruben wrote:
As a wise man once said on the PPDB forums:
ALL CYCLISTS ARE BROTHERS
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 08-10-2008 13:19
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yea right .....................
B)
thats why they support each other in using Doping 
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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| Crommy |
Posted on 08-10-2008 14:32
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Good news - CERA tests are going to be used on samples from the Olympics, not just cycling.
5,000 tests for CERA. Hopefully, we'll have lots of positives so the IOC finally realises that doping in cycling is only prominent because this is the only sport that actually tests properly for it
https://news.bbc.c...658852.stm
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Posted on 08-10-2008 14:34
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great news
I am the king.
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| rodda |
Posted on 08-10-2008 14:40
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in fact better then great news
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 08-10-2008 15:58
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who will get caught?...
i bet Bolt will be one of them 
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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| Hidden |
Posted on 08-10-2008 16:04
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Given the Olympics occurred a month after the first positive CERA test was known isn't it highly unlikely that any prominent medalist will still have been on a dose that is likely to give a positive test?
Retesting Euro 2008 samples for CERA however would be much more interesting, given that the tournament had just finished before the first positive test.
For the same reasons you'd have to assume Giro retests would be far more likely to catch doped riders than Vuelta retests if they ever happen. |
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 08-10-2008 16:40
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Hidden wrote:
Given the Olympics occurred a month after the first positive CERA test was known isn't it highly unlikely that any prominent medalist will still have been on a dose that is likely to give a positive test?
Retesting Euro 2008 samples for CERA however would be much more interesting, given that the tournament had just finished before the first positive test.
For the same reasons you'd have to assume Giro retests would be far more likely to catch doped riders than Vuelta retests if they ever happen.
they've caught Sella 
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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| Crommy |
Posted on 08-10-2008 16:42
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Hidden wrote:
Given the Olympics occurred a month after the first positive CERA test was known isn't it highly unlikely that any prominent medalist will still have been on a dose that is likely to give a positive test?
Retesting Euro 2008 samples for CERA however would be much more interesting, given that the tournament had just finished before the first positive test.
For the same reasons you'd have to assume Giro retests would be far more likely to catch doped riders than Vuelta retests if they ever happen.
This is a good start.
Hopefully, it will catch enough athletes that they will start re-testing for other sports like Euro 2008
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| Dankan |
Posted on 08-10-2008 16:46
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This is really great news for cycling indeed. |
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| ponka00 |
Posted on 08-10-2008 16:47
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Stijn_vranken wrote:
Hidden wrote:
Given the Olympics occurred a month after the first positive CERA test was known isn't it highly unlikely that any prominent medalist will still have been on a dose that is likely to give a positive test?
Retesting Euro 2008 samples for CERA however would be much more interesting, given that the tournament had just finished before the first positive test.
For the same reasons you'd have to assume Giro retests would be far more likely to catch doped riders than Vuelta retests if they ever happen.
they've caught Sella
Wasn't that an outside of competition test? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-10-2008 16:47
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Wanna bet they continue to throw the tennis and football positives under the rug and pretend they never happened?
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| jacknic |
Posted on 08-10-2008 16:52
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Stijn_vranken wrote:
who will get caught?...
i bet Bolt will be one of them
How will CERA benefit a 100/200 m. sprinter? Is it not an endurance drug? |
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 08-10-2008 16:53
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ponka00 wrote:
Stijn_vranken wrote:
Hidden wrote:
Given the Olympics occurred a month after the first positive CERA test was known isn't it highly unlikely that any prominent medalist will still have been on a dose that is likely to give a positive test?
Retesting Euro 2008 samples for CERA however would be much more interesting, given that the tournament had just finished before the first positive test.
For the same reasons you'd have to assume Giro retests would be far more likely to catch doped riders than Vuelta retests if they ever happen.
they've caught Sella
Wasn't that an outside of competition test?
nope in the belgian newspaper , it was at the giro a couple of times...
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-10-2008 17:00
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The newspaper is wrong then. It was at an out of competition test in June, and it was announced in August. |
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| niconico |
Posted on 08-10-2008 17:49
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issoisso wrote:
A_Schleck wrote:
After all of this I have severe difficulties saying any riders are clean. When a guy like Sastre is suddenly under suspicion I start losing faith, because he is a guy who you would really think would stay away from illegal substances after the JM Jimenez tragedy. I still don't believe Sastre is doped, but with all the on-going talks I can't somehow deny him being that. And if Sastre is doped, everyone's doped!
This is the major problem with cycling fans. They ignore all facts and are simply mindless emotional cronies.
Get a grip man, look at the facts. For the three millionth time, personality HAS FUCK ALL TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT YOU DOPE.
jesus...
For years these people go on "I love this and that rider. He's not doped, just because I love him. And if he's doped then everyone else is doped, because he is the most innocent human being ever. Why is he? Because I love him, that's all."
Never any facts, never any logic, just mindless emotions.
Think people, THINK
I know it's biased alright, but gotta hand it to me. Sastre is not a guy you think would dope, not before this year's Tour de France that is, as someone in here apparently thinks it is impossible to be a Grand Tour contender without doping. You have to admit that his past with losing his brother-in-law, who he had a great relationship, to doping should make him one of the riders who would stay clear. Then again, you might just say that was an alibi for him.
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| t-baum |
Posted on 08-10-2008 18:27
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A_Schleck wrote:
issoisso wrote:
A_Schleck wrote:
After all of this I have severe difficulties saying any riders are clean. When a guy like Sastre is suddenly under suspicion I start losing faith, because he is a guy who you would really think would stay away from illegal substances after the JM Jimenez tragedy. I still don't believe Sastre is doped, but with all the on-going talks I can't somehow deny him being that. And if Sastre is doped, everyone's doped!
This is the major problem with cycling fans. They ignore all facts and are simply mindless emotional cronies.
Get a grip man, look at the facts. For the three millionth time, personality HAS FUCK ALL TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT YOU DOPE.
jesus...
For years these people go on "I love this and that rider. He's not doped, just because I love him. And if he's doped then everyone else is doped, because he is the most innocent human being ever. Why is he? Because I love him, that's all."
Never any facts, never any logic, just mindless emotions.
Think people, THINK
I know it's biased alright, but gotta hand it to me. Sastre is not a guy you think would dope, not before this year's Tour de France that is, as someone in here apparently thinks it is impossible to be a Grand Tour contender without doping. You have to admit that his past with losing his brother-in-law, who he had a great relationship, to doping should make him one of the riders who would stay clear. Then again, you might just say that was an alibi for him.
All that doesn't matter.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race." |
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 08-10-2008 18:33
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He used to race for Saiz at Once, and the fact that Jimenez was doping just makes it more clear that Sastre is it aswell.
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| jacknic |
Posted on 08-10-2008 19:43
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schleck93 wrote:
He used to race for Saiz at Once, and the fact that Jimenez was doping just makes it more clear that Sastre is it aswell.
Is this called causality or determinism or both? Either way it is broken logic...
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 08-10-2008 20:09
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AFLD is now saying that the riders who are being re-tested are the same riders as the ones who received the famous "your values are abnormal"-letter just before the Tour = no CSC riders.
Also, Rasmus Damsgaard has said that he'd have seen CERA in the tests if the CSC riders had used it.
In other related news, AFLD also says that they will soon be allowed to use a new test for blood doping, and that they have a number of riders under suspicion. He even says that they have a large amount of evidence on blood transfusions.
For the same reason, we'll soon see more positive tests, he says.
And since this thread is about Schumacher: Lefevere said yesterday that he'd rip the contract into pieces at 12:00 if he had not heard anything from Schumacher. But today, he's still not fired. Schumacher still claims that he hasn't heard anything from official people yet. |
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